Human trafficking often hides in plain sight. In this conversation, Katelyn Campbell from the Joy Smith Foundation shares how emotional pain, shame, and the longing for love can make people vulnerable to manipulation and exploitation. With Tim and Andy, she explores how traffickers use trust and affection to control, what warning signs to look for, and how awareness and compassion can help protect others and bring hope to those healing from it.

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00:00 – Katelyn’s Story: From a Good Childhood to Hidden Wounds
13:00 – Emotional Abuse and Vulnerability
44:00 – Understanding Human Trafficking
57:00 – Warning Signs and Prevention
1:27:00 – Healing, Hope, and Taking Action

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