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What happens when the fear of being hurt makes leaving feel safer than staying? This week, we dive deep into Brian and Bethany's journey as Brian shares a distressing dream and a painful childhood memory that reveal the roots of his mistrust and his instinct to detach when he feels trapped.
We explore how Brian's nervous system drives him to make empty threats to leave, leaving Bethany hurt and confused, while underneath, his fear of abandonment and betrayal runs deep. This session highlights how these reactive moments aren't attempts to hurt each other, but survival strategies masking vulnerabilities that need healing.
This episode is a powerful reminder that the fears and wounds beneath conflict don't create new problems—they expose the ones already there. The central challenge becomes clear: can Brian and Bethany learn to turn toward each other's fear, instead of letting it drive them apart?
This week's prompt: Reflect on a time when fear made you want to pull away from your partner. What was the deeper need or vulnerability underneath that fear?
Send your responses to this prompt or any questions or comments about the podcast via email or voice note to [email protected]. Your submission might be featured on a future episode.
By Julie Menanno4.9
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What happens when the fear of being hurt makes leaving feel safer than staying? This week, we dive deep into Brian and Bethany's journey as Brian shares a distressing dream and a painful childhood memory that reveal the roots of his mistrust and his instinct to detach when he feels trapped.
We explore how Brian's nervous system drives him to make empty threats to leave, leaving Bethany hurt and confused, while underneath, his fear of abandonment and betrayal runs deep. This session highlights how these reactive moments aren't attempts to hurt each other, but survival strategies masking vulnerabilities that need healing.
This episode is a powerful reminder that the fears and wounds beneath conflict don't create new problems—they expose the ones already there. The central challenge becomes clear: can Brian and Bethany learn to turn toward each other's fear, instead of letting it drive them apart?
This week's prompt: Reflect on a time when fear made you want to pull away from your partner. What was the deeper need or vulnerability underneath that fear?
Send your responses to this prompt or any questions or comments about the podcast via email or voice note to [email protected]. Your submission might be featured on a future episode.

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