After Kelly’s conversation with sleep expert Dr. Michael J. Breus, she and Chip break down the biggest takeaways from his approach—and how they’ve already started applying them to their own sleep.

They get into the patterns they didn’t realize were keeping them stuck, the simple shifts that made an immediate difference, and why Dr. Breus’ way of looking at sleep feels so much more realistic than the usual advice. From understanding your own rhythms to taking the pressure off “doing it perfectly,” this is about making sleep feel easier—not more complicated.

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