Mo and I dove deep into her journey with alcohol, from the moments where drinking seemed like just part of life to the realization that it was holding her back from the life she truly wanted. She opened up about the personal and professional shifts she’s experienced since choosing sobriety, and how that decision has rippled into every corner of her life.

We explored how social expectations around drinking can make it hard to imagine life without it, the identity changes that come with sobriety, and the surprising ways her relationships have evolved since letting alcohol go.

This episode is an honest, powerful look at what happens when you decide to stop numbing and start living fully awake.

In this episode, we talk about:

Mo’s turning point and what made her rethink alcohol

The role of social pressure in keeping drinking normalized

How sobriety has impacted her career and personal relationships

Navigating the identity shift that comes with an alcohol-free lifestyle

The joy and clarity she’s found on the other side

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Ghia – a non-alcoholic aperitif

Kin Euphorics – adaptogenic, mood-boosting alcohol-free beverages

Surely – non-alcoholic wine

Athletic Brewing Co. – non-alcoholic craft beer

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This episode is extra special because Heather Marie Morse isn’t just a guest, she’s an old friend. We first crossed paths back in 2008 or 2009 when I was teaching Pilates, and over the years, our lives kept intersecting; in bars, at parties, even as neighbors in the same building. Back then, we were drinking buddies, each trying to keep it together on the outside while struggling silently on the inside.

Fast forward to now, and our connection looks completely different. No booze. No blurry nights. No pretending everything is fine. Just honesty, growth, and a shared commitment to living fully awake.

Heather opens up about what her life was like before sobriety, the patterns and pressures that kept her stuck, and the moment she knew things had to change. We talk about the messy middle of transformation: the doubt, the discomfort, and the unexpected joy that comes when you finally stop numbing out.

This conversation is proof that you can rewrite your story, no matter how far gone you think you are. And sometimes, the friends you once drank with can become the ones you heal alongside.

Our shared past as drinking buddies and how different life is now

The silent struggles we both carried while appearing “fine”

Heather’s turning point and the decision to walk away from alcohol

What changes most in friendships when you stop drinking

The inner work required to live honestly and in alignment

Why you don’t have to hit rock bottom to choose sobriety

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When you think about removing alcohol, it’s not just a habit you’re letting go of, it’s a part of your identity.

For decades, drinking was woven into my work, social life, celebrations, and downtime. Letting it go meant untangling limiting beliefs like “I won’t be fun without alcohol” or “I won’t fit in at social events.”

In this episode, I share how alcohol became so enmeshed in my life that removing it felt like losing a part of myself, and how I built a new identity that’s fully in alignment with my values, health, and happiness. I talk about the resistance our brains put up when facing change, the discomfort of relearning how to socialize without a drink in hand, and why curiosity is the antidote to fear.

I also open up about another identity challenge I’m facing right now: a major neck surgery that will temporarily change what being “strong and fit” looks like for me. Just like sobriety, this is another recalibration-- an opportunity to apply the same tools that helped me quit drinking to navigate a completely different life challenge.

Whether you’re considering a break from alcohol, rebuilding your identity after big changes, or simply feeling “stuck,” this episode will give you insight, encouragement, and practical tools to move forward.

In This Episode, I Talk About:

Why removing alcohol can feel like losing part of your identity

Common limiting beliefs that keep people stuck

How curiosity can reframe fear and resistance

My process for relearning how to socialize without alcohol

How sobriety prepared me to face a major surgery with strength and resilience

Why recalibration, not perfection, is the real goal in a sober fit life

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I had the best time talking with Josh James, founder of Ocean Beach Cafe in San Francisco and a true pioneer in the alcohol-free movement.

Josh’s story is wild in the best way: he went from being a bartender to opening one of the first non-alcoholic bars in the country.

We talk about what really happens when you remove alcohol, not just from your body, but from your identity. Josh shares how taking a year off drinking helped him rediscover his productivity, heal his brain, and build something he never thought possible.

And if you’re curious about non-alcoholic wines, functional beverages, or why the alcohol industry is overdue for disruption, this episode is packed with science, real talk, and inspiration.

Josh and I also geek out on why alcohol crosses the blood-brain barrier (and mouthwash myths you won’t believe), plus the emerging future of sober socializing.

How Josh went from bartending to owning an alcohol-free cafe

Taking a year off drinking and the reality of brain healing

The cultural pressure to drink and how it shapes identity

Why alcohol is “all calories” and still sneaks into our health routines

The real science behind distillation, ethanol, and non-alcoholic wine

Why most non-alc reds are disappointing (but one Austrian wine changed everything)

The rise of functional, adaptogen-based spirits—and why they’re the future

Building Ocean Beach Cafe on a shoestring and making sobriety look and feel cool

His dream for a six-part docuseries showing how alcohol is being disrupted globally

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I don’t usually share rock bottom stories.

Because here’s the truth: you don’t have to crash and burn to change your life or your relationship with alcohol.
You don’t need a disaster to get better.

But when Joe Gallagher Jr. sent me a copy of his memoir From Bars to Jars, along with a jar of his homemade sauce, I knew I needed to share this one.

What happens when your life doesn’t just fall apart once, but over and over again?

Joe Gallagher Jr. knows.

He was a rising rock musician with Grammy buzz when a horrific car accident sent his already unstable world into a deeper spiral: addiction, legal battles, and years of chaos.

But over a year ago, something shifted. Joe got sober.
And he did something unexpected: he started making tomato sauce.

Using his Italian grandmother’s handwritten recipe, Joe turned one small batch into Apastioli Specialty Foods, now in over 15 Piggly Wiggly stores across South Carolina.

But this isn’t just about red sauce. Joe’s building a movement; creating jobs for people in recovery and veterans, supporting survivors of domestic violence, and developing a 1,700-acre farm rooted in healing and purpose.

In this inspiring episode, Joe and I talk about:

This is more than a comeback.
It’s about faith, food, forgiveness—and how redemption tastes a lot like eggplant parm with homemade sauce.

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I invited Julianne Serpa onto Sober Fit Life because her journey is such a real, layered, and relatable example of rethinking alcohol while embracing deeper self-awareness.

We first connected at a yoga class where her energy immediately drew me in. Over time, I learned about the profound shifts she’s made, not just cutting back on drinking, but completely reevaluating her relationship with it, all while deepening her yoga practice.

Julianne shares how in 2020, more downtime and more stress led to daily drinking that felt normal at first but revealed itself as numbing and misaligned with her values. Instead of labeling herself an “alcoholic,” she explored curiosity. She did short breaks, learned to sit with discomfort, and developed an experimental, yogic mindset of self-study (svadhyaya).

We talk about how her journey wasn’t about hitting rock bottom, but about noticing misalignment and seeking something more real, connected, and nourishing. She also opens up about health crises, including multiple surgeries related to BRCA2 gene risk, and how they gave her an even deeper respect for fueling her body without toxins.

She explains why yoga, chanting, kirtan, and creating spaces for other women are now at the heart of her mission. We also talk about grief, childlessness by choice and circumstance, and the power of finding your people so you don’t feel alone in a culture saturated with alcohol.

If you’re looking for an honest, compassionate, and wise conversation about curiosity, sobriety, and living a more intentional life, this one’s for you.

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I talk with Karla about something most people don't want to think about: the real health consequences of “normal” drinking. Karla developed alcohol-related cirrhosis in her early 30s—while living what many would call a high-functioning, successful life.

She wasn’t the stereotype of someone at “rock bottom.” She was managing a misunderstood anxiety disorder, working, taking care of responsibilities, and quietly worrying about how much she was drinking. She even had a specialist tell her to use alcohol to calm a hand tremor—normalizing something that would nearly kill her.

We break down how her health declined quietly, with subtle signs she almost ignored (like checking her eyes for yellow). Karla also talks about the silence and shame surrounding alcohol-related liver disease, especially for women who are taught drinking is just “part of life.”

Most importantly, Karla shares what shifted when she finally got honest about what alcohol was doing to her body—and how that honesty changed everything.

If you’ve ever told yourself you’re “fine” while quietly worrying about your drinking, this episode is for you.

How Karla’s drinking was normalized—even encouraged—by medical advice

The slow, quiet progression to cirrhosis while maintaining a “normal” life

Anxiety, self-medication, and the myth of “harmless” social drinking

Checking for yellow in her eyes—small signs something was very wrong

The shame and silence around liver disease in younger women

How honesty became the first step toward healing and freedom

Why we need to talk openly about alcohol’s real health risks

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This episode is a beautiful reminder that it's never too late to change your life. I sat down with artist and alcohol-free coach Rebecca Guevara Wingler, founder of Curious on Life, to talk about aging, creativity, healing, and how she found freedom from alcohol in her 60s.

Rebecca shares how she grew up in 1970s Los Angeles surrounded by freedom, curiosity, and cultural pressure, eventually leading her into a decades-long relationship with alcohol. From early experiences at slumber parties to wine-soaked girls’ nights in the Texas Hill Country, alcohol was always part of the story.

But by her late 50s, she realized it was keeping her stuck: physically, emotionally, and creatively. She wasn’t painting anymore. She didn’t feel well. And the life she had imagined for herself wasn’t aligning with how she was actually living.

What followed was a slow, powerful unfolding. Through breaks, reflection, trial and error, and community support, she stepped into an entirely new version of herself. Now, she helps other women in midlife reclaim their creative spirit and rewrite their relationship with alcohol through coaching and workshops.

We talk about:

Why so many women feel pressure to drink and how it becomes part of their identity

The way alcohol sneaks in and becomes routine, even in seemingly happy lives

Midlife reinvention and why it's never too late to get curious

Using art, creativity, and play as tools for healing

How Rebecca created her coaching program Unfold and podcast Curious on Life

The power of choosing curiosity over shame

Rebecca’s story is honest, relatable, and proof that change is always possible, no matter how long alcohol has been part of your life.

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In this episode of Sober Fit Life, I sat down with my brilliant friend and coach, AliceAnne Loftus, a business strategist, community builder, and founder of Leading Lady Coaching. We had an honest and much-needed conversation about leadership, authenticity, and why she made the bold decision to remove alcohol from her business events.

AliceAnne isn’t someone who ever drank much, but like so many of us, she felt the pressure to include alcohol at professional networking events, business mixers, and even coaching workshops. After we connected and began having deeper conversations about alcohol, she felt inspired to take a step back and ask: Why is alcohol the default? Who does it really serve? And what kind of space do I actually want to create?

What followed was a powerful shift, not just for her, but for her entire community. In a culture where women are encouraged to “wine down” and network over cocktails, AliceAnne chose a different path. She chose intention. She chose integrity. And in doing so, she gave countless women the permission to show up fully as themselves.

We talked about:

Why alcohol is so embedded in women’s networking culture

How “fun” and “fluff” can sometimes distract from true value

Her fears around pushback and what really happened instead

Creating sober-friendly, inclusive spaces without judgment

The emotional and professional impact of clear-minded connection

Why choosing to remove alcohol actually aligned her business more with her core values

The ripple effect this choice has had on her community and even her family

This episode is full of honesty, heart, and practical wisdom for any leader wondering how to create spaces that truly reflect their values.

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I sat down with Paulette Kengg, the author of Spirit-Led Sobriety, to talk about the deeply personal and spiritual journey of healing from alcohol addiction.

Paulette struggled with alcohol when she began drinking to cope with severe insomnia. But behind the sleepless nights was a lifetime of unprocessed trauma-from losing her father to gun violence at 14, to surviving sexual assault, to living with years of shame, loneliness, and religious guilt.

In this conversation, Paulette shares how alcohol became her comforter and how she eventually found freedom through her faith, therapy, EMDR, and neuroscience. We talk about the pain of feeling like you’re “the only one,” especially in the church, and how shame can silence even the strongest believers.

Her story is brave, raw, and full of hope. If you’ve ever questioned your relationship with alcohol or felt unseen in your faith community, this episode is for you.

Paulette’s near-death experience that became her wake-up call

How alcohol became a “solution” for her insomnia and quickly became a problem

Childhood trauma, religious shame, and unprocessed grief

Why traditional recovery programs didn’t work for her, and what did

The power of EMDR therapy and inner child work

Understanding neuroplasticity and the science of alcohol’s impact on the brain

Why women in church spaces often suffer in silence

Her message for anyone quietly struggling with alcohol and faith

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