In this episode of the Soberful podcast, Veronica Valli discusses the complexities of sobriety, emphasizing the importance of understanding what sobriety truly means. She distinguishes between complete abstinence and harm minimization, explores the concept of recovery, and addresses the common issue of cross-addiction. Valli also highlights the significance of emotional sobriety as a crucial aspect of lasting recovery, encouraging listeners to engage in practices that support their mental and emotional health.

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Veronica discusses the detrimental effects of people pleasing on sobriety and emotional health. She emphasizes that getting sober involves not just abstaining from alcohol but also addressing emotional sobriety, which includes understanding and overcoming people pleasing behaviors. Valli explains how these behaviors often stem from childhood experiences and the belief that one is responsible for others' happiness. She advocates for setting boundaries as a crucial step towards emotional freedom and self-discovery, encouraging listeners to take responsibility for their own emotional experiences rather than trying to please others.

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In 2016 Alanis Morissette discovered that her business manager had embezzled $4.7 million of her money. Jonathan Schwartz was at rehearsals with Beyonce when he realised that his six-year addiction and gambling problem had been discovered. Jonathan is a former wealth manager to the stars who went to prison for his crimes. He is now sober and this is his story back to humility and redemption.

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Chip and Veronica discuss all the signs we ignore as we wrestle with the fact that alcohol may no longer be our friend.

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Veronica is joined by two forgiveness experts who share the power of forgiving.

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Rejection stings. When we feel rejections it's often because of experiences in the past. Learning how to deal with rejection is how we get emotionally sober.

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Ben Gosden is a pastor and alcoholic. He was the 'cool' pastor, the one who went for a couple of beers. What people didn't see was all the secret drinking. He joins Veronica to discuss how the 12-steps reignited his faith.

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Karen McMahon is a coach for people in high-conflict divorces. She talks through why divorce is an invitation to grow and change so you don't repeat the mistakes with the next person.

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Veronica shares why she thinks perception is essential to staying sober. That how we see the world is not necessarily how it is. We can't stay sober if we believe the best way to have fun is to drink.

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Sasha Tozzi joins Veronica to talk about how lost she was before getting sober at 26. How cocaine brought her to her knees and how she is navigating life as a sober woman and contemplating having a family.

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