Chris and Ugo go behind the scenes at the England team hotel as Steve Borthwick names his first side as head coach. There are some big calls as Manu Tuilagi is left out, so what is Borthwick’s explanation for omitting the Sale powerhouse? He also explains why Marcus Smith and Owen Farrell are together in the midfield, and why he has welcomed back some players from the international wilderness. We speak to one of England’s key players in Maro Itoje, while Gregor Townsend is also on the pod as he makes some brave calls of his own.