For the Fourth of July, we’re revisiting Ryan’s conversation with Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Thomas Ricks about America’s founding, the ancient ideas that shaped it, and the first principles the founders were trying to build into the country.

In this episode, Ryan and Thomas talk about First Principles: What America's Founders Learned From the Greeks and Romans and How That Shaped Our Country, and why figures like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison looked to the ancient world for models of courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom.

📚 Pick up a copy: First Principles: What America's Founders Learned from the Greeks and Romans and How That Shaped Our Country by Thomas Ricks

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