In this episode of the Commune Podcast, Jeff sits down with Marianne Williamson for a wide-ranging conversation on Jesus, not as a figure of dogma or doctrine, but as a guide to inner transformation.

Marianne reframes the story of Jesus as a psychological and spiritual map of human awakening. From the birth, crucifixion, and resurrection as inner archetypes, to the idea of Christ consciousness as a latent potential within us all, she invites listeners to reconsider what these teachings were originally pointing toward.

Together, Jeff and Marianne explore why this reinterpretation feels especially urgent now — as traditional institutions falter, collective suffering intensifies, and more people search for meaning beyond rigid belief systems. The conversation weaves together spirituality, politics, trauma, and moral responsibility, offering a vision of inner work as the foundation for collective healing.