Ready to rethink how you approach your business? Susan Guthrie welcomes Trina Nudson, a trailblazing entrepreneur and family advocate, to the Make Money Mediating podcast. Trina’s journey from foster care social work to owning multiple thriving businesses is packed with lessons in resilience, adaptability, and growth. If you've ever struggled with running the business side of your mediation practice, this episode is a must-listen.

Trina shares her experiences building businesses from the ground up—without prior training—and how she navigated challenges by leaning on external resources like the SBA and the EOS system. She reveals the pivotal mindset shifts that helped her embrace creativity and scale her impact, both in business and in co-parenting. 

Don’t miss this inspiring conversation about overcoming obstacles, embracing growth, and transforming both personal and professional lives.

Highlights from this episode:

More About This Week's Special Guest, Trina Nudson: Trina Nudson is a dedicated advocate for children and families, committed to safeguarding childhoods and fostering transformative growth. As the founder of THE LAYNE PROJECT, she empowers parents, professionals, and families to navigate the challenges of co-parenting with resilience and purpose through her BeH2O™ program. Grounded in neuroscience, business leadership, and mindset coaching, Trina’s innovative approach inspires lasting mindset shifts and meaningful change.

In addition to her work with THE LAYNE PROJECT, Trina is the owner of My Child Advocate, PA, where she

gives children a voice in the courtroom and supports families in creating healthier dynamics. Her work emphasizes gratitude, growth, and the belief that every challenge holds a valuable lesson.

A certified coach and lifelong learner, Trina integrates cutting-edge research into her programs, helping others unlock their potential and remain grounded in their “why.” She is passionate about empowering families and professionals to embrace their journey with clarity and purpose.

Websites:  

https://thelayneproject.com

https://beh2ocoaching.com

Social Media:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/trina-nudson-19b169149/

Other resources mentioned in this episode:

EOS - Entrepreneurial Operating System

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Discover how AI can level up your practice, reduce burnout, and make legal work more fulfilling with insights from Kara Peterson, co-founder of Descrybe.ai. Susan Guthrie welcomes Kara Peterson, a trailblazer in legal tech and one of the ABA’s 2024 Women of Legal Tech, to share how AI tools are transforming the future of law for solo practitioners, mediators, and small firms. 

Whether you’re looking to streamline your work, improve access to justice, or overcome tech hesitations, Kara’s groundbreaking platform, Descrybe.ai, is leading the charge with tools that are accessible, intuitive, and game-changing. 

Kara’s passion for revolutionizing legal tech is contagious, and this conversation will leave you feeling inspired and ready to take your practice to the next level. If you’re curious about how AI can benefit you—without the overwhelm—this is the episode to tune into.

Highlights from this episode:

More About This Week's Special Guest, Kara Peterson: Kara Peterson is the co-founder of descrybe.ai, a Boston-based justice tech startup launched in July 2023. The company leverages AI to democratize access to the law and address the access-to-justice crisis in the United States. 

A seasoned marketing communications executive, Kara has dedicated her career to organizations dedicated social justice. She previously served as Chief Communications Offi cer at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, Executive Director of Communications at Boston University School of Public Health, and Director of Communications at Suff olk University Law School.

A recognized advocate for responsible AI and AI for good, Kara was named a “Woman of Legal Tech 2024” by the American Bar Association. She is a frequent speaker at conferences and podcasts and has garnered signifi cant accolades for descrybe.ai, including a 2024 Anthem Award for Best Use of AI, a 2024Webby Award nomination, and two 2024 American Legal Technology Awards.

Website: https://descrybe.ai

Social Media:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kj-peterson

https://www.linkedin.com/company/descrybe-ai

https://bsky.app/profile/descrybe-ai.bsky.social

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Ready to kick off 2025 with a practice that’s more efficient, organized, and set for success? Then get ready, as Susan Guthrie shares actionable tips to declutter—not just the physical space, but the mental and operational obstacles holding you back.

From letting go of mental clutter to streamlining inefficient processes, you’ll learn how to create a better business that serves you and your clients. A clean, organized practice lays the foundation for long-term success, and the time you invest now will pay off in a thriving year ahead.

Highlights from this episode:

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Mastering the art of follow-up is essential for turning prospects into clients. With her signature clarity and expertise, Susan Guthrie shares actionable strategies to stay top of mind with prospects without coming across as pushy or over the top.

From crafting personalized messages to automating the follow-up process, you’ll gain a comprehensive toolkit for success. Susan also covers how to create a follow-up schedule that keeps you consistent, the power of persistence without being overbearing, and tips for crafting messages that resonate. 

Whether you’re reaching out to new leads or maintaining relationships with past clients, these insights will help you build trust while growing your practice.

Highlights from this episode:

➡ Grab Your Copy of The Art of Follow-up Download Handout 

Also mentioned in this episode:

Susan’s Book on Kindle!

Make sure to visit turnsoutpodcast.com and keep an eye out for our launch drop! You won’t want to miss these inspiring stories, and you might even hear some familiar voices.

Stay tuned, and remember, Turns Out... life has so much more in store than we ever imagined!

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Susan Guthrie welcomes Amanda Nugent, Director of Talent and Diversity at Carmody, Torrance, Sandec, and Hennessey LLP, for a conversation on breaking out of the traditional litigation career mold to lead with purpose. Amanda reveals how she transformed her legal career by embracing her passion for diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI)—what was once an extracurricular passion is now her full-time role. 

Discover how Amanda built a position that aligns with her core values, all while championing a workplace that elevates diverse voices and fosters a more inclusive firm culture. "It was the best risk I ever took," she shares, inspiring listeners to think outside the box and craft a career that truly lights them up.

Highlights from this episode:

• Amanda’s leap from traditional litigation to DEI leadership and why it was the best risk she ever took.

More About This Week's Special Guest: Amanda Nugent

Amanda is the Director of Talent & Diversity at Carmody Torrance Sandak & Hennessey LLP, a Connecticut-based law firm. Prior to this role, Amanda practiced law at Carmody for 15 years as part of their litigation practice group.

Amanda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-nugent-28a70987/

Also mentioned in this episode:

Make sure to visit turnsoutpodcast.com and keep an eye out for our launch drop! You won’t want to miss these inspiring stories, and you might even hear some familiar voices.

Stay tuned, and remember, Turns Out... life has so much more in store than we ever imagined!

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Ready to optimize your mediation game? Susan Guthrie welcomes the dynamic Gabrielle Hartley, best-selling author, and mediation trailblazer, to chat about her groundbreaking approach to mediation pricing and publishing success. Gabrielle opens up on navigating the traditional vs. self-publishing world and shares pro tips for aspiring authors. 

Expect insider tips, laughs, and a fresh perspective on customizing your practice to align with your strengths. Susan and Gabrielle wrap up with a shoutout to the upcoming ABA Section of Dispute Resolution's Advanced Mediation & Advocacy Skills Institute – because staying connected and learning never goes out of style! Tune in and get ready to elevate your practice with some serious inspiration.

Highlights from this episode:

• The benefits and limitations of working with a conventional/major publishing house

More About This Week's Special Guest: Gabrielle Hartley

Gabrielle Hartley, Esq. is an online mediator, former court to NYS Supreme Court Judge Jeffrey Sunshine, and co-chair the ABA Mediation Committee.  She is the author of Better Apart; The Radically Positive Way to Separate (Harper Collins 2019) and The Secret to Getting Along and Why It's Easier than You Think (Sourcebooks 2023).  She has a popular TEDx on how to get along better using her Y.E.S. Method.  She is a graduate of Brooklyn Law School and Cornell University. Learn more at gabriellehartley.com

Gabrielle’s website: http://GabrielleHartley.com

Contact Gabrielle: [email protected]

Also mentioned in this episode:

Advanced Mediation and Advocacy Skills Institute will be held online on October 16 and 17th. This institute will offer incredible programming to help you uplevel your skills which is a great way to advance your practice! Register for the October institute here ambar.org/med2024

What Are You Worth? Understanding Pricing for Dispute Resolution Professionals on Make Money Mediating #507

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Unlock the power of your voice and elevate your impact as a mediator—today. Susan Guthrie reveals 10 game-changing tactics that will transform you into a confident and captivating public speaker.

This episode delves into an essential skill for mediators and professionals alike—public speaking. Whether you’re addressing a conference, leading a workshop, or presenting in a meeting, strong speaking skills can set you apart. You’ll hear 10 effective tactics that can help you become a more confident and impactful speaker.

Here are just some of the strategies you’ll hear about: 

• Start with a Strong Opening: Capture attention within the first 30 seconds with a compelling story or surprising fact.

Tune into the full episode to hear all 10 tactics to help you become a great public speaker. 

Public speaking is a journey, and improvement comes with practice. Remember, your voice is powerful—keep engaging, practicing, and believing in yourself!

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For the first time, The ABA Section of Dispute Resolution is holding a virtual PRACTICE DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE to support dispute resolution professionals in building and growing a successful practice at any point in their career!  

This institute aims to help colleagues build successful practices to advance the profession and dispute resolution as a whole. The better each colleague does, the better off we all are.

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

In this episode of Make Money Mediating, Susan Guthrie dives into one of the most commonly overlooked yet crucial aspects of building a successful dispute resolution practice—branding. Transitioning into dispute resolution from another successful career can be challenging, especially when it comes to standing out and attracting clients. The missing link? Branding! Susan discusses why so many professionals forget this vital step and how it can make or break your practice.

Tune in to learn about the importance of branding, how to create a unique brand identity, and the role of personalization in enhancing your client experience. Plus, discover practical tips on leveraging technology to boost your brand and measure its impact.

Key Takeaways:

• The Branding Gap: Why professionals transitioning into dispute resolution often struggle without a clear brand.

Mentioned in this episode: Murphy Funkhouser Reveals: How to Transform Conferences into Marketing Goldmines on Make Money Mediating #509

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For the first time, The ABA Section of Dispute Resolution is holding a virtual PRACTICE DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE to support dispute resolution professionals in building and growing a successful practice at any point in their career!  

This institute aims to help colleagues to build successful practices to advance the profession and dispute resolution as a whole. The better each colleague does, the better off we all are.

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

Overcoming Imposter Syndrome in Your Business

You’ll hear Susan offer practical tips to conquer self-doubt, embrace your feelings, seek support, take bold risks, and practice self-compassion as you tackle Imposter Syndrome head-on. 

Overcoming imposter syndrome is a rewarding journey filled with growth and discovery. 

Highlights from the Episode:

• What Is Imposter Syndrome 

Mentioned in this episode:

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For the first time, The ABA Section of Dispute Resolution is holding a virtual PRACTICE DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE to support dispute resolution professionals in building and growing a successful practice at any point in their career!  

This institute aims to help colleagues to build successful practices to advance the profession and dispute resolution as a whole. The better each colleague does, the better off we all are.

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.

The Future of Arbitration: AI, Tech Innovations, and Ethical Considerations with Professor Amy Schmitz

Susan Guthrie is joined by Professor Amy Schmitz, who is a renowned expert in dispute resolution and legal technology. They delve into Amy's new book, 'The Arbitration Conversation,' and discuss its insights on the intersection of arbitration and technology. 

The episode covers topics such as AI's impact on legal practice, blockchain-based arbitration, the importance of technological competence, and how technology can enhance access to justice. 

Tune in for an engaging discussion on the future of dispute resolution.

Highlights from the Episode:

• The Role of Technology in Arbitration

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More About This Week's Special Guest: Amy Schmitz

Amy J. Schmitz, holding the John Deaver Drinko-Baker & Hostetler Endowed Chair in Law at Moritz, is a distinguished scholar specializing in arbitration, legal tech, and dispute resolution. She co-directs the Translational Data Analytics Institute and leads the JusticeTech Capstone Program. Author of over 75 articles and co-author of key casebooks, Schmitz has received numerous awards for her contributions to technology, law, and dispute resolution.  Her latest book, "The Arbitration Conversation," and her highly regarded podcast delve into the intersection of arbitration and technology. Before Ohio State, Schmitz taught at the University of Missouri and the University of Colorado, clerked for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit, and practiced arbitration law in Seattle and Minneapolis. Schmitz's accolades include the AALS Section Award for Technology, Law and Legal Education, and she is a Fulbright Specialist and member of the American Law Institute.

Amy's email is [email protected]

Amy’s book: The Arbitration Conversation

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Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the United States, has transitioned from a successful legal and mediation practice to become one of the foremost trainers and consultants for professionals in the field. As Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association’s Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan is dedicated to advancing the practice and profession of dispute resolution worldwide. Through her Top 1% in the World podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie," she continues to share her expertise, reaching millions of listeners globally.