The Reverse Aging Club with Meredith Oke

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One in two cats will get cancer. One in three dogs. Performance horses are kept in stalls, fed processed kibble-equivalent feed, and pushed to their physical limits — and still their cancer rates don't come close. Jackie Jolie spent two decades in that world before realizing what the differentiating variable was. It wasn't diet. It wasn't genetics. It was light.

Jackie Jolie is an equine and canine bodyworker with close to 20 years of experience in animal rehabilitation and performance. After healing her own Lyme disease and persistent hormonal dysfunction through quantum biology and changes to her light environment — without hormone replacement — she founded AnimaSol (formerly EquiSol) to bring red and near-infrared light therapy to dogs, cats, and horses. Find her at animasol.life.

What You'll Learn

• Why cancer rates in cats and dogs have reached epidemic levels — and what domesticated horses can teach us about the root cause
• How red and near-infrared light interact with the mitochondria to produce energy, reduce inflammation, and accelerate tissue repair
• The surprising connection between light exposure and blood sugar — and why 10 minutes of red/NIR light can shift your metabolic markers
• Why agricultural science has been demonstrating light's hormonal power for generations — and what that means for your pets (and you)
• How to think about red and near-infrared light as a supplement your pet is already deficient in, regardless of age or diagnosis
• Two detailed case studies: a fully paralyzed Yorkshire Terrier who walked in 10 days, and a severe peroneal hernia that resolved without surgery in six months
• What to look for in a red light therapy device — and why near-infrared must be included alongside red wavelengths

Timestamps

00:00 Why Pets Get Sick Today

00:43 Meet Jackie Jolie

02:58 Jackie’s Lyme Disease Wake-Up

06:31 How Light Changed Everything

08:42 The Rise of Cancer in Pets

12:11 Indoor Cats and Environmental Stressors

20:02 Light, Blood Sugar, and Metabolism

25:59 Red Light Therapy for Animals

28:14 How Red Light Therapy Works

30:14 Red Light vs Anti-Inflammatory Drugs

30:49 Risks of Arthritis Injections in Pets

32:17 LED Safety and What to Know

33:11 Performance and Athletic Recovery

35:33 How Injuries Heal With Light

37:06 Light as a Daily Health Tool

42:26 Hype vs Skepticism Around Light Therapy

44:23 Paralysis Recovery Case Study

47:08 Hernia Recovery Case Study

51:53 Research and Horse Studies

57:29 Where to Find Anima Soul

58:55 Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts

Key Concepts

Photobiomodulation (PBM): The use of red and near-infrared light to stimulate biological processes at the cellular level. Over 7,000 peer-reviewed studies and counting. Also called red light therapy, though that term technically covers only part of the spectrum.

Red vs. Near-Infrared: Red light (roughly 620–700nm) penetrates 5–10mm — effective for skin, collagen, and surface circulation. Near-infrared (700–1100nm) reaches bone marrow, nerves, and deep soft tissue. Effective devices include both.

Mitochondria: The cellular organelles responsible for producing ATP (energy), structured water, and heat. Red and NIR light directly stimulate the mitochondrial electron transport chain, making these processes faster and more efficient. Mitochondrial health is now understood to be central to metabolic, immune, and neurological function.

Redox Potential: A measure of the body's ability to manage oxidative stress and mount immune responses. Jackie's Lyme disease episode, she argues, was made possible by years of lowered redox from light deficiency — and subsequent tick bites produced no illness once her redox was restored.

Light Deficiency: The premise that modern indoor living has created a systemic, near-universal deficiency in red and near-infrared wavelengths — wavelengths that would have been available essentially continuously in an outdoor ancestral environment. Framed by researchers as the "21st century scurvy."

Resources Mentioned

• Glenn Jeffery — Researcher whose work includes the finding that 10 minutes of red/NIR light exposure reduces blood sugar by 30%; also the ICU study showing patients receiving red/NIR left intensive care 30% faster. (University College London)
• Scott Zimmerman — Colleague of Jeffery's; has described chronic red/NIR light deficiency as analogous to scurvy — a foundational deficiency driving widespread dysfunction
• Jack Kruse — Neurosurgeon and quantum biology educator whose work on light, water, and magnetism introduced Jackie to this field
• Jim Laird — Strength coach who connected Jackie to quantum biology; previous QBC guest
• AnimaSol — Jackie's company; red and near-infrared light therapy blankets for dogs, cats, and horses. animasol.life
• IAQB Practice-Based Research Network (PBRN) — The framework Jackie is exploring for formalizing her animal case studies into publishable evidence

Connect with Jackie Jolie

Jackie's case studies are a window into what becomes possible when we stop treating light as optional. If this episode is prompting you to think differently about your own practice — human or animal — the IAQB Practice-Based Research Network is designed for exactly this: turning field observations into evidence that matters. Learn more at iaqb.org.

Website: https://www.animasol.life/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Animasol.life/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anima__sol/

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"Almost everyone in the modern world is running on 50% capacity and not even realizing it."

"Wild animals don't need to think about what they're doing, they just do it. And they do it because it feels good and it feels right."

"There are insights that you can only get when your mind is sufficiently trained in a breadth of areas."

Cameron Borg is a science communicator and host of the Ricci Flow podcast — and one of the clearest translators working at the intersection of quantum biology and real-world health. In this conversation, we go deep: from the philosophical foundations of why all biology is quantum biology, to the specific mechanism by which near-infrared light powers your mitochondria, to the impossible-to-prove-but-impossible-to-ignore question of non-native EMFs. And then Cameron lands it all in the most practical place possible. Stop overthinking it. Go outside.

Cameron Borg is the host of the Ricci Flow podcast, where he interviews scientists, researchers, and practitioners at the frontier of biology, physics, and human health. Known for his ability to translate complex science into clear, grounded thinking, Cameron has spoken with some of the leading figures in quantum biology, circadian medicine, and bioenergetics. He is based in Sweden and writes on Substack.

What You'll Learn

• Why calling it "quantum biology" implies there's a non-quantum biology — and why that framing is the field's biggest problem
• How near-infrared light does a "random walk" through your body, donating vibrational energy to the electron transport chain along the way
• Why your body evolved to be transparent in the exact wavelength range where most solar photons land — and what that means for metabolism
• The Prigogine story: how a classically trained pianist won the Nobel Prize by asking a question physicists weren't asking
• Why non-native EMFs are a hyper-novel exposure — not just more of what we've always had, but something our entire evolutionary line has never encountered
• Why trying to understand this scientifically often makes people do it worse — and what to do instead
• Cameron's actual daily approach: surprisingly lax, and entirely grounded in evolutionary logic

Timestamps

00:00 Studying Life Instead of Disease

00:19 The Shift Into Quantum Biology

02:09 Meet Cameron Borg

03:37 Resources and Where to Start

06:06 What Quantum Biology Means in Practice

08:26 Examples of Quantum Effects in Biology

13:45 Reductionism vs a Whole-System View of Health

18:29 Rethinking Evolution Through a Quantum Lens

21:41 Translating Between Science and “Woo”

28:14 Art, Culture, and Scientific Insight

35:15 Light Moving Through the Body

36:20 Understanding Near Infrared Light

37:12 How Photons Behave Inside Cells

38:57 Why Metabolism Depends on Light

42:04 The Energy Deficit of Modern Indoor Living

43:29 The Sun’s Role in Driving Complexity

47:29 Why People Feel Better Outdoors

51:12 The Debate Around Non-Native EMFs

54:43 Why EMF Research Is So Challenging

01:01:44 Practical Lifestyle Changes That Actually Matter

01:09:16 Closing Thoughts and Wrap-Up

Key Concepts Glossary

Near-infrared light (NIR): Wavelengths (~700–1400nm) that fall in a tissue and water transparency window, allowing penetration deep into the body rather than being absorbed at the surface.

Electron transport chain (ETC): A series of mitochondrial protein complexes that transfer electrons to produce ATP. NIR photons appear to lower the activation energy thresholds between steps.

Principle of superposition: When two electromagnetic fields occupy the same space, they combine into a new, different field. External non-native EMFs superimpose on the body's own endogenous field, altering it.

Negentropy: The capacity of living systems to maintain or increase order, apparently opposing the second law of thermodynamics.

Hyper-novel exposure: An environmental stimulus not just quantitatively different from ancestral norms, but categorically new — something our entire evolutionary lineage has never encountered.

Resources Mentioned

• Ricci Flow Podcast — Cameron Borg
• Cameron Borg's Substack
• Quantum Evolution — John Joe McFadden (2001)
• What is Life? — Erwin Schrödinger (foreword Roger Penrose, 1991)
• The Origins of Life — Eric Smith & Harold Morowitz
• Cells, Gels and the Engines of Life — Gerald Pollack
• How the Hippies Saved Physics — David Kaiser (mentioned by Meredith)

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Connect with Cameron Borg

Substack: https://ricciflow.substack.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ricciflownutrition/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RicciFlowNutrition

X: https://x.com/ricciflowhealth

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-borg/

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What if your light environment was the missing variable in your healing journey? In this episode, Jai Kapoor and Daniel White — co-founders of InRhythm and two people who reversed serious autoimmune conditions through circadian biology — share one of the most remarkable recovery stories we've ever featured. You'll learn why circadian rhythms behave like biological infrastructure rather than a lifestyle tip, what infrared light does that modern LEDs can't, and why the future of human health may look less like a supplement stack and more like water sanitation.

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For every hour morning light is delayed, BMI increases by over a point — and most of us are getting nowhere near enough lux. Sarah Kleiner, founder of Sarah Kleiner Wellness, Board Certified in Applied Quantum Biology from the ANMCB, and host of the top 2% podcast Evolving Wellness, breaks down the light variable that could be undermining your metabolism, weight, and sleep.

You'll walk away knowing:

1. Why lux — not just blue light — is the brightness signal driving your metabolism and weight regulation
2. Why lux exposure is cumulative and how to track and optimize it throughout your day
3. What infrared light does for your mitochondria and why modern environments have almost entirely stripped it away

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Download MyCircadianApp (with the lux meter!) in the app store on your device. Use code QBCPOD

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Peter Cowan: the quantum biology practitioner, former WiFi firmware engineer, musician, and self-described high school dropout who sparked a global conversation about EMFs and injuries. A single post on X connecting the San Francisco 49ers' alarming injury rate to the electromagnetic fields generated by a nearby electrical substation exploded to over 22 million views, landed in the Washington Post, and was covered by mainstream media all over the world.

In this episode Peter unpacks the biophysical mechanisms behind his hypothesis, explaining how non-native electromagnetic fields disrupt the mitochondrial electron transport chain, trigger oxidative stress, reduce cellular water production, and ultimately compromise the structural integrity of collagen: the connective tissue that tendons, ligaments, and fascia depend on. He then layers in the circadian dimension: how late-night screen exposure, high-kelvin stadium lighting, cross-country travel, and disrupted sleep cycles impair the very repair processes collagen needs to stay strong.

Throughout, Peter and Meredith reflect on what this moment means: the declining authority of legacy media, the power of citizen researchers & journalists willing to take public risks, and the growing appetite among ordinary people for answers that the mainstream medical system isn't providing.

5 Key Takeaways

1. Electromagnetic fields can disrupt mitochondrial function, leading to tissue damage.
2. Circadian rhythms are crucial for cellular repair, especially in collagen and tendons.
3. Citizen research can uncover environmental health issues overlooked by mainstream media.
4. Reducing EMF exposure and optimizing light exposure can improve health and resilience.
5. Chronic illnesses often result from multiple stressors, including environmental and lifestyle factors.

Memorable Quotes"I never said the substation was the only reason the 49ers are injured. I also never said it was the most important reason. But nobody reads.""It's never one thing. Stressors add on top of each other. And at some point it's the straw that broke the camel's back.""Collagen is 99.7% water by molecular count. The water in collagen is structural — it's not just there to make it wet."Connect with Peter Cowan

To support Peter’s research and deep dive into the science: https://peteranthonycowan.substack.com/t/49ers-emf-injury-series

EMF Consultations: https://www.livingenergywellness.com/

Piano Music: https://www.petercowan.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peter.anthony.cowan

X: https://x.com/living_energy

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“Music is absolutely like my lifeblood... I don't know where I would be without music,” says Kristen Gilbert, occupational therapist turned quantum biology practitioner, who joins the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast for a deeply personal—and profoundly practical—exploration of self-belonging, nervous system regulation, and the healing power of rhythm.

With ten years in mental health, Kristen shares how occupational therapy, with its individualized goal-setting and routine design, becomes a platform for championing quantum biology and circadian health. She reveals how simple interventions like light hygiene and mindful rhythms can catalyze radical change in clients—sometimes in just one week. Through stories of heartbreak, self-reclamation, and musical transformation, Kristen maps the journey from self-sabotage to joy, showing how belonging—to nature, to community, and to oneself—is foundational to healing and expansion.

Tune in to hear how Kristen integrates tools like the Enneagram, somatic therapies, and musical entrainment—whether performing electronic music or classical piano—to restore coherence within and without. Discover why regulating your nervous system isn’t just therapeutic: it’s an act of revolution, and why cultivating true self-belonging is the ultimate gift you can offer yourself—and your community.

5 Key Takeaways

1. Belong to yourself first—cultivate inner coherence with nature, light, and darkness for true stability and joy.
2. Slow down and get curious; mindfulness, breathwork, and body awareness help you break through self-sabotage and expand your capacity for joy.
3. Give your nervous system what it needs—choose rest, connection with nature, and regulate before pushing forward, even if it feels boring.
4. Embrace all parts of your experience, especially difficult emotions; meet anger and discomfort with curiosity and presence for personal transformation.
5. Expand your joy and success ceiling by integrating quantum biology and circadian health—commit to practical routines like sunrise exposure, light hygiene, and nervous system regulation.

Memorable Quotes"I went through quite a devastating heartbreak almost two years ago, and I just felt like I was completely in pieces for a long time. I leaned on my people, but there was a part of that journey I really had to walk alone. I had to meet the darkest, most scared, most in pain parts of myself from my highest self and steward those parts, truly being with all the parts of myself to put myself back together.""A healthy nervous system is a flexible nervous system. When we can settle and drop into rest and digest, then we can go out into the world, feel the stimulation, and be grateful to return to that settled quality. For me, it's about connecting to nature everywhere I go.""Our bodies need us to slow down in order to feel what's actually happening. When I'm tired, I rest. When I'm hungry, I eat. When I have to go pee, I go pee. I don't override my body and wait. To truly slow down in order to catch up with myself has been one of the greatest gifts of self-belonging for me."Connect with Kristen

Website: https://kristengilbert.ca/

Instagram: www.instagram.com/sunhunter_cv

YouTube: www.youtube.com/sunhunter_cv

Resources Mentioned

Gabor Maté's Compassionate Inquiry (therapy and trauma program) - https://compassionateinquiry.com/

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“It is his dream to democratize it,” says Meredith Oke, introducing electromagnetic biophysicist Michal Cifra and his vision to build a Global Human Biophoton Atlas on the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast. What if measuring the invisible light our bodies emit—a phenomenon called “biological autoluminescence”—could reveal how healthy and resilient we truly are?

In this eye-opening episode, Michal Cifra, team leader at the Czech Academy of Sciences in Prague, explains the startling reality: every living organism emits light, not metaphorically, but in actual, measurable photons. Drawing from nearly two decades of research (and hands-on stories of sleeping in darkrooms to measure his own glow), Michal Cifra reveals how these emissions aren’t merely curious side effects: they correlate with stress, age, illness, and even our state of mind.

But Michal Cifra reaches further—his new project invites practitioners and the public worldwide to help map human biophotonic emissions. Imagine having a non-invasive marker for true biological age or systemic health, tracked across the globe. Could monitoring our “shine” become the next revolution in preventative medicine?

Tune in to the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast for a deep dive into cutting-edge biophysics, the mysteries (and limits) of cellular light communication, and the chance to participate in the dawn of a new health paradigm—where your body’s inner light just might be the key to longevity and wellness.

Memorable Quotes"There is a physical light being emitted directly from the object. If you put your hand under a sensitive camera, you will see exactly the same shape of the light, with some interesting details—there’s a spatial property, so the light is not always completely homogeneous in intensity. It is real, measurable light, though so weak we cannot see it with the naked eye.""As we age, we shine more. Our dominant hand tends to shine more. The extremities—feet and hands—tend to shine more than flat surfaces. People who are stressed shine more, while long-term meditators typically shine less. It’s tightly coupled to oxidative stress and our body's ability to maintain homeostasis.""My ultimate goal within 15 years, by the end of my career, is to have a million subjects measured all over the world using an ambassador network and collecting this data. That way, everyone will know that organisms emit light, and we can start from there, thinking further."Connect with Michal

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michal.cifra/?hl=en

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michal-cifra-5a5a5437/

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“Maybe I don’t always have to give the molecule—maybe I could give the wave. If I can give the wave and do the same thing as giving the molecule, boy, that will be a revolution.” says Dr Lance Becker, pioneering emergency medicine doctor and chair of Northwell Health’s emergency department, who joins the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast to unravel the tantalizing future of medicine at the quantum frontier.

Lance B. Becker M.D. FAHA is an internationally recognized physician-scientist and a leading authority in the field of emergency medicine, resuscitation, cardiology, and critical care medicine. His work has revolutionized resuscitation science, particularly in the realms of cardiac arrest management, therapeutic hypothermia, therapies for reperfusion injury, and mitochondrial medicine.

In his role as a scientist, Dr Lance Becker has begun studying quantum biology and in this episode he explains why energy—not just biochemistry—guides cellular decisions of life and death, how mitochondria move through our bodies to heal in ways textbooks never taught, and what it will mean to diagnose and heal disease using non-invasive wave-based sensors rather than blood samples or pills. He describes an imminent paradigm shift, where detecting our subtle, unique energetic “fingerprints” will allow real-time, personalized diagnosis and treatment.

Tune in to this mind-expanding episode of the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast to learn why Dr Lance Becker thinks biological science is on the threshold of its next revolution—one that could rival the discovery of DNA—and how you can be part of it.

5 Key Takeaways

1. Imagine your body as a symphony of waves, not just chemicals—seek out ways to support your “wave health” with light, sound, and nature, not just pills and procedures.
2. Don’t wait for science to catch up before taking action—spend time in sunlight, get outside, and explore low-risk practices that honor your body’s innate wave connection.
3. Question old paradigms. Ask your health professionals about new frontiers like mitochondrial health, quantum biology, and non-invasive diagnostics. Push for innovation.
4. Build bridges across disciplines—whether you’re a patient, researcher, or just curious—talk about these topics, form connections, and join communities moving quantum biology forward.
5. Stay curious and courageous. There’s never been a better time to be part of a scientific revolution—your support, attention, and advocacy can help reshape the future of medicine.

Memorable Quotes"It's very likely that each reaction has its own fingerprint of what waves those are. Because it's not just energy—it's a specific fingerprint to that energy, made up of this wavelength. If we can identify what those are, we could say, 'Oh, that reaction took place,' and that would be very powerful.""We have a ton to figure out, and just think of all this fun research we can be doing on some of these things. I think one of the biggest questions for the general public is, does this seem like a valuable thing to maybe learn about? I kind of think this is a really important thing for us to learn about.""When good science and truth are under attack, it’s really important that we have voices that tell everyone how valuable research is to the world and how valuable it could be to the future of the world, to our children, to our grandchildren and beyond."Connect withe Dr. Becker

Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research: https://feinstein.northwell.edu/institutes-researchers/our-researchers/lance-b-becker-md-faha

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The Guy Foundation – https://www.theguyfoundation.org/

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“The body, when it’s inflamed, does not want more oxygen. It wants to get rid of oxygen,” says Dr. Andrew Cohen, board-certified dentist and sleep medicine specialist, who joins the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast to expose a major blind spot in conventional approaches to sleep, chronic fatigue, and airway health. For decades, Dr. Cohen battled relentless exhaustion, sleep apnea, high blood pressure, and reflux—treating symptoms with top-tier interventions from laser surgery to jaw expansion devices, yet his problems persisted and even worsened.

Today, Dr. Cohen recounts the wake-up call that prompted him to overhaul his thinking: a radical shift away from the purely anatomical, toward mitochondrial health and bioenergetics. He explains how improving his light environment, blocking blue light, and reconnecting with natural sunlight rapidly reversed multiple chronic symptoms—including sleep apnea, hypertension, and lifelong fatigue—leading not just to restored function but to true wellbeing.

Dr. Cohen lays out why most dental and sleep practitioners are missing the metabolic roots of inflammation, why "fixing the anatomy" alone can backfire, and how metabolic and circadian interventions can unlock deeper healing than most realize. He shares striking real-world outcomes for himself and patients, the overlooked dangers of blue light, and actionable strategies anyone can use to improve energy and sleep.

Tune in to this episode of the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast to learn why most snoring and sleep issues are not just airway problems—how fixing your light environment could transform your health, and why Dr. Cohen thinks every sleep practitioner must finally integrate quantum biology into their practice.

5 Key Takeaways

1. See the sunrise daily—anchor your circadian rhythm and ignite your body’s natural healing systems.
2. Get outside and absorb natural sunlight whenever possible—even brief exposure boosts mitochondrial function and reduces inflammation.
3. Ditch blue light at night—wear blue light blocking glasses and minimize screen use to protect deep sleep and repair.
4. Track your own data—use tools like a continuous glucose monitor and snore lab app to discover patterns between lifestyle, food, and sleep quality.
5. Challenge the status quo—ask practitioners about root causes, not just anatomy; holistic approaches integrating light, energy, and environment can solve what procedures alone cannot.

Memorable Quotes"If you just fix anatomy and someone has a metabolic issue, you have the potential of making them worse. The body, when it's inflamed, does not want more oxygen—it wants to get rid of oxygen.""In order for a patient to have true skin in the game, they have to understand all of their options. We have an anatomic box, we have a metabolic box, and we can work on them both together or separately—but I don’t think just looking at anatomy and ignoring the metabolic is enough.""If you get the proper light signals, your brain starts making dopamine and serotonin on its own. You don’t need an external stimulus; you’re making it naturally. That’s what’s so crushing to me, seeing kids with anxiety, depression, and learning disorders when so much of this is tied to light."Connect with Dr Andrew Cohen

Website: https://www.sleephealthypa.com/what-sets-us-apart/meet-the-doctor/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555149623114

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andrewcohen_dmd/

Resources Mentioned

SPEAR Education (Advanced Dental Education Center) - https://www.speareducation.com/

Airway Health Solutions (Residency & resources for sleep disorder professionals) - https://airwayhealthsolutions.com/

SnoreLab (Snoring and sleep tracking app) - https://www.snorelab.com/

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In this episode, Meredith Oke and Nikko Kennedy discuss the emerging field of quantum biology, its academic roots, and its practical applications in health and wellness. They explore the significance of light and circadian rhythms in health, the differences between academic and applied quantum biology, and the potential for personalized medicine. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community and research in advancing the field, encouraging practitioners to contribute to the literature and engage with the growing body of knowledge.

For details on the Applied Quantum Biology Certification: https://www.iaqb.foundation/aqb-certification

For details on the Practice Based Research Accelerator: https://iaqb.kit.com/practicebasedresearchnetwork

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