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Ever wondered how elite mountain athletes transition between winter and summer sports at the highest level? Cam Smith, one of mountain running's most versatile competitors, takes us behind the curtain on his journey from a winter of Olympic-qualifying ski mountaineering races to the upcoming Sunapee Mountain Running Championship.

The conversation kicks off with a light-hearted revelation about Smith's off-season consumption of exactly 200 croissants—a feat that earned him a free jacket! But beneath this playful start lies a fascinating exploration of athletic transformation. Smith describes how he completely overhauled his training approach for the winter ski season, reducing volume to 60% while significantly increasing intensity to excel in seven-minute relay efforts critical for Olympic qualification.

With the USA team sitting just one point behind Canada in World Cup rankings, Smith reveals everything comes down to a single December competition that will determine which North American nation secures an Olympic berth. The pressure couldn't be higher, yet Smith approaches this challenge with remarkable perspective: "I want it badly... but I know that I'll just move on to what's next, regardless."

What makes this conversation particularly compelling is Smith's candid assessment of his current fitness as he transitions back to trail running. Coming directly from competing in Europe at lower elevations to training in Crested Butte at nearly 9,000 feet creates unique physiological challenges. Despite uncertainty about how he'll perform at Sunapee, Smith embraces the high-stakes environment: "I love high pressure races... that do-or-die mentality, and I trust that I'll be ready when the moment comes."

Perhaps most moving is Smith's reflection on what representing the United States internationally means to him. Having previously made the mountain running team, he describes wearing the USA jersey as "a childhood dream come true" that offered a second chance at fulfilling a lifelong ambition that once seemed impossible.

Ready to dive deeper into the mind of an elite mountain athlete balancing Olympic dreams with present-moment focus? Listen now to this conversation that bridges disciplines, explores mental resilience, and reveals what it truly means to compete at the highest level in mountain sports.

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The mountains beckon, and Anna Gibson answers with a fresh approach to trail running excellence. Coming off an impressive 11th place finish at the prestigious Zagama mountain marathon in Spain, Gibson shares what it's like to race through corridors of 100,000 screaming fans while tackling 9,000 feet of elevation gain.

What makes Gibson's success particularly fascinating is her training philosophy. Unlike many elite trail runners, she thrives on remarkably low mileage—typically just 40-45 weekly running miles—supplemented with strategic cycling sessions. "If I can go for two or three-hour bike rides in a week, that's six hours of training that I could not run," she explains, revealing how this cross-training approach allows her to build tremendous aerobic capacity without breaking down her body. Even when preparing for her marathon-distance race at Zagama, she topped out at just 60 miles in her highest week ever.

Working with renowned coach David Roche has helped Gibson develop this personalized approach. Their relationship embodies mutual trust, with Roche pushing her at precisely the right moments while giving her freedom to adapt the training as needed. Gibson candidly discusses her upcoming race at Sunapee, which serves as the US selection race for the Mountain Running World Championships. At 26, despite international success, she has yet to represent the United States at Worlds—something she hopes to change by qualifying for both the Vertical Kilometer and Mountain Classic teams.

As trail running continues to professionalize, Gibson offers a glimpse into this evolution through her experience with Brooks, describing their comprehensive team approach where athletes travel together and receive extensive support at international races. She also touches on her future plans, including maintaining her track career alongside her trail endeavors, showcasing the versatility that makes her one of the sport's most exciting talents.

Tune in to hear how this rising star balances multiple disciplines, navigates international racing, and approaches the challenges of competing at the highest level in mountain running.

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Sydney Petersen stands at the threshold of a defining moment in her trail running career as she prepares for the Sunapee Scramble—a race that could earn her a coveted spot on Team USA. In this candid pre-race conversation, she opens up about her journey, aspirations, and the meticulous preparation leading up to this pivotal competition.

Fresh from attending the Brooks Summit with what she describes as "the most stacked trail team in the world," Sydney offers unique insights into the professional side of trail running. Her training build has been comprehensive, mixing tempo runs and flat speed work while waiting for mountain trails to melt, then transitioning to technical terrain work as conditions improved. A recent 20-mile effort—her longest run ever—has provided a crucial confidence boost heading into race week.

Sydney's refreshing perspective on race strategy reveals the mind of an elite athlete who has learned from experience: "Every time I go into a race with a really concrete plan, it never turns out well for me." Instead, she emphasizes presence, adaptability, and responding to the flow of competition in the moment. This approach seems particularly well-suited for the unpredictable nature of the Sunapee course and its formidable field of competitors, including aggressive front-runners like Allie McLaughlin.

When asked about her preference for race day conditions, her answer speaks volumes about her mental toughness: "The poorer the conditions are and just the gnarlier it is, the better." Training in the extreme climate of Colorado's Gunnison Valley at 9,000 feet has prepared her to embrace rather than fear challenging environments.

Listen in as Sydney discusses the emotional significance of potentially making Team USA after coming close but falling short of goals throughout her running career, her equipment choices for the technical East Coast trails, and her ambitious plans for the season beyond Sunapee—including competing in both events at the ultra-competitive Broken Arrow Skyrace. Her journey represents the evolving landscape of American trail running as it continues to attract world-class talent and global attention.

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From track workouts to technical mountain trails, Flannery Davis Love defies conventional categorization. The current record holder on Colorado's iconic Long's Peak joins the Steep Stuff Podcast to share her unique approach to the upcoming Sunapee Scramble US Mountain Running Championship.

Flannery takes us inside her training methodology that seamlessly blends road marathoning with mountain athleticism. Rather than abandoning speed for the trails, she recently completed a "mini speed roadblock" including her first-ever track 5K at Stanford before transitioning to more specific trail workouts. This hybrid approach has her discovering that road speed translates remarkably well to downhill trail sections, while she continues working on what she considers her weakness – pushing the pace during uphill hiking sections.

The conversation dives deep into race strategy for Sunapee's challenging two-loop course. Drawing on her experience from Cirque Series races like Snowbird, Flannery reveals her plan to use the first loop as a controlled threshold effort before truly racing the second loop. "I do better later in races... it just takes me a while to really warm up and get into something," she explains, offering valuable tactical insights for listeners approaching similar race formats.

When asked what making Team USA would mean, Flannery shares a surprisingly poignant childhood connection: "I was that kid growing up where you'd ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I'd say I want to play for Team USA. But I wasn't talking about running, I was talking about soccer." Her journey from soccer dreams to elite mountain running showcases how athletic aspirations evolve in unexpected and beautiful ways.

Join host James Lauriello for this candid conversation about balancing multiple racing disciplines, adapting to East Coast humidity, and the ambitious calendar ahead that includes Broken Arrow and potentially the Berlin Marathon. Whether you're crossing over between road and trail or simply fascinated by high-performance mountain athletes, Flannery's practical wisdom and refreshing honesty offer something for every runner to take to the mountains.

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Ever wonder what happens when you take a collegiate mile record holder and unleash her on mountain trails? Sophie Wright is showing us exactly that as she transitions from Western Washington University track star to mountain running phenom. Fresh off her selection to the 2025 Trail Team Elite Team, Sophie joins the Steep Stuff Podcast to discuss her approach to the upcoming Sun of Peace Scramble race.

With a resume that includes the mile record at her university, a top-five finish at the legendary Mount Marathon race, and an overall win at Cirque Series Alyaska, Sophie brings serious credentials to this qualifying event. What makes her story particularly fascinating is the contrast between her track background and her growing prowess on technical mountain terrain. "I've been trying to get out of that mentality from college running where every hard workout is on the track," Sophie explains, detailing how she's focused on accumulating vertical gain and threshold training rather than traditional speed work.

The Sun of Peace Scramble's unique double-loop format presents strategic challenges, with Sophie planning to "stay calm and collected" on the first loop before attacking the more technical second section. Despite never having raced on East Coast trails, her confidence stems from years navigating Alaska's notoriously challenging mountain routes. Her goal? A top-four finish that would earn her a spot representing Team USA, a lifelong dream. "I do want to race hard for everyone who has helped me grow up to be this runner," she shares, capturing the blend of personal ambition and community gratitude that fuels her running. As Sophie prepares to relocate to Colorado immediately after the race, we're witnessing the exciting evolution of a rising trail running star who refuses to place limits on what she can achieve. Subscribe now to follow Sophie's journey and hear more compelling stories from the trail running world.

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Have you ever wondered how elite mountain runners balance their athletic pursuits with demanding professional careers? In this captivating episode, we dive deep with Jamie Brusa, a PhD marine biologist who doubles as one of the top competitors in the Cirque Series mountain races.

Jamie shares her fascinating journey from middle school runner who feared distance events to collegiate track athlete at the University of Illinois, and eventually to becoming an elite mountain runner. What makes her story particularly compelling is how she navigates two seemingly disconnected worlds - analyzing North Atlantic right whale movements from her computer in Montana while training for some of the most challenging mountain races in the country.

The conversation reveals powerful insights about the complementary relationship between intellectual and physical pursuits. Jamie explains how running provides essential mental breaks from complex statistical problems, while her scientific approach to problem-solving enhances her training. Her refreshing philosophy on goal-setting challenges conventional wisdom, distinguishing between goals and desires to maintain a positive mindset regardless of race outcomes.

We explore the nuts and bolts of Jamie's training approach, her preparation for the upcoming USA Mountain Running Championships at Sunapee, and how she manages to compete at an elite level while balancing a full-time scientific career. For anyone juggling multiple passions or seeking to understand how different life pursuits can enhance rather than compete with each other, this episode offers valuable wisdom from someone who's mastered the balance.

Subscribe and join us for more conversations with remarkable athletes who are redefining what's possible both on and off the mountain trails.

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Lauren Gregory's meteoric rise in trail running has been anything but straightforward. From contemplating quitting mid-season to standing on podiums at major races, her journey exemplifies the rollercoaster nature of elite athletics.

Speaking from Boulder, Colorado—a place she calls home—Lauren opens up about managing an Achilles injury that has forced her to adapt her training. Rather than viewing this setback as purely negative, she's discovered unexpected benefits from cross-training on the bike: "It's nice when the cross-train doesn't take from your soul." Most surprisingly, she's found her hiking ability—previously a weakness—has improved dramatically, potentially giving her an edge on technical uphill sections.

As the conversation shifts to race strategy for upcoming championships at Sunapee and Broken Arrow, Lauren reveals her thoughtful approach to two-loop courses. "The expectation is to make the team; the goal is to win," she says with remarkable clarity. This balanced perspective comes despite the pressure of following up her breakthrough 2023 season, which culminated in podium finishes at Headlands and the Golden Trail World Series final.

Working with coach Ben True, Lauren has fully committed to trail running after transitioning from track. Her training philosophy emphasizes quality over quantity in racing: "I'd rather under race seasons than over race." While ultra distances intrigue her, she respects the progression required, planning to "add an hour every year" to her racing distances.

What emerges is a portrait of an athlete who combines natural talent with strategic thinking and self-awareness. Despite being young in the sport, Lauren demonstrates wisdom in her training decisions, recovery priorities, and career planning that suggests she'll be a force in trail running for years to come.

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Rachel Tomajczyk pulls back the curtain on elite mountain running preparation in this compelling pre-Sunapee Scramble conversation. With multiple World Championship appearances under her belt, Rachel's approach to race preparation reveals the scientific precision that separates good mountain runners from the truly elite.

The fascinating physiological discussion around altitude adaptation offers breakthrough insights for athletes at all levels. Rachel articulates how different limiting factors—aerobic capacity versus leg strength—should dictate training approaches. Her nuanced understanding explains why simply training high and racing low isn't always the optimal strategy. Those struggling with power generation might actually benefit from specific lower-elevation training blocks to develop explosive strength, while athletes limited by breathing efficiency gain more from altitude adaptations.

Technical trail mastery emerges as another critical element, with Rachel detailing her methodical approach to conquering unfamiliar terrain. The stark contrast between Western technical trails (sharp rocks, cacti) and East Coast challenges (roots, moss, steep grassy slopes) requires specific preparation strategies. Her practice of arriving days early to mentally map technical sections demonstrates the psychological preparation that complements physical training. This level of detail in course preparation reveals why Rachel has consistently performed at the highest levels across varying terrain types throughout her career. 

The conversation provides a rare glimpse into the mindset of an athlete performing at the sport's pinnacle. When discussing what another Team USA qualification would mean, Rachel's respect for the depth of American mountain running talent reminds us just how competitive this sport has become. Subscribe to hear more pre-Sunapee conversations with elite athletes as they prepare for one of mountain running's most significant qualification events of the season.

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David Norris might just be the most versatile endurance athlete you haven't heard enough about. The Alaskan-born mountain marathon record holder brings an Olympic-level Nordic skiing engine to the trails, creating a unique skill set that makes him a formidable competitor at the upcoming Sunapee Scramble World Team Trials.

What stands out immediately about Norris is his refreshingly balanced approach to both life and sport. While maintaining a full-time banking career, he trains at an elite level, embracing not just running but also mountain biking and gravel cycling. "Just for pure joy and being outside, mountain biking and gravel riding is some of my favorite stuff to do in the summer," he explains, revealing how this multisport lifestyle stems from his cross-country skiing background where diverse training methods were the norm.

The conversation explores how Norris's skiing career created the perfect foundation for mountain running success. Years of training to "redline" at high lactate thresholds before recovering and pushing again translates beautifully to the mountain classic format where athletes max out on climbs before recovering on descents. This explains his dominance at events like Mount Marathon and his competitive performances against specialized runners at races like Cirque Series Brighton.

Perhaps most compelling is Norris's perspective on competition itself. After multiple heartbreaking near-misses as an Olympic alternate in skiing, he developed a profound understanding that "success comes from the pursuit of those goals, rather than just a true measurement of 'did I achieve these goals?'" This wisdom allows him to approach the World Team Trials with both serious preparation and genuine joy, focused on the process rather than putting pressure on specific outcomes.

Whether you're a competitive athlete yourself or simply appreciate authentic approaches to sport, Norris offers valuable insights on balancing ambition with enjoyment, specialized training with multisport variety, and professional obligations with athletic excellence. Listen now to discover why this mountain marathon champion might be about to make a significant impact on the international trail running scene.

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Ever wonder how elite runners approach championship races? Tyler McCandless, one of America's leading mountain runners, takes us deep into his preparation for the Sentipee Scramble US Mountain Running Championships in this illuminating conversation.

With Pennsylvania roots that perfectly prepared him for East Coast racing conditions, McCandless explains why many Western mountain runners struggle when heading east—while he thrives. "I love the hot, humid races," Tyler reveals, discussing how his background racing in Pennsylvania summers gives him a mental and physical edge that's proven decisive in previous championships. This unique adaptation to humidity and technical terrain positions him as a serious contender for this year's US Mountain Running team.

The conversation explores Tyler's impressive 20-week training block, consistently hitting 80-95 miles weekly while balancing family life and work responsibilities. What's particularly fascinating is his recent focus on improving downhill running through equipment changes and targeted training. "I found that especially for me, the downhills, I tend to feel more comfortable with a softer, more cushioned shoe that's still light," he shares, explaining how this simple adjustment has dramatically improved his recovery and performance on technical descents.

Perhaps most valuable is Tyler's strategic wisdom for approaching championship races. Rather than getting caught in the excitement of chasing the win, he maintains a laser focus on the ultimate goal: securing a top-four finish to qualify for the World Championships. This measured approach, combined with his exceptional fitness and experience, showcases the mindset that has made him a perennial podium threat.

Curious about how elite athletes prepare for championship events? Listen now to gain insights on everything from shoe selection to sauna recovery techniques that could transform your own approach to important races.

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