In this rendition of The Way Out, recovery cohost extraordinaire Jason has a tremendous interview with person in long term recovery and author, Joe Booth. Joe is absolutely phenomenal in what turned out to be an extraordinary conversation between he and Jason. We find out about Joe's life, addiction and of course, his Recovery. Joe goes deep with us on the recovery program he created with the help of some college professors and some good old-fashioned research. Formerly called Class V Mind, and now newly rebranded as Become by Oberit, this program is available online and through the Oberit App, where you get rewarded for developing healthy daily habits. One habit you’ll be glad you keep is listening to amazing interviews like this one featuring the one and only Joe Booth so listen up.

Contact Joe: [email protected]

Best piece of advice: "Trust the process" or "It works if you work it"

Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:

Buddhism & the Twelve Steps Daily Reflections: Thoughts on Dharma and Recovery: Griffin, Kevin - https://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Twelve-Steps-Daily-Reflections/dp/0999678914

From the River: A guidebook to sobriety from a lifetime of lessons paddling: Booth, Joe - https://www.amazon.com/River-guidebook-sobriety-lifetime-paddling/dp/0578677784

Recovery Resources:

Become recovery program: https://joinbecome.health/

Oberit daily habit rewards: https://www.getoberit.com/

Compris resilience self-assessment: https://www.compriscare.com/become

Adventure based guided meditations: https://joinbecome.health/get-adventure-meditations

Song that symbolizes recovery to Joe:

Spirit Bird by Xavier Rudd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yN6MR4XraY

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m at once extremely humbled and grateful to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and bonified poet, Melissa DeJesus. Melissa shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us, a journey in which Melissa endures enough Capitol T Trauma, Adverse Childhood Experiences or ACES, and loss for multiple lifetimes. Carl Jung once said “No Tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless it’s roots reach down to hell” and Gabor Mate is credited with coining the phrase “Ask, not why the addiction, but why the pain” two quotes that are quite apropos for many of us and certainly no more so than with Melissa. Perhaps the most beautiful gifts to come out of Melissa’s recovery are the Capital T Truth both Recovery and Spiritual she’s learned and indeed shares in this very interview, and her poetry, which has taken on new meaning in her Recovery and to that end I am beyond honored to share with you all one of Melissa’s original poems delivered by none other than Melissa DeJesus herself followed immediately by my interview with Melissa in its entirety, so listen up.

Melissa’s Poetry:

https://www.amazon.com/Poems-Addict-Inside-Melissa-DeJesus-ebook/dp/B0B4FWBD9S?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations:

How it Works and Why:

http://www.coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/h_w.pdf

Living Clean:

https://www.recoveryshop.com/Living-Clean-NA-Book-p/nabk5.htm

Best Piece of Recovery Advice - It's OK not to be OK

Song that Symbolizes Recovery - Save Me by Jelly Roll:

https://youtu.be/FxFNprPOdss

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m beyond excited to bring you my interview with award winning director and producer and founder of Emmy-nominated People People Media, Jared Callahan. A quick note before we proceed: Much to my chagrin and surprise I discovered after this interview that inexplicably my default recording microphone on my podcasting rig reverted to – insert gasp here – the microphone built into my webcam. As horrified as I was at the discovery, you can still hear yours truly just fine despite the sub-par webcam mic and you can hear Jared just fine despite the internet gremlins on his end, and it afforded me a few opportunities in light of this unfortunate turn of events. First, as my fiancée said to me after watching me have a near meltdown and listening to the raw audio, “it’s fine, it doesn't sound that bad at all” – I realized my podcasting ego was making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually was and the goal of this podcast is not audiophile perfection but to bring you powerful recovery stories and recovery power topics to jumpstart or reenergize your recovery. Second, and not for nothing it pushed me to level up my post production and audio editing game to a new level to message the audio for a more pleasant listening experience. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming, which is my interview with Jared Callahan about his new Project “Clean Slate”. I must confess I did not watch the film before interviewing Jared and I’m glad I didn’t because as a result this interview is 100 % certified spoiler free. I was so excited to watch the film after our interview I legit rented it immediately and watched it while working out that very night. This film is unequivocally the best documentary on addiction and recovery I’ve seen to date. Clean Slate does a marvelous job in telling a story about how real folks in Recovery go from step zero to step one and this film goes a long way to allow those who experience addiction in their own lives to be seen and enable those who don’t to develop compassion and empathy for those who do, and that perhaps is one of the most noble missions of all so listen up.

More about Jared and People People Media:

https://www.peoplepeoplemedia.com/

Movie Recommendations:

American Movie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Movie

Fight Club - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Club

Advice - You are worth it, and recovery is worth it. You are not defined by your worst moment.

Song – Listen 5 minutes before the end of the film Clean Slate!

Book a screening - https://www.jaredcallahan.com/contact

Buy or Rent Clean Slate:

https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Slate-Cassidy-Detmer/dp/B0B8T1VWJD

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid and indeed tremendous cohost Jason had the amazing opportunity to share space with the creator of the Recovery Soulfood Podcast, Reverend Lona Currie, or LC as those who know him are fond of calling him. LC is a transgender mentor and a seemingly bottomless well of recovery wisdom and spiritual truth. Learning about LC's life will no doubt at once inspire, enlighten, and fascinate all who listen. His heart for the world is so big! You simply can't help but be inspired by the journey that brought him to where he's at today so listen up.

Contact LC and other resources:

https://www.facebook.com/LCrecoverysoulfood?mibextid=LQQJ4d

https://www.youtube.com/@RecoverySoulfood

Instagram @ecovery_soulfood (this is my contact info-DM)

TikTok @RecoverySoulfood

Best piece of Recovery Advice: "You can only grow to your environment"

Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:

The Twelve Universal Laws of Success: Herbert Harris:Chr

https://www.amazon.com/Twelve-Universal-Laws-Success/dp/0974836214

Song that symbolizes recovery to LC:

The Greatest Showman Cast - This Is Me (Official Lyric Video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxugyZCfuw

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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A long overdue and spectacular interview Jason and Charlie had with person in long term recovery, Faith, Recovery & Music Podcast cohost and founder and CEO of Spirits at Rest, Jeremy Gerres. Jeremy shares his amazing journey to & through #Recovery to this point with both Charlie & Jason in our first in studio interview in over 2 years! Jeremy is a true powerhouse in his local Recovery community

Contact Jeremy: https://spiritsatrest.com/contact-us 

Spirits at Rest: https://spiritsatrest.com/ 

Faith, Recovery & Music Podcast: https://www.faithrecoverymusic.com/ 

Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations: 

A.A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book 

The Secret by Rhonda Byrne - https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Rhonda-Byrne/dp/1582701709 

Best Piece of Recovery Advice - Whether you think you can or you think you can't you're right - Henry Ford 

Songs that Symbolizes Recovery: Living Life by the Drop by Stevie Ray Vaughan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZPMScX9-k 

That's why I'm Here by Kenny Chensney - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqo0aVgKHRo 

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! 

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz 

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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m absolutely thrilled to bring you a tremendous interview I had the pleasure of having with person in long term recovery and author of the new book Addicted in Film: Movies We Love About the Habits We Hate, Ted Perkins. Ted shares his journey to and through recovery to this point and how both smart recovery and how watching films about addiction and recovery in his early recovery – over 100 films in 100 days to be more precise – was instrumental to his recovery for what amounted to a few key reasons. The first reason and definitely one that’s near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out, is that films are at their very core are telling a story, in this specific case, about addiction or recovery or both, and stories are how we humans evolved to learn, grow, and connect to each other. Stories help us understand our shared history and how we persevere and overcome all manner of hardship and adversity. At their best, stories captivate us, and we cannot help but connect to the characters, and they carry within them essential truth, wisdom and hope - which is precisely what we’re doing on the regular here with The Way Out Podcast. The second, and not insignificant, is that the film occupied the time that was spent drinking with something positive and productive. Idle time and boredom, especially in early recovery, can be a daunting situation to contend with. Replacing that time with positive and healthy activities that improve our minds, bodies, and spirits goes along way in laying the foundation for an enduring and rewarding life in recovery. Third and arguably most instructive from a recovery perspective, is what films and the stories they tell, tell us about ourselves, which, just like the heroes in our movies, we can reckon with our own demons and get honest about them, whatever they are and then we can overcome them in order to become the people we always knew, deep down inside we can be or the people we ultimately determine we want to be. Recovery stories inspire us to truly believe we too can recover and become heroes of our own stories by stepping into our innate skills, gifts, and abilities to connect to and help ourselves and others. Indeed as Ted so insightfully tells us, our lives can indeed imitate art or a powerful recovery story that you might just hear in the rooms of recovery, or on your favorite recovery podcast like Ted’s story on this here podcast which is about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.

Contact Ted and Learn More About the Book and the Movie Club:

www.addictedinfilm.com

Best Addiction and Recovery Movies:

The Lost Weekend | Thanks for Sharing

Best piece of recovery advice - Recovery is a muscle or skill, it takes practice

Song Perfect Day by Lou Reed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxI4KK9ZYo

Duran Duran Version:

https://youtu.be/48YIGqvpXNE

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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In this rendition of The Way Out I am beyond excited to bring you a highly entertaining and enlightening interview I had with person in long term recovery, author, speaker, educator, and all-around sobriety and mental health advocate Daniel Patterson. Daniel shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with an unmistakable candor along with a refreshing dose of levity that helps to underscore the overarching Recovery truths that are embodied within Daniel’s recovery story and message which are in large part that Recovery is an individual journey, all pathways to recovery matter, and we recover the best when we recover together. Our recovery journey is as unique as we are and if it works for us it’s valid and worth sharing with others as much and as often as we feel comfortable doing so, as your particular brand of recovery might just work for some other folks too. There are indeed also universal recovery and spiritual truths like self-honesty, asking for help, and helping others that unite all pathways to recovery, just like we as humans are very much connected by universal experiences like pain, joy, grief and love. Daniel’s Recovery journey has led him to do amazing things in the Recovery and Mental Health space, like building sober high schools across the country, speaking at schools, being a Recovery Tik Tok sensation, and now hosting the Sobriety Uncensored Podcast which is an endeavor near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast Our Uncensored interview with Daniel and all of the spiritual and recovery truth embodied within is about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.

More about Daniel Patterson:

https://linktr.ee/pattersonperspective

Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:

The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday - https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Stoic-Meditations-Wisdom-Perseverance/dp/0735211736

The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz - https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319

Best piece of Recovery advice: Comparison is the thief of joy

Songs that symbolize Recovery:

Float on by Modest Mouse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAud5O7Qqk

Shadow Days by John Mayer - https://youtu.be/_uOsXUsZdTc

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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In this edition of The Way Out I’m absolutely ecstatic and honored to bring you my interview with person in long term Recovery and all-around amazing human being, Carrie Wessling from Costa Rica Recovery. Carrie shares her journey to and through Recovery to this point with unmitigated candor and her story pardon the pun, carries an undeniable truth, which is no matter how many times we’ve tried to achieve meaningful and enduring recovery and fell short, there’s always hope for us so long as we’re still breathing. Recovery is not just possible for us, it’s available to anyone who truly wants it and is willing to lean in and do the hard work that’s required of us to truly get well, and when we find ourselves on that recovery and wellness journey, we’ll discover how truly rewarding life can be and Carrie’s story is proof positive of just that so listen up.

Contact Carrie Wessling:

https://www.costaricarecovery.com/contact-us/

Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Drop the Rock:

https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/drop-the-rock-meaning

Advice - You're not a monster you're in pain

Song - Let it Be by the Beatles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYfEBY9NM4

More information on The Highly Sensitive Person:

https://hsperson.com/

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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In this installment of The Way Out our intrepid recovery podcast cohost extraordinaire Jason brings us an outstanding interview where we get the privilege to get to know person in long term recovery, Sherry Gibson. By all rights Sherry should be dead a couple times over. Her journey to and through Recovery to this point and to God has been long and her message of hope is incredibly powerful. As they say... "Where there seems to be no way, God will make a way". Whether you consider yourself a religious person, spiritual person some combination of the two or neither spiritual or religious, Sherry’s story and message is chalked full of practical recovery wisdom and spiritual truth so listen up.

Contact Sherry Gibson on Facebook or at [email protected]

Resources:

Sherry offers biblical counseling free of charge!! Just contact her directly to connect!

Biblical counseling and training resources:

Chisagolakesbaptist.org OR Check churches in your area

Book Recommendations: The Bible

Addictions: A Banquet in the Grave: Finding Hope in the Power of the Gospel (Resources for Changing Lives): Welch, Edward T

https://www.amazon.com/Addictions-Banquet-Finding-Resources-Changing/dp/0875526063/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IOAT0FM12DHY&keywords=a+banquet+in+the+grave&qid=1661131270&sprefix=a+banquet%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-1

Trusting God: Bridges, Jerry:

https://www.amazon.com/Trusting-God-Jerry-Bridges/dp/1631467921/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ARQPCA59IZTH&keywords=trusting+god+by+jerry+bridges&qid=1661131320&sprefix=Trusting+god%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1

Best advice: "Be honest and transparent"

"Pay attention to the H.A.L.T."

Song that symbolizes recovery:

Blessings by Laura Story - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blessings+laura+story

Matthew West - Hello, My Name Is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuJWQzjfU3o

Matthew West - Broken Things - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdUu6ZsdVfM

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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