Let's talk Thingies with Monica Khemsurov & Jill Singer! They're the masterminds behind Sight Unseen, our go-to design resource since 2009, and the authors of the new book How to Live with Objects that has helpful tips aplenty (along with ample inspiration). Plus: a hate-gift idea and a belated love letter to Normal People.

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Monica and Jill's book How to Live with Objects is out now! Wow, is it great—and what an ideal present for the "person who has everything" type.

Their Thingies, coming through: oversize decor, miniature fountains (Monica's is from Lily Clark.), only buying the best version of a consumable something (Jill loves the Marie Veronique Barrier Lipid Complex, rice from The Rice Factory New York, and Glaser Organic Farms Almond Butter.), microwaves (David Chang Cooking at Home and Anyday cookware fans unite!), and saved search terms when exploring vintage objects.

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