The Secure Love Podcast with Julie Menanno

Unraveling the Roots of the Negative Cycle Pt. 2


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This week's episode of The Secure Love Podcast opens with Drew reflecting on the early years of their marriage. His reflection leads to a heartfelt apology to Melissa for not showing up the way she needed, eliciting both an emotional reaction and a tremendous sense of relief for her. This moment of understanding and Drew's willingness to own his part in their past disconnect highlights his growth, yet Julie points out that this is still within the bounds of their 'negative cycle'. Drew's efforts, though well-intentioned, stem from a partial grasp of the underlying issues, including his unprocessed grief, fears about loss, and struggles with vulnerability.

Julie guides the couple through understanding how Drew's past experiences of loss and his inability to seek help have shaped his responses to Melissa's needs. In this episode, we also hear from Julie's longtime colleague, George Faller, who provides insight into what Drew has been experiencing. Although Drew apologized to Melissa for not being emotionally available in those early years, George highlights that Drew hasn't had much experience sharing his emotions, which also means he doesn't have much experience having his own emotions validated.

Make no doubt about it, Drew's apology and acknowledgment is huge for their relationship. However, as the avoidant partner, what will it take for Drew to truly connect with his deepest fears and embrace vulnerability.  

As the episode unfolds, Julie challenges Drew to genuinely connect with his deeper fears and insecurities. This pivot in therapy aims to equip Drew with the tools to support Melissa more effectively, acknowledging that truly supportive relationships require both partners to engage deeply with their own vulnerabilities.

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