We Can Do Hard Things

In this beautiful conversation–in which Glennon names Cole’s book “This Here Flesh” the Next Right Book–we discuss: 

1. What we learned from Cole’s insight that, “If you’re not in your body, someone else is.” 

2. A mind-blowing revelation about all of our own faces that we will never stop thinking about. 

3. Why the phrase “If you don’t believe you’re beautiful, no one else will” is horseshit.  

4. Why dignity is the bedrock to being alive–and how to find it when we haven’t been loved well. 

5. The connection between fear and awe–and how to practice wonder as a cure for despair. 

About Cole: 

Cole Arthur Riley is a writer and poet. She is the author of the NYT bestseller, This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation, and the Stories that Make Us. Her writing has been featured in The Atlantic, Guernica, and The Washington Post. Cole is also the creator and writer of Black Liturgies, a project that integrates spiritual practice with Black emotion, Black literature, and the Black body. 

TW: @blackliturgist

IG: @colearthurriley @blackliturgies

375. How to Stop Worrying with Martha Beck

Martha Beck shares more on how to lessen anxiety’s grip by coaching Amanda, Abby and Glennon out of their anxiety spirals.

Discover: 

-How to uncover the heart of your deepest fear

-How to tell whether something is truly enlightening or dangerously false

-The surprising power of living in a state of “I don’t know”

Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now.

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda help us shed guilt through a freeing reframe inspired by a conversation with Dr. Becky Kennedy.

Listen to learn: How to know what is true guilt and what is just the uncomfortable ickiness of defying expectations; how to hold boundaries in order to live shamelessly within our own values; and how to maintain empathy by staying with our own emotions instead of internalizing the emotions of others. 

Also, we need your help inventing a word for the “not guilt” feeling! 

Get Dr. Becky Kennedy's "Good Inside Guilt Guide," to find out if what you're feeling is truly "guilt" or something else, here: https://forms.gle/Aad1g5LSBNFZoXaN6.

Check out our past conversations with Dr. Becky Kennedy, and the Dr. Brené Brown episodes we talk about today: 

Ep 170 The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy;

Ep 169 Why We Love the Way We Love: Attachment Styles with Dr. Becky Kennedy; 

Ep 131 How to Raise Untamed Kids with Dr. Becky Kennedy; 

Ep 130 Breaking Cycles and Reparenting Yourself with Dr. Becky Kennedy;

Ep 88 Brené Brown & Barrett Guillen: Sisters Double Date;

Ep 83 Brené Brown: What to Say to Get What You Need;

Ep 49 Dr. Brené Brown: On Holding Boundaries & Facing Our Fears; and 

Ep 48 Dr. Brené Brown: How to Know Ourselves & Be Known By Our People.

374. Life Beyond Anxiety with Martha Beck

Martha Beck, bestselling author and life coach, returns to discuss anxiety including actionable strategies for quelling it and achieving a state of calm. This episode is part one of two. Come back next time, to hear Martha coach Amanda, Abby and Glennon out of an anxiety spiral. 

Discover: 

-The one powerful question to ask yourself to start breaking free from anxiety

-Martha’s surprising take on the antidote to anxiety

-The biggest lie anxiety tells us—and how to uncover the truth

-Why nature, creativity, and your senses hold the key to calm

Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now.

1. Five signs that you might have a boundary problem.

2. Why each of us should stop pretending we’re not a needy person.

3. How to stop arguing like a lawyer – and start communicating like a kindergartener – to get what you need. 

4. How to know when to end an argument, how to exit a friendship, and how to respond to passive aggressiveness. 

About Nedra:

Nedra Glover Tawwab, MSW, LCSW, is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. She has practiced relationship therapy for 15 years and is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Kaleidoscope Counseling. Every day she helps people create healthy relationships by teaching them how to implement boundaries. Her philosophy is that a lack of boundaries and assertiveness underlie most relationship issues, and her gift is helping people create healthy relationships with themselves and others.

Nedra earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Wayne State University in Detroit, MI. She has additional certifications in working with families and couples and in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, plus advanced training for counseling adults who've experienced childhood emotional neglect.

Nedra has appeared as an expert on Red Table Talk, The Breakfast Club, Good Morning America, and CBS Morning Show to name a few. Her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Guardian, and Vice and has appeared on numerous podcasts, including Good Life Project, Sofia with an F, and Therapy For Black Girls. She runs a popular Instagram account where she shares practices, tools, and reflections for mental health and hosts weekly Q&As.

TW: @NedraTawwab

IG: @nedratawwab

373. Mel Robbins: Your Life-Changing “LET THEM!” Tool for the New Year

Mel Robbins joins Abby, Glennon, and Amanda to discuss the power of focusing on what we can control, and the liberation that comes from letting go of what we can't control. 

Discover:

-The three things you can always control—and why they’re the key to happiness

-The best way to handle a narcissist without losing your peace

-The one question that can spark real change in anyone 

-Why pressuring the people you love will never work—and the better approach

More on Mel: Mel Robbins is a New York Times best-selling author and a world-renowned expert on mindset, motivation, and behavior change. With millions of books sold, seven #1 Audible titles, and billions of video views, Mel’s impact is truly global. As the host of The Mel Robbins Podcast, the Webby and Signal Award-winning #1 education podcast. She was named one of Forbes' 50 Over 50 and serves on the board of directors of Amplify Publishing. The Let Them Theory is her newest book and is out now.

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1. The moment Abby – as Christen’s USWNT roommate – walked into their hotel room and knew Christen was very different than any soccer player she’d ever known. 

2. The boundary that helps Christen love her people while protecting herself.

3. Christen’s take on death and how to keep the people we’ve lost alive in our lives.

4. How to show our people (including our little athletes) that we love them for who they are, not what they achieve.

5. The day Christen knew she was ready to fight for – and win – pay equity for the US Women’s National Team. 

About Christen:

Christen Press is a two-time World Cup Champion and Olympian, as well as a leading forward at Los Angeles Angel City FC. An entrepreneur and advocate for inclusivity, Christen, along with US Women’s National teammates – Megan Rapinoe, Tobin Heath, and Meghan Klingenberg – launched their company re—inc, a purpose-driven, global lifestyle brand. Christen was one of the key players leading the charge for the “Equal Play, Equal Pay” campaign to highlight the pay discrepancy between the women’s and men’s national teams, which led to the new CBA agreement – and to her role as Player Representative for the US Women's National Team Players Association.

IG: @christenpress

Amanda, Glennon and Abby explore how to survive the lifelong, universal pain of being left out:

Also check out Episode 179: How to Fix Our Loneliness with Dr. Marisa G. Franco

1. Abby shares with Sara the great personal impact Sara’s music has made on her life.

2. Sara and Glennon bond over the joy of solitude, the underrated gifts of being heavy-hearted, and the fact that “there are too many things to be worried about at all times” to be lighthearted.

3. When you are in deep stress, do you try to sabotage your job, relationship, etc.? (Before this conversation, Amanda thought it was just her.)

4. How playfulness and joy – connecting to the little kid who grew up into you – are vital to loving yourself. 

5. Sara’s beautiful journey with medication for depression and anxiety – and how she learned her anxiety often arises from an unexpressed need. 

About Sara:

Sara Bareilles is a Tony Award and Emmy Award nominated actor, and Grammy Award winning singer and songwriter.

On Broadway, Sara composed music and lyrics for Waitress, in which she was also the lead. Sara also produced original music and executive produced the musical drama series Little Voice. She plays Dawn Solano on the Emmy-nominated musical comedy series Girls5eva, and stars as The Baker’s Wife in the Broadway revival Into the Woods.

TW: @SaraBareilles

IG: @sarabareilles

Glennon, Abby, Amanda and the Pod Squad share their most brutiful and hilarious holiday stories.