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Kelly has found a moisturiser that's completely shifted her perspective on what good skincare actually costs, while Leigh is indulging in a cleansing ritual that feels like a daily spa treatment. Your shopping cart is about to look very different after this one.

We're diving into game-changing serums with serious staying power, foolproof brow formulas for the chronically face-touchy, and discovering when luxury price tags actually translate to luxury experiences. Plus, we're celebrating an incredible launch from within our own community that's got us genuinely excited about supporting homegrown talent! 

SPENDY:

Leigh: Trinny London Skin Vitality Elixir "Take Back Time" $165
Kelly: 111SKIN Harley Street London Deep Cleansing Oil $130

SAVEY:

Leigh:1000 Hour Brow Cushion Duo $24.99
Kelly: CeraVe Facial Moisturising Lotion $25

NEWBIES:

Leigh: Dayer Cosmetics Stand Still Oil Balancing Mist & Setting Spray $52
Kelly: Aeon Skin Flash Cellular Redemption Oil by Karlie Sophia $90 (50ml)

SMS/EMPTY:

Leigh: She Glam Good Grip Hydrating Primer Base $17.99
Kelly: Dr Dennis Gross Alpha Beta Universal Daily Peel $35 for 5 treatments

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren

Producer: Sophie Campbell

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

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The robots have officially infiltrated our makeup bags, and honestly, we're not mad about it! Sarah Marie and Kelly have just had their minds completely blown by their new AI beauty guru who's serving up personalised skincare routines, discount code treasure hunts, and celebrity makeup recreations with the efficiency of a beauty editor and the charm of your most knowledgeable friend!

Watch as Kelly gets a complete dry skin intervention from her newly-named digital bestie Luma, whilst Sarah Marie attempts to recreate Hailey Bieber's glazed goddess look, spoiler alert... Chat GBT has some pretty expensive taste!

LINKS TO ALL THE PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 

Kelly's Morning Skin Routine:

Cleansers:

Tatcha The Rice Wash Soft Cream Cleanser $70 

CeraVe Hydrating Cleanser $17.99

Toner/Essence:

 SK-II, Facial Treatment Essence $139

Hada Labo, Lotion No.1 Super Hydrator $36

Hydrating Serum:

Dr. Barbara Sturm, Hyaluronic Serum $518

The Ordinary, Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5 $14.30

Moisturiser: 

Augustinus Bader, The Rich Cream $297 

La Roche-Posay, Toleriane Riche $32.99

SPF:

Ultra Violette, Supreme Screen $52

Bondi Sands, SPF 50+ Fragrance Free Face Lotion  $16.99

Kelly's Night Routine:

Cleanser:

Banila Co, Clean It Zero Cleansing Balm $20

Hydrating Mist/Essence:

Avène Thermal, Spring Water Spray $19.99

Hydrating Mist/Essence: 

Estée Lauder, Advanced Night Repair $98

Barrier Repair Cream/Rich Moisturiser:

La Mer, Crème de la Mer $362 

Weleda Skin Food $28.96

CeraVe PM $25.99

Sarah Marie's Makeup Skin Routine:

Skin Prep:

Rhode, Glazing Milk $104.42

M·A·C Cosmetics, Hyper Real Serumizer $108

Embryolisse, Lait-Crème Concentré $28

Base:
Chanel, Les Beiges Eau De Teint Water Fresh Complexion Touch $117

Giorgio Armani, Luminous Silk Foundation $120

Rare Beauty, Liquid Touch Brightening Concealer $38

Westman Atelier, Vital Skincare Powder $131

Bronzer/Blush:

Makeup By Mario, Softsculpt Transforming Skin Enhancer $63

Rare Beauty, Soft Pinch Liquid Blush $45

Glow:

Charlotte Tilbury, Beauty Light Wand $60

Highlight:

Saie, Glowy Super Gel $47.42

Lisa Eldridge, Elevated Glow Highlighter

Eyes:

Tom Ford, Cream and Powder Eye Colour Naked Bronze $103

Charlotte Tilbury, Eyes To Mesmerise $50

Liner:

Victoria Beckham, Satin Kajal Liner in Cocoa $57

Mascara:

Lancôme, Lash Idole Mascara $66 

Brows:

Refy, Brow Sculpt $39

Benefit, Precisely My Eyebrow Pencil $48

Lips:

Charlotte Tilbury, Lip Cheat in Pillow Talk Medium $40

Summer Fridays, Lip Butter Balm in Pink Sugar $42

Dior, Addict Lip Glow Oil in Rosewood $65

Set:

M·A·C Cosmetics, Fix + Stay Over $59 

Charlotte Tilbury, Airbrush Flawless Setting Spray $56

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Sarah Marie Fahd & Kelly McCarren

Producer: Mollie Harwood & Sophie Campbell

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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With winter rolling in, we're seeing fresh beauty trends pop up everywhere - and naturally, we had to test them! Enter "cold girl makeup," the viral look that's been absolutely dominating feeds lately. The goal? Make your skin look like you've just come in from a brisk winter walk, all rosy and glowing without actually subjecting yourself to the cold.

Plus, Sarah-Marie tackles the cotton tip eyeshadow hack that's been flooding algorithms everywhere, promising beautiful blended ombré using just regular cotton tips - no fancy brushes needed. It's the kind of hack that makes you think "why didn't I know this sooner?" Spoiler alert: we're about to find out exactly why some trends stay on TikTok and don't make it to real life!

LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

Rare Beauty Warm Wishes Bronzer Stick $50

Morphe Cheek Thrills Multi Finish Face Trio $31

Charlotte Tilbury Beauty Light Wand $89

e.l.f Camo Liquid Blush $18

e.l.f Halo Glow $29

Anastasia Beverly Hills Foundation $76

Mecca Max Off Duty Liquid Highlighter $24

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You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Sarah Marie Fahd & Liv James

Producer: Sophie Campbell 

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Video Production: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Ready to unlock the secret to glowing skin? It might not be in your skincare cabinet – it's in your gut! In this absolutely fascinating episode, we're diving deep into the gut-skin axis with the incredible Carla Oates from The Beauty Chef. If you've ever wondered why your skin breaks out seemingly out of nowhere, or struggled with sensitivity and conditions like eczema, this conversation will be a total game-changer. Carla's personal journey from childhood eczema sufferer to gut health guru is both inspiring and eye-opening, proving that sometimes the best skincare routine starts from the inside out.

Whether you're a complete beginner to gut health or think you know it all, Carla breaks down the complex science of how your digestive system directly impacts your skin in the most accessible way. From understanding why certain foods trigger breakouts to learning how to heal your gut for clearer, healthier skin, you'll walk away feeling like a certified expert on the gut-skin connection. Trust us – this is the kind of conversation that will have you completely rethinking your approach to skincare and wellness.

LINKS TO THE PRODUCTS MENTIONED:

The Beauty Chef Gut Primer $75

The Beauty Chef Glow $69

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Kelly McCarren

Guest: Carla Oates - The Beauty Chef

Producer: Sophie Campbell

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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It's tax return season, which means "free money" for beauty products (even though it's definitely not free, but we're choosing to ignore that). This week, Kelly and Leigh are tackling your burning beauty questions while simultaneously questioning whether audits are worth celebrating with Mecca bronzer... they absolutely are!

We're diving into the great fragrance debate – should Cassidy ditch her signature scent just because her friends think it's too heavy for summer barbecues? Plus, Jane's turning 40 and wondering if she needs to completely overhaul her makeup routine. Don't miss Leigh's crazy find... stick-on toenails from Kmart and Kelly's hack for side sleepers who want heatless curls without the discomfort.

LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

SAEM Cover Perfection Tip Concealer $9.07

Rare Beauty Positive Light Under Eye Brightener $45

Revolution Beauty Conceal & Hydrate Concealer $12

Kmart Stick-On Toenails $5

Heatless Curl Tubes $2

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You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren

Producer: Mollie Harwood & Sophie Campbell

Audio Producer: Tina Matolov

Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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In this fashion bonus episode, Leigh Campbell chats with Instagram styling sensation Sally McKinnon about the subtle tweaks that transform merely wearing clothes into creating polished outfits.

Sally breaks down the current trends including why socks are having a major style moment with everything from ballet flats to sandals, the flattering silhouette of barrel leg jeans (which follow the natural curve of most women's bodies), and why having wardrobe "variety" is the real secret to great style.

They also dive into the versatility of matching sets for winter (think coordinated knits), why oversized blazers aren't going anywhere, and how the modern ballet flat has evolved from its uncomfortable predecessors. Plus, Sally shares both bougie and budget-friendly options for this season's must-have barrel jeans.

Check out Sally's previous episode about ageless dressing here.

BOUJIE & BUDGET PICKS:

Leigh's bougie pick:

UNIQLO Italian Leather Garrison Belt - $49.90

Leigh's budget pick:

BIG W The 1964 Denim Company Women's Oversized Jacket - $35

Sally's boujie pick:

LOEWE Barrel Leg Jeans (indigo blue)

Sally's budget pick:

Cotton On Barrel Leg Jeans (dark indigo) - $70

For more fashion ideas, check out The outfit combinations that will get you compliments with mimimal effort.

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CREDITS:

Host: Leigh Campbell

Guest: Sally McKinnon

Producer: Mollie Harwood

Audio Producer: Lu Hill

Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Kelly's stumbled upon a $22 eye cream that's making her question every expensive cream she's ever owned, plus Leigh's husband has been raving about her hair mask he's been stealing in the shower. This episode will have you questioning your entire beauty budget. 

We're talking CC serums that make you look like you've been living your best hydrated life, setting sprays endorsed by Rihanna's makeup artist, and why sometimes the most ridiculously priced products actually deliver on their promises.

SPENDY:

Kelly: By Terry Brightening CC Serum $132
Leigh: Clarins Fix Makeup Setting Mist $52

SAVEY:

Kelly: Bubble Star Dew Hydrating Eye Cream $22
Leigh: Ovev Wellness Oceanic Renewal Hair Masque $59.95

NEWBIES:

Kelly: Westman Atelier Baby Cheeks + Face Trace Sculpting Powder Duo $131
Leigh: L'Occitane Shimmering Body Oil Limited Edition $79

SMS/EMPTY:

Kelly: Givenchy Prisme Libre Skin Caring Glow Foundation $98
Leigh: Klorane Dry Shampoo for Oily Hair $10.99

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You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren

Producer: Sophie Campbell

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Pack your bags Youbies! Sarah Marie and Kelly are serving up the ultimate European summer packing masterclass, and honestly, we're already booking flights! The duo navigate the art of not looking like a hot mess after a 24-hour flight, the horror of fake tan gone wrong on planes, and mastering that "I just rolled out of bed in Tuscany" glow whilst your entire beauty routine is crammed into a carry-on!

Sarah Marie casually drops that her husband just surprise-booked them a European getaway, sending Kelly into a spiral of holiday envy! Our gorgeous Youbies aren't helping either, sharing their wanderlust-inducing dream destinations - Italy for pasta binges with perfect glowy skin, Paris for effortless chic with red lips, and Belgium for full Tomorrowland festival sparkle mode! 

LINKS TO ALL THE PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 

Estee Lauder Double Wear Blurring Primer $88

Iconic Underglow Blurring Primer $48

One Size Powder Melt $64

Rare Beauty Mini Blush And Luminize Trio $63

Charlotte Tilbury Mini Flawless Filter Foundation Powder $42

Huda Easy Bake Setting Spray Mini $29

Stila Blush And Bronze Duo $56

Two Faced Better Than Sex Mini Mascara $28

Smashbox Original Photo Finish $59

Tartelette Reflections Amazonian Clay Palette $78

Santa Barbra Strawberry Perfume Oil $175

Tropique Narcotique Natural Perfume Oil $85

Chi Chi Super CC Cream $39.95

NARS Light Reflecting Foundation $89

Too Faced Lip Injection Bubblegum $28

Smooth & Groom Wearable Treatment $26.95 

Mini Bronze Eyeshadow Palette $46

Benefit Cosmetics Willa Nude Blush Mini $33

Hoola Matte Bronzer $37

SOMI Curate-Mi Kit $140

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You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Sarah Marie Fahd & Kelly McCarren

Producer: Mollie Harwood & Sophie Campbell

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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We're about to turn your knicker drawer into a beauty salon and completely flip everything you thought you knew about blush because apparently, we've all been doing it wrong this whole time.

First up: using a G-string to create perfect heatless curls - yes, you read that right. While everyone's been wrapping their hair around socks and silk scrunchies, this viral hack takes things to a whole new level. We're testing whether your underwear drawer might just hold the secret to salon-worthy waves.

Then, we're tackling the blush placement technique that's got everyone questioning everything they thought they knew about makeup. Forget the apples of your cheeks - this method involves strategic finger measurements and placement that promises to lift and sculpt your face in ways traditional blush application never could.

LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

Cream Blushes Worth Trying:

• Flavido Blush in Rose  $44
• Youngblood Cosmetics Cream Blush $69.96
• Huda Beauty Cream Blush $41
• Fenty Beauty Cream Blush $35
• Rare Beauty Cream Blushes $48
• Makeup by Mario Blushes
• Elf Cosmetics Cream Blushes

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You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Sarah Marie Fahd & Liv James

Producer: Mollie Harwood & Sophie Campbell 

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Video Production: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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In this special episode of You Beauty, Leigh sits down with the iconic Jane Fonda for an intimate conversation about inner beauty, wellness, and the wisdom that comes with 87 incredible years of living. Fresh from her Australian adventures courtesy of Wanderlust True North, Jane opens up about what genuinely lights her up - from her fierce commitment to saving our planet to the daily rituals that keep her vibrant and energised.

Jane gets honest about everything from beauty standards to perimenopause, and with her signature mix of wisdom and wit, she's living proof that reinvention and inner beauty is not only possible at any age - it's genuinely inspiring.

This isn't just another celebrity chat; it's pure gold - a masterclass in living authentically from someone who's truly seen it all. Sometimes the most beautiful thing about a person is their courage to keep fighting for what matters, and Jane Fonda? She's the poster child.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Leigh Campbell 

Guest: Jane Fonda, guest of Wanderlust True North

Producer: Mollie Harwood

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here.

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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