The test of character is simple: what do you do when you have nothing to lose… or everything? Ryan and General Stanley McChrystal continue their conversation about what true leadership demands, why “later” never comes, how parenting tests your values, and the lessons McChrystal carried into life after the military.

General McChrystal is a retired United States Army general best known for his command of Joint Special Operations Command in the mid-2000s. He established a consultancy firm, McChrystal Group, in 2011 and advises senior executives at multinational corporations on navigating complex change and building stronger teams.

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