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106. Breaking Free from Narcissism: Understanding Traits, Setting Boundaries, and Finding Freedom W/Tony Overbay


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In this episode, I am joined by Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist and host of the Virtual Couch and Waking Up to Narcissism podcasts. We explore the complexities of breaking free from relationships with narcissists, focusing on the challenges and strategies to regain emotional autonomy. We delve into the concepts of differentiation, trauma bonding, and the importance of self-validation. Tony shares his insights on how narcissistic behaviors escalate during divorce and separation, and how to maintain a sense of self amid these challenges. This episode is divided into two parts, with the continuation airing next week.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:29 Understanding Narcissism and Separation

03:51 Personal Story and Impact of Narcissism

06:42 Emotional Immaturity and Narcissistic Traits

14:19 Trauma Bonding and Intermittent Reinforcement

20:02 Weaponizing Therapy Tools

24:54 Five Rules for Dealing with Narcissists

25:13 The Challenge of Setting Boundaries

26:00 The Narcissist's Need for Validation

27:40 Therapist's Perspective on Narcissism

30:07 Differentiation in Relationships

36:19 The Concept of Control Bubbles

42:09 Constructing Your Crucible

47:25 The Pathologically Kind Person

49:09 Conclusion and Next Steps


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