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Have you ever dealt with frustrating wrist pain or carpal tunnel or tennis elbow or golfer's elbow or climber's elbow - pain that is aggravated by typing and computer work? Have you ever wished you could walk one, five or ten miles while still being able to work on a book, a project, or a paper? Have you ever wished you could simply talk your thoughts into existence, and have them appear in your emails, documents, books and more? Then today's podcast episode is for you.
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Before jumping into today's episode, let's take a look at folks who have abandoned traditional methods of simply sitting down to produce, create and be productive.
The list of historical figures who have used standing desks is veritable “who’s who”. Here is just a brief snapshot of famous folks, writers, and inventors who leveraged the standing desk’s benefits throughout history. For example, Leonardo da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa while he stood at his standing desk. Da Vinci also stood at his desk while sketching new inventions, including parachutes, flying machines, and armored vehicles. The standing desk also made its appearance in one of the world’s oldest colleges, the University of Cambridge, founded in 1209. Standing desks were first recorded as being used in the library in 1626, and the idea of writing while standing was placed at the epicenter of intellectual thought. Napoléon Bonaparte also used a standing desk and found it conducive to quick thinking and strategizing for battle. Thomas Jefferson also used the standing desk while composing documents, including the Declaration of Independence (he actually developed a six-legged adjustable standing desk, and was one of the first known people to use an adjustable standing desk). Charles Dickens' workspace where he penned such timeless classics as Oliver Twist, A Christmas Carol, and A Tale of Two Cities. is described as having “books all round, up to the ceiling and down to the ground; a standing-desk at which he writes; and all manner of comfortable easy chairs.” Winston Churchill was often seen writing at his standing desk. Ernest Hemingway’s fashioned a standing desk out of a bookcase near his bed. Honest Abe Lincoln was never too far from his trusty standing desk. He used it to deliver the Emancipation Proclamation and is famously quoted as saying 'Verily, 'tis my standing desk that gave me the inspiration to end this wicked and iniquitous trade.' In addition to standing while writing, both dictating while writing is also something famous authors have done. For example, in her book The Productive Author's Guide to Dictation: Speak Your Way to Higher (and Healthier!) Word Counts, author Cindy Grigg reports:
“Leo Tolstoy received one of the earliest dictaphone prototypes. To this he replied that the “Ediphone” was impressive but “too dreadfully exciting” for his methods. Instead, he seemed to favor dictating to his daughter Alexandra or even house guests. Fyodor Dostoyevsky reportedly struck a bargain with his publisher to pay off his and/or his brother’s debts. The deal required that the author submit his manuscript for The Gambler in short order. To do so, he employed stenographer Anna Grigorievna, who gave him collaborative feedback as well. He finished the manuscript in four weeks then married Anna.
“Thomas Hardy dictated his wife Florence Hardy’s ‘biography’ about himself to her, seemingly to retain control of the account. Like many authors, Hardy also dictated once he became ill. Stricken with pleurisy, he spoke his last poem to his wife Florence.
John Milton was blind when he created Paradise Lost, dictating the epic poetical work to his several daughters. This inspired paintings of him and his daughters by artists George Romney, Delacroix, and others.
Alexander Dumas was rumored to never touch up his drafts, having served as a historian, which had given him practice in thinking about what he wanted to say before he dictated it.
Michel de Montaigne , an acclaimed 16th-century essayist, dictated his journal and possibly other writings.
Henry James referred to his hired transcriptionists as amanuenses, needing to contract such help at least partially due to rheumatism in his wrist. One of them, Theodora Bosanquet, recorded in her diary, “Indeed, at the time when I began to work for him, he had reached a stage at which the click of the Remington machine acted as a positive spur. He found it more difficult to compose to the music of any other make. During a fortnight when the Remington was out of order he dictated to an Oliver typewriter with evident discomfort, and he found it almost disconcerting to speak to something that made no responsive sound at all.”
William Wordsworth was a kindred spirit to mobile writers such as myself. He ‘wrote’ Tintern Abbey mentally on a “ramble of four or five days…Not a line of it was altered, and not any part of it written down till I reached Bristol.'' Thanks to transcriptionist Isabella Fenwick, he also dictated The Fenwick Notes commentary about his poetry. Of his long poem The Excursion, Wordsworth mentions, “Something must now be said of this poem, but chiefly, as has been done through the whole of these notes, with reference to my personal friends, and especially to her who has perseveringly taken them down from my dictation.”
Charles Dickens was rumored to act his characters out in front of a mirror, giving vocal dramatizations of dialogue and text. In 1882, The Brooklyn Daily Eagle published an interview with someone who claimed to be Dickens’ amanuensis, describing him this way: “‘Yes, I did shorthand work for Mr. Dickens for eighteen months. I did not take dictation for any of his novels, only his fugitive pieces…Most people seem to think Dickens was a ready writer. This is by no means the case. He used to come into his office in St. Catherine Street about eight o’clock in the morning and begin dictating. He would walk up and down the floor several times after dictating a sentence or a paragraph and ask me to read it. I would do so, and he would, in nine cases out of ten, order me to strike out certain words and insert others. He was generally tired out by eleven o’clock, and went down to his club on the Strand. A singular thing was that he never dictated the closing paragraphs of his story. He always finished it himself. I used to look in the paper for it, and find that he had changed it very greatly from what he had dictated to me. Dickens had a very odd habit of combing his hair. He would comb it a hundred times in a day. He seemed never to tire of it. The first thing he did on coming into the office was to comb his hair. I have seen him dictate a sentence or two, and then begin combing. When he got through he dictated another sentence.”
Bram Stoker was himself a secretary and director of London's Lyceum Theatre, as well as a manager for Henry Irving. His own experiences may have influenced how several chapters of Dracula are dedicated to asylum director Dr. Seward recording dictations on a phonograph, to the chagrin of Mina Harker, who typed them up as soon as possible, believing the veracity and emotion of the audio to be too much for other readers to bear. “I have copied the words on my typewriter, and none other need now hear your heart beat, as I did.”
Dictation is also mentioned in Stoker’s The Jewel of Seven Stars. Stendhal (the pen name for Marie-Henri Beyle) dictated The Charterhouse of Parma in seven weeks, 52 consecutive days--another kindred spirit to Marcel Proust dictated the Death of Bergotte to Celeste Albaret on his death bed, even though it was already finished, saying it needed to be written a second time. He supposedly explained, “I didn’t yet know what it’s like to die when I wrote it. I know it more now.”
James Joyce found inspiration in a random happening while dictating Finnegan's Wake. While recording the story, Joyce was interrupted when someone came to the door and was welcomed with a phrase like, “Come in,” which Joyce thought worked well in the manuscript so he left it in his draft.
Thomas Aquinas was apparently so skilled at dictation that he gave observers the impression he could speak on several topics at once to multiple scribes and even to dictate in his sleep.”
In today's podcast, we're going to delve into how you too can be more productive, build endurance, maintain muscle, and burn more calories, all while writing from a standing desk and / or while dictating.
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My guest, author J.F.Penn, is the New York Times and USA Today bestselling author of thrillers on the edge, as well as bestselling non-fiction for authors published under Joanna Penn. Joanna’s site for writers, TheCreativePenn.com has been voted one of the Top 10 sites for writers three years running. She is a professional speaker on creative entrepreneurship, digital publishing and internet marketing, and was voted one of The Guardian UK Top 100 creative professionals 2013.
During our discussion, you'll discover:
-How Joanna developed chronic repetitive motion injuries in her wrist, and why ergonomic keyboards and an ergonomic computer mouse weren't working for her...
-Why Joanna decided to go way above and beyond simply using a standing workstation or treadmill desk...
-How Joanna is simultaneously working on multiple books while also training for an ultramarathon...
-Whether you can really, truly be creative while standing or walking, and why it's a myth that you need to sit to write effectively...
-The exact tools, microphones and software that Joanna has found to work very well for dictation...
-A book that will teach you exactly how to dictate quickly and effectively...
-How to "train" your computer to recognize your voice and accent...
-How to enhance productivity with ambient noise and focus apps...
-And much more!
Resources from this episode: -Joanna Penn's Amazon book page -The Productive Author's Guide to Dictation: Speak Your Way to Higher (and Healthier!) Word Counts -Dictate Your Book: How To Write Your Book Faster, Better, and Smarter (Growth Hacking For Storytellers) -Audio-Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone -Dragon Dictate software for dictating -Dragon Anywhere cloud software -Scrivener software for writing/organizing books -Rode lav mic -Kevin J. Anderson (an author who dictates while walking 4+ hours per day) -Ben Greenfield's fiction book "The Forest" -Varidesk -ArmAid -The Focal Upright Website (this is a place where you can also get the "Mogo" stool or the Locus seat we talk about) -The Kybounder balance deskmat -The Topo mat -The TrueForm treadmill -Yoga For The Upright Desk article -Brain.FM -Noisely.com
Do you have questions, comments or feedback for Joanna or I? Leave your thoughts at BenGreenfieldFitness.com and one of us will reply!
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I get diet books in the mail all the time. No, I don't have some kind of online shopping fetish for diet books. People just send them to me. Unsolicited. As a matter of fact, it's a well-known fact in the health and nutrition industry that one of the fastest ways to "make a buck" is to write and sell a diet book. It plays on the psychology that people are constantly looking for next answer to the diet that's not currently working for them. Or they're bored. Or have grass-is-always-greener syndrome.
Anyhow, as you can imagine, I was quite pleased when I received an undieting book in the mail last week. UnDiet: Eat Your Way To Vibrant Health, which includes a plan for an 8-week transformation and more than 35 delicious gluten-free, plant-based recipes. Meghan Telpner, the author of UnDiet is a Toronto-based author, speaker, and nutritionist. She used to have Crohn's disease, but after throwing up her hands in frustration at the way the modern medical system was trying to heal her, and instead embarking upon her own path of healing, she's fixed her gut, and learned quite a bit about food, exercise, and psychology along the way.
If you find yourself constantly caught up in new diets... ....or you deal with stress constantly damaging your gut... ...or you have Crohn's or some other kind of gut issue... ...or you look good on the outside but feel like crap on the inside... ...then this episode is a must-listen for you.
In it, you'll discover:
-The exact steps Meghan used (after nearly having her colon removed from debilitating Crohn's disease) healed her entire gut in just 4 weeks...
-Why you should learn to cook, even if you have someone or some service who can do all the healthy cooking for you...
-What to do when you see a food, or a workout, or some other activity and it just doesn't "feel right"...
-Why Meghan thinks yoga is harder than a stairclimber or a high-intensity workout...
-Why a cute outfit doesn't mean much if you feel like total crappola...
-How you can get around the awkwardness of questioning paradigms, and being "that person" at a dinner party who perhaps doesn't use a microwave or drinks green smoothies...
-In the end, the most important question to ask yourself when it comes to "undieting"...
-And much more!
Resources from this episode:
-Book Ben mentions early in episode: The Hidden Half of Nature: Microbial Roots Of Life & Health
-Another book Ben mentions: Reclaiming Conversation
Do you have questions, comments or feedback about how to quit dieting? Leave your thoughts at BenGreenfieldFitness.com and either Meghan or I will reply!
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A couple years ago, at the Ancestral Health Symposium, I presented a poster entitled "Biohacking The Hazards of Sitting". As you can see in the video below, I actually thought I was being quite witty to present a poster on the dangers of sitting while sitting with poor posture in a folding chair. It's actually been over five years since I've adopted the habit of frequently alternating positions throughout my work day, a strategy I highlight in detail my video "How Should You Stand At A Standing Desk“ and also in last week's podcast "Standing Desks, Memory Foam & The Science Of Walking Barefoot In Shoes." My office is actually like a tiny playground, littered with kettlebells, a pull-up bar, a boxing heavy bag, this treadmill workstation, and a variety of standing surfaces, including my latest foot acupressure therapy invention, a Bulletproof Sleep Induction mat wrapped around a Kybounder mat. But I just can't get enough of this stuff.
So in a few weeks, I'm interviewing a fiction author about how she writes fiction while standing and walking to train for an ultramarathon, and in today's podcast, I'm interviewing a guy named Josh Kerst, who mans the helm of one of the most innovative standing workstation companies on the face of the planet: Focal Upright.
Josh is executive vice president of Focal Upright Furniture Inc. He holds a BSE (U of Michigan) in Industrial Engineering and is a Certified Professional Ergonomist (CPE), Certified Industrial Ergonomist (CIE) and is a Member of the ANSI/BIFMA X5.1 Office Seating committee. During our discussion, you'll discover:
-What it means to be an "active couch potato"...
-The shocking results of a study on athletes that found they can actually be more sedentary than the average office worker...
-Workplace positions that trigger a gene which restricts your ability to recover and drops your HDL...
-How long you would need to be sitting for the dangers of sitting to begin kicking in...
-How a dangerous response called the "compensation effect" can kick in if you exercise at the beginning of the day, and what you can do about it...
-Why a standing workstation can actually hurt your shoulders, elbows and wrists and how to set up proper ergonomics at a standing workstation...
-Ideas for creative positions you can work in aside from standing, walking or sitting... -Why you should a "stool" to your standing workstation setup...
-The brand new heart rate variability research coming out soon on standing mats for everything from balance to strengthening and stretching your feet while you are working...
-And much more!
Resources from this episode: -The Focal Upright Website (this is a place where you can also get the "Mogo" stool or the Locus seat we talk about) -The Kybounder balance deskmat -The Topo mat -The TrueForm treadmill -Yoga For The Upright Desk article -The Lighting Science "Awake & Alert" Bulbs -The Human Charger in-ear phototherapy device -Study: Sedentary behaviour among elite professional footballers: health and performance implications -Study: Identification of hemostatic genes expressed in human and rat leg muscles and a novel gene (LPP1/PAP2A) suppressed during prolonged physical inactivity (sitting) -Study: Research on "the compensation effect" -12 different apps that will remind you to take a break
Do you have questions, comments or feedback for Daniel Yellin or I? Leave your thoughts at BenGreenfieldFitness.com!
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January 21, 2016 Podcast: Fish Oil & Fat Loss, Is The Wim Hof Method Dangerous, The Dietary Cure For Acne And More! Have a podcast question for Ben? Click the tab on the right (or go to SpeakPipe), use the Contact button on the app, call 1-877-209-9439, or use the “Ask Ben” form at the bottom of this page.
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Listener Q&A:As compiled, deciphered, edited and sometimes read by Rachel Browne, the NEW Podcast Sidekick.
Is Wim Hof Method Dangerous?Matt says: Are there any dangers with the Wim Hof method? For example, lack of oxygen to the brain or forcing yourself into hyperventilation. Are there any health risks?
In my response, I recommend: -My original podcast with Wim (and his breathing technique) -My most recent podcast with Wim -My podcast with Ted Harty The Dietary Cure For Acne (And A Natural Anti-Acne Facewash)Kyle says: What are options for a healthy cure for acne? He's heard about different essential oils but is there a particular all natural facewash you recommend?
In my response, I recommend: -Dietary cure for acne book by Loren Cordain -Manuka honey How To Fix The Damage From A ConcussionJimmy says: You have talked a lot about brain health but he's particularly interested in hearing about how to recover from concussions. He's 25 years old and has had about 8 or 9 concussions, some have involved significant black out time, and he's wondering if you can help provide insight into some things he should be doing to help his brain?
In my response, I recommend: -Episode #340 -My podcast with Mark Tullius -My podcast with Dr. Kelly Ryder -Concussion prescription from Dr. Jack Kruse How To Increase Your AppetiteMichael says: He's a hockey player trying to gain weight. He's 5'10" and 160 pounds, he needs to be over 180 pounds to remain competitive. He's tried drinking a gallon of whole milk every day but that doesn't seem sustainable from a health perspective, what would you recommend to help him increase his appetite in a healthy way?
In my response, I recommend: -Dan John's Mass Made Simple -Fish Oil -Plum Extract -Echinacea Alkylamides-----------------------------------------------------
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A few weeks ago, I published an extremely popular article entitled "How Breath-Holding, Blood-Doping, Shark-Chasing, Free-Diving & Ketosis Can Activate Your Body’s Most Primal Reflex."
In that article, I mentioned a guy named Ted Harty, from Immersion Freediving in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. At over six feet tall and 230 solid pounds, Ted is a big, bold, loud, extroverted character. He looks like a boxer, and not like a guy who you’d expect to be diving at incredibly efficient oxygen capacity to depths deeper than most human beings have ever ventured. But it was Ted who was about to open my eyes to a whole new world of freediving, and who I spent nearly every waking hour of ninety-six hours of my life learning every possible closely-guarded breath-holding and deep-diving tactic. Ted began his underwater career in 2005, as a scuba instructor in the Florida Keys. Over the years, Ted became a Scuba Schools International Instructor and a Professional Association of Diving Instructors Staff Instructor. But whenever Ted was on the boat and did not have students to take care of, he’d jump in with mask, fins and snorkel and play around on the reef, sans scuba equipment. As Ted highlights in this fascinating, quick video about his life:
“Sometimes I’d have just five minutes to swim around without all of my scuba gear. I loved it. I could swim down to the sand at Sombrero Reef and hang out for a bit at 20 feet. I wanted more. I wanted to learn how to stay down longer and how to dive deeper.” So, in January of 2008, Ted took his first Performance Freediving International (PFI) course. “I couldn’t believe how little I knew about freediving at the time. As a scuba instructor I knew more about diving physiology than the average Joe, but quickly realized I knew nothing about freediving. At the start of the course I had a 2:15 breath-hold, but after just four days of training I did a five-minute hold! I couldn’t believe it was possible.”
So next, Ted signed up for instructor-level courses at Performance Freediving. He was soon offered a job teaching with Performance Freediving, when he moved to Fort Lauderdale. Then, in 2009 Ted went to PFI’s annual competition. At the time, he was about a 80- to 90-foot freediver and weighed 230 pounds. He wasn’t in good shape at all, but after three weeks of training under the tutelage of world-reknowned freedivers Kirk Krack and Mandy-Rae Cruickshank, he did a 54 meter (177 -feet) freedive. “I was blown away by what I was capable of.” Ted spent a year working with Kirk and Mandy, while traveling around the country teaching the Intermediate Freediver program. Then, in 2010, a much more fit Ted went back to PFI’s annual competition. That year his new personal best was 213 feet, and currently he’s managed to up that to an impressive 279 feet. In June 2012, Ted was selected as the Team Captain for the US Freediving Team at the Freediving World Championships, and in 2013 he attained PFI Advanced Instructor and PFI Instructor Trainer, becoming the first and only PFI independent instructor to receive this rating.
Oh yeah, and Ted also holds the record for hypoxic underwater swimming in the pool, having done 7 full lengths (175 meters) without a single breath. But most impressive? Ted has anemia. This means his blood can’t deliver oxgyen as efficiently to his muscles and brain as most of the world’s population. Thes means he has a blood hematocrit level of 34, easily 1/3 less than most athletes. This is a condition that would leave most folks huffing and puffing for air after climbing a flight of stairs.
Obviously, anemia hasn’t stopped Ted. And in today's podcast, he shares his secrets with us, including:
-How Ted went from an overweight scuba diver to becoming a fit free diving instructor...
-Why being cold and cold water can actually inhibit your ability to hold your breath...
-Ted's thoughts about Tom Cruise's freediving scene in the recent Mission Impossible, and how Tom Cruise got up to a six minute static apnea hold...
-How to use static apnea tables to enhance your ability to tolerate high levels of CO2 and low levels of O2...
-Why training your mammalian dive reflex so useful, even if you have zero desire to do long breathholds or freediving competition...
-How shallow water blackouts occur and how you can avoid them...
-The cool things that happen to your body when you hold our breath during exercise like jogging...
-The specific forms of dry land training that freedivers do to get their bodies necessary to excel underwater and to enhance oxygen carrying capacity and oxygen delivery...
-Ted's controversial thoughts on resisted breath training tools like the Powerlung and the Elevation Training Masks...
-Why you should avoid hyperventilation and "blowing off CO2" prior to a breath hold...
-The difference between Ted's breathing techniques and Wim Hof's breathing techniques...
-And much more!
Resources from this episode: -book - Deep: Freediving, Renegade Science, and What the Ocean Tells Us about Ourselves -podcast - my previous podcast with Wim Hof -Static apnea tables -The static apnea table app that I personally use -Immersion Freediving in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Do you have questions, comments or feedback for Ted or I about freediving, breathholding, the mammalian dive reflex or more? Leave your thoughts at BenGreenfieldFitness.com!
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