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What counts as cheating if nothing physical ever happened?
In this episode, Hali sits down with Certified Partner Coach, Jill Pool to name what so often goes unnamed: the betrayal that leaves no physical evidence but reshapes a person's entire sense of safety.
This conversation holds both partners with care and offers language for a kind of pain that's too often minimized.
About the guest:
Jill Pool is an APSATS Certified Partner Coach who helps individuals navigate the complexities of betrayal recovery. As the co-owner of Hope in the Havoc (with her husband, Alonso) and a contracted coach for Hope Redefined, Jill specializes in supporting those facing unique life challenges, such as special needs parenting, homeschooling, and child loss. As a Christian, she also offers clients the opportunity to incorporate their faith into the healing journey. She develops resources that utilize straightforward language, enabling betrayed partners to express themselves more effectively. As a homeschooling mom of 12, she knows firsthand how to balance demanding family dynamics with personal healing.
Connect with Jill:
Website: hopeinthehavoc.com
Emotional Betrayal DNA resources: hopeinthehavoc.com/resources
Instagram: @hopeinthehavoc
Facebook: /hopeinthehavoc
Email: [email protected]
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Women: Attend my FREE live weekly Workshop: Boundaries That Build Safety
MEN: Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Learn more about Reclaiming You: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men. This takes place November 8-11th.
Rise, Renew, Restore Retreat in Bali, Indonesia is an intimate, trauma-informed women’s healing retreat designed. Join us April 18–25, 2027, in Bali.
If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal. I created this course alongside my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
You've done the work. So why does healing still feel like something you're performing instead of living? In this episode, Hali sits down with psychologist and partner specialist Mike Tiede to unpack the difference between doing recovery and living it — and why so many couples get stuck in the gap between the two.
About Mike Tiede:
Mike is a Master 's-level, Licensed Psychologist (MA, LP) in Minnesota with over 30 years of experience, and a Board Certified Coach (BCC), helping individuals of all ages navigate life's challenges and improve their emotional well-being. His approach is grounded in evidence-based practices and tailored to each client's unique needs.
As a Certified Partner Coach through APSATS and a Certified Clinical Partner Specialist in the MPTM (Multidimensional Partner Trauma Model), Mike specializes in working with male partners who have betrayed their wives, male partners who have experienced betrayal, and couples impacted by sexual betrayal. He is also certified as a Certified Restoring Truth Disclosure Guide and a Christian Addiction Specialist International Candidate (C-SASI-C). Mike and his wife, Vicki, assist couples in all areas of recovery, with a particular focus on Phase 2 and Phase 3 work—helping couples who have established initial stability move toward deeper healing, relational repair, and genuine intimacy.
Mike integrates a trauma-informed, attachment-sensitive, and multidimensional approach to recovery. He also offers integration of Christian faith and values as a meaningful part of the healing process.
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If today’s episode resonated with you, here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.
The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men — this takes place November 8-11th.
Rise, Renew, Restore Retreat in Bali, Indonesia is an intimate, trauma-informed women’s healing retreat. Join us April 18–25, 2027, in Bali for a powerful fusion of somatic healing, breathwork, sound, energy work, Human Design, meaningful cultural experiences, adventure, rest, and connection.
If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, you will find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal, created alongside my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
When you're trying to heal a marriage after infidelity or betrayal, it's easy for recovery to become the center of everything.
In this episode, Hali explores five ways couples can rebuild trust and emotional safety after betrayal without either partner disappearing in the process.
Whether you are the betrayed partner or the partner who broke trust, healing after infidelity isn't just about keeping your marriage together. It's also about learning how to stay connected to yourself while choosing connection with each other.
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Learn more about Reclaiming You: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.
The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men who have already begun their recovery and self-awareness journey — and are ready to go deeper. This takes place November 8-11th.
Rise, Renew, Restore Retreat in Bali, Indonesia is an intimate, trauma-informed women’s healing retreat designed for women who have already done significant inner work and are ready to move beyond surviving into deeper joy, embodiment, and wholeness. Join us April 18–25, 2027, in Bali for a powerful fusion of somatic healing, breathwork, sound, energy work, Human Design, meaningful cultural experiences, adventure, rest, and connection—all guided by trauma-trained facilitators.
If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, you will find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal. I created this course alongside my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
"Intimacy anorexia" is one of the most talked-about — and most misunderstood — terms in betrayal recovery. In this episode, I set out to understand it honestly, with one of the most credentialed voices in the field - Dr. Janice Caudill.
This conversation is built for couples. Whether you're the betrayed partner or the one working to rebuild trust, we look at how intimacy breaks down, how to tell the difference between active withholding and a trauma response, and what realistic, body-aware recovery can look like when two people choose to heal together. It's a grounded, compassionate, and refreshingly honest look at a hard topic — with practical takeaways you can both carry into the week.
Connect with Dr. Janice Caudill:
Janice is a psychologist, licensed through PSYPACT for tele-therapy in most states. She is a certified Intimacy Anorexia Therapist, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist-Supervisor, Certified Clinical Partner Specialist-Supervisor, Certified Partner Trauma Therapist–Supervisor and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner. She is one of the founding members of the APSATS, and participated in the development of a trauma model for partner betrayal.
Janice is the founder of Intensive Recovery Healing and Intensive Recovery Coaching. Janice and Dan Drake are the authors of his and hers companion workbooks for helping couples navigate a therapeutic disclosure of sexual betrayal:
Full Disclosure: Seeking Truth After Sexual Betrayal – 3 Volume Series
Full Disclosure: Sharing the Truth After Sexual Betrayal
https://intensivehope.com/
https://www.facebook.com/IntensiveRecoveryHealing?mibextid=ZbWKwL
Intimacy Anorexia Freebies: https://intensivehope.com/resources/freebies
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Learn more about Reclaiming You: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners:
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.
Email Hali to join the Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
If you're a woman and you’re doing the work — therapy, coaching, reading everything you can get your hands on — and you're still white-knuckling it alone most days of the week, this episode is for you. I talk about why healing from betrayal trauma was never going to happen in one hour a week, including from my own experience, and about a pattern I see constantly: how much of our time, money, and energy goes toward his healing while ours quietly gets put on the back burner. Then I introduce Reclaiming You, the group program built to put your healing first — with community and high-touch support to get you through the hardest days. Click here to learn more.
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Learn more about Reclaiming You: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.
The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men who have already begun their recovery and self-awareness journey — and are ready to go deeper. This takes place November 8-11th.
Rise, Renew, Restore Retreat in Bali, Indonesia is an intimate, trauma-informed women’s healing retreat designed for women who have already done significant inner work and are ready to move beyond surviving into deeper joy, embodiment, and wholeness. Join us April 18–25, 2027, in Bali for a powerful fusion of somatic healing, breathwork, sound, energy work, Human Design, meaningful cultural experiences, adventure, rest, and connection—all guided by trauma-trained facilitators.
If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, you will find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal, created with my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
If you're rebuilding trust after infidelity, you've probably noticed something strange: small disagreements can escalate way faster and way bigger than the topic seems to deserve. A dish in the sink. A short text back. Being fifteen minutes late.
In this episode, we talk about why that happens — and it's not because either of you is being dramatic. After betrayal, your nervous system starts running everyday moments through a threat filter, not just an annoyance filter. That means ordinary conflict can carry real weight underneath it: questions about safety, about control, and about repair work that hasn't fully landed yet.
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9, 2026 in Spanish Fork, Utah.
The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men who have already begun their recovery and self-awareness journey, and are ready to go deeper. This takes place November 8-11, 2026.
Rise, Renew, Restore Retreat in Bali, Indonesia is an intimate, trauma-informed women’s healing retreat designed for women who have already done significant inner work and are ready to move beyond surviving into deeper joy, embodiment, and wholeness. Join us April 18–25, 2027, in Bali for a powerful fusion of methods—all guided by trauma-trained facilitators.
If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, you will find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal. I created this course alongside my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
"Separation" doesn't have to mean divorce. In this episode, I'm joined by Shawna Meek of Living Stones Coaching to talk about the therapeutic separation — a structured, intentional time apart designed to create safety and clarity for couples navigating betrayal.
Whether you're considering time apart or just trying to understand your options, this conversation offers a grounded starting point.
Connect with Shawna Meek:
www.livingstonescoaching.com or [email protected]
Determined for More book
Six Episode Podcast Series
Get the resources mentioned in today’s episode:
The Separation Plan Guide
Relational Safety Plan for Couples
Shawna is a Professional Certified Coach, author, and coaching consultation supervisor. Her specialized focus is supporting woman experiencing betrayal trauma from problematic sexual behavior and are in a neurodiverse marriage, primarily with autism and Asperger profiles. She currently reaches those around the world through her podcast appearances, individual coaching, couples workshops, and supervising other professionals. She is also a brainspotting practitioner. She is the author of the book, Determined for More, based on her own 25 year marriage journey, available on Amazon.
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.
Email Hali to join the Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
In this episode of the Choosing Different mini-series, Hali is joined by her daughters, Mataia and Morgan, for an honest conversation about betrayal trauma's impact on the whole family — not just the marriage. Hali reflects on what she believed she was doing right at the time (staying reassuring, keeping hard details between the adults) and what she's since learned she missed about how her daughters were actually experiencing it. Mataia and Morgan share what that season of family trauma recovery looked like from where they were standing as kids, and how it's shaping the choices they make now as young moms of their own.
Together they talk about the protective patterns that form in the middle of survival mode, why validating both the parent's experience and the child's experience matters for real healing, and what it looks like to break old patterns on purpose instead of by accident. The episode closes with an invitation to the Becoming Together mother/daughter retreat.
Mentioned in this episode:
If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.
Get support for your children: Witnessed Group Coaching program led by Morgan Ellsworth.
Connect with Morgan Ellsworth: [email protected]
Instagram: @healing.betrayed.families
Podcast: Healing Betrayed Families
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.
Email Hali to join the Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Connect With Me Between Episodes
Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.
👉 Instagram: @rootedandrising.healing
👉 Facebook: Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick
👉 Website: rootedandrisinghealing.com
If the betrayal in your relationship happened years ago — and life moved forward, but the deepest layers of healing never actually happened — this episode is for you.
Maybe the resources weren't available at the time. Maybe neither of you had the language for what betrayal trauma actually is. Maybe you got through the facts but never did the deeper grief work. Whatever the reason, when real repair gets skipped, the pain doesn't disappear — it waits.
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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.
Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect.
Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.
The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men who have already begun their recovery and self-awareness journey — and are ready to go deeper. This takes place November 8-11th.
If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, you will find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal. I created this course alongside my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
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When we talk about betrayal trauma, the picture most people carry is of a betrayed woman. But men experience betrayal too — and their pain often goes unseen, misread as anger, or dismissed entirely. In this episode, Dr. Laney Knowlton joins us to look honestly at what betrayal trauma looks like for men.
We talk about the support gap, look at the cultural messages men carry, and how those make healing challenging.
Most importantly, we talk about what actually helps and what genuine healing looks like whether a man chooses to stay or leave.
Dr. Laney Knowlton is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Supervisor and clinical sexologist with a PhD in Clinical Sexology. She maintains a private practice, Knowlton Counseling with physical offices in TX and UT and is licensed across more than a dozen states. She specializes in sexual abuse, betrayal, and problematic sexual behavior. Dr. Knowlton is the author of Healing from Betrayal, Infidelity, and Problematic Sexual Behaviors (Routledge, 2025) and the developer of the Connected Recovery® framework. She currently serves as President of the Society for the Advancement of Sexual Health (SASH).
KnowltonCounseling.com & ConnectedRecoveryTraining.com
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Other Resources in this Episode:
Going Deeper: How the Inner Child Impacts Your Sexual Addiction
Helping Couples Heal From Infidelity and Find Love Again
The Intimacy Pyramid
The Betrayal Shrink
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You don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone.
Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:
Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your Body
Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.
Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.
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Join me at a Retreat or Intensive
I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.
If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.
The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.
Email Hali to join the Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth.
Free Resources & Downloads
Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.
👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal
👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal
Listen to My Other Podcast
If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.
This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.
👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
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