When we were in the first year of doing The Kate & Mike Show, I made a list of “Podcast Unicorns” who I dreamed of having on the show.

TBH, I never reached out to ask this week’s guest onto the show, but I held her name close to my heart on my dream list, trusting that the time would come and that when it did, I would know.

Well, my friend, the time came, she said yes, and I’m SO thrilled to be sharing a conversation with you that meant the world to me and that I hope you’ll find as nourishing as I did.

Glennon Doyle, whose new book Untamed is spectacular and has been a #1 NY Times Bestseller for the last 5 weeks, joined Mike and me for a cozy, after-the-kids-were-in-bed conversation where we talked about:

• What to do when you feel like you’re going to die because you’re being publicly criticized (on whatever scale)

• How to navigate wanting to tell stories about your kids publicly and the line between public and private in the land of the interwebs

• The question it’s critical we ask ourselves about people in positions of authority in our lives so that we don’t lose ourselves

• How to raise girls who don’t lose themselves (and/or how to help them come back when they do)

• Why raising angry girls is a good thing

• How to find yourself again when you’ve noticed you’re lost

• And so much more!

Glennon’s work has been deeply helpful to me at several critical junctures ever since I first read Carry On, Warrior in 2016, and 4 years later I couldn’t be more thrilled to be sharing this conversation with you.

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Show notes and links for this episode can be found at http://www.katenorthrup.com/podcast.