In this episode we interview the brilliant and winsome Leslie Hershberger, an enneagram teacher with decades of experience. Leslie talks about her own encounters with the enneagram, how she uses the enneagram in her work with clients and students, and the difference between entertainment, information, and transformation. Enjoy this masterclass in how to deepen your work with the enneagram.

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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”

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“Wisdom isn’t knowing more. It’s knowing with more of you.”—Cynthia Bourgeault

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Links: 

• Leslie’s website: https://lesliehershberger.com/

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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

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• Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram

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In this surprise bonus episode, Creek leads us through a brief meditation, set to music, on what it means to experience life rather than just exist with it...especially during these strange times. For this experience, we encourage you to take some time to slow down, get comfortable, be curious and simply notice.

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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”

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Links: Elisabeth Gilbert – Big Magic—Creative Living Beyond Fear

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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

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• Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram

[Truthwork Media Studies] - @truth.work.media

"When our view of reality is challenged, it can be traumatic.” In this conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk with Jason Adam Miller (aka “J”), Lead Pastor of South Bend City Church. He offers brilliant and accessible insight into the roles that faith, belief, and tension play in life and encountering the enneagram. In this interview, Jason conveys a wise and caring way of holding space for doubt, tension, and questioning while still offering hope. [He also talks about pastoring a congregation amid this current wave of enneagram popularity.]

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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”

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Quote: “The only thing stronger than fear is curiosity” –Smallfoot (Film)

Quote: “We labor unceasingly to adorn and preserve this imaginary existence and neglect the real” –Blais Pascal

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Links:

• Jason’s Website

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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

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Diving right in, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the often used, but rarely understood concepts of “ego” and “essence” in the enneagram system. In this episode, they explore:

• What is an ego? What is essence?  How can we understand these important but confusing concepts?

“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”

Links:

• Oscar Ichazo

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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

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• Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram

In this mini-episode, Abram, Creek and Drew talk about the current COVID-19 pandemic, anxiety, hoarding, isolation, and how the wisdom of the enneagram can help us during this crisis. Since we recorded this episode in mid-March 2020, the pandemic has only intensified here in the U.S. As the situation becomes urgent and dire, please stay safe everyone!

Links:

• Blaise Pascal – “All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”

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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

Find us online:

• Podcast Insta: @fathoms.ennegram; Facebook: Fathoms - An Enneagram Podcast

Before we dive into the depths of the enneagram, Abram, Creek, and Drew introduce themselves and talk about the enneagram. Specifically:

• Our enneagram origin story.

Links:

• Enneagram Georgia – The home of our beloved teachers, Nan and Lynda.

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Introducing Fathoms: An Enneagram Podcast, a series of conversations about the depths of the enneagram. Hosted by enneagram teachers Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, and Drew Moser, this podcast explores the depth and complexity of our inner landscapes, one fathom at a time. Be on the lookout for conversations, interviews, & meditations.

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Music: “Bird,” by Kazi Jay

Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

Audio Submissions by: Sarah Mickens, Hannah Schonewill, Jenni Schut, Lee Fields (Thanks friends!)

Have a question: drop us a line on instagram: @fathoms.enneagram

Find the hosts online:

• Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram