March 12, 2025

Francis Sanzaro: Boosting Performance with Mindset Tools and Why We Shouldn't Chase Flow

1 hour 32 minutes

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Climbing Coach Francis Sanzaro joins to discuss:

How a Zen mindset can boost performance and joy

Why 'sending' shouldn't be the goal

What to do when things get scary on route

Why top climbers don't call 'take' when something goes wrong

The problem with chasing flow (and what to chase instead)

The pitfall of attaching self-worth to a send

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