Ibram Kendi and Kate Bowler have more in common than they would have liked. Historians and professors. Parents of young kids. Diagnosed with Stage IV colon cancer at age 35. No history of the disease in their families. 

In this conversation, Dr. Ibram Kendi (who Time magazine’s called one of the most influential people of 2020) and Kate discuss: 

• How a diagnosis like the one they share creates a sense of urgency in their work
• How to address the policies behind health care disparities
• Why addressing racism with your kids is an act of courageous living
• The importance of recognizing our own fragility
• Learning to celebrate scars as evidence of life

CW: colon cancer 

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