Society likes to tell the narrative of sick to healthy. But what if there are things we can’t just get over? In his novel, Turtles All The Way Down, John Green explores what it is like to live with something we can’t control. Together, Kate and John talk about finding identity amid chronic illness and how love just might save us all.

CW: Mental illness, cancer

For show notes, the transcript, and discussion questions: https://katebowler.com/podcasts/john-green-chronic-not-curable/

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