Men’s relationships with Enneagram Type 4 individuals and those with BPD are often emotionally intense. Extreme highs and lows characterize these relationships. The connection is passionate and can be unpredictable. In today's episode of the Men’s Therapy Podcast, host Marc Azoulay speaks with returning guest, Tamra Sattler. Sattler is an expert therapist. She has worked extensively with individuals with BPD and those who identify as Enneagram Type 4. She sheds light on the complex dynamics that arise in these relationships. "Enneagram Type 4 is creative, vibrant, and deeply emotional," Sattler explains. "At their healthiest, they bring depth and artistry to relationships. At their most extreme, they may struggle with self-sabotage. They may show emotional outbursts and volatile behavior."

Marc shares his insights, reflecting on past relationships. "I think every woman I dated before my wife was a Type 4. The passion is undeniable, but so are the emotional swings."

For many men, these relationships begin with intense attraction and admiration. A Type 4 partner offers emotional depth and authenticity. This can feel like a refreshing change from the emotional detachment many men have developed. The connection brings a sense of warmth and openness. When the intensity turns toxic, men may feel overwhelmed and confused. This can cause them to question their reality.