The Self-Help Industry would like to convince us that everyone is capable of change. Just drink this! Read this book! Pick up this daily habit! Follow these 5 Steps! But how much change are we really capable of? 

It’s such a tender question that is best reserved for a brilliant and agile mind, so who better to pose this to than the spectacular brain of Malcolm Gladwell? 

In this conversation, Kate and Malcolm discuss:

• Why living in the future is a kind of pernicious myth and why the past is inherently better… (ignore the fact that these are two historians. No bias to see here). 
• How difficult it is to not just interpret a stranger but to love one.
• The case for humility and forgiveness
• Why we should be willing to rethink our certainties

Kate ends with a Blessing When You Are Forced to Change. It may be one we all need during these strange times.

CW: they briefly discuss the abduction, sexual assault, and murder of a child

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