The Struggle Climbing Show

Old School Gyms vs Mega Gyms, Which Is Better for Climbers?


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Andrew Bisharat and Chris Kalous (along with a surprise guest) join to explore:
  • Climbing gym culture of the 90s
  • Trends in corporate vs independent gyms
  • Which gyms prepare climbers better for real rock
  • A case against mega gyms
  • A case for mega gyms 
  • Will soft gym grades result in mass upgrading of classic outdoor climbs?
  • When a local gym closes... and is miraculously saved
  • Is pickle ball competitive with climbing?
  • How dirtbags can help save indie gyms
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    Here are some AI generated show notes (hopefully the robots got it right)

    00:00 Old Gyms vs Mega Gyms

    01:37 Rock Sport Closes
    03:20 Andrew First Gym Memories
    06:35 Chris Early Wall Origins
    11:26 DIY Gym Spirit
    11:51 Rock Sport and Rock Creation
    15:09 Rock Creation Business Model
    20:45 How Many Gyms Exist
    23:32 Gym Growth and Trends
    28:29 Gyms as Outdoor Gateway
    32:26 Case for Mega Gyms
    36:04 Gym Community Vibes
    37:24 Modern Mega Gym Magic
    39:12 Corporate Future Hypothetical
    40:19 Grades Versus Real Rock
    42:48 Setting Ergonomics Limits
    44:34 WALL-E Mega Gym Satire
    46:44 Surprise Guest Joins
    48:21 Saving Rock Sport
    50:29 Keeping the Old Soul
    56:07 Sandbagging and Grade Plans
    58:15 Pickleball and Business
    01:01:47 Gym Ownership Reality Check
    01:07:44 Support Your Local Gyms

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    Shoutout to Aiden Schlatter and Michael Martin for supporting at the Hero level on Patreon. So mega! 

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    This show is produced and hosted by Ryan Devlin, and edited by Glen Walker. The Struggle is carbon-neutral in partnership with The Honnold Foundation and is a proud member of the Plug Tone Audio Collective, a diverse group of the best, most impactful podcasts in the outdoor industry.

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