It’s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today’s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it’s Valentine’s Day, so outside of politics, we’re talking romance!

Topics Discussed

• Why We’re Talking About China

• Jane Perlez on China’s Economy, Surveillance, and Future

• Outside of Politics: Valentine’s Day and Romance

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