In this episode, Andy welcomes Corinna Freitag, a coach and project practitioner, to discuss the importance of interpersonal skills in project management. They explore how to navigate workplace conflicts, the significance of understanding others, and the role of Lean Six Sigma in project management.

Corinna shares her experiences and insights on coaching STEM professionals, particularly those who may struggle with communication and conflict resolution. The conversation emphasizes the need for emotional intelligence and adaptability in leadership roles. Andy and Corinna delve into the significance of breathing techniques for mental well-being, the importance of understanding cultural differences in professional settings, the challenges of self-sabotage, and the continuous journey of personal development.

Do you ever dread going to work on Monday morning? Corinna has practical insights in this episode for you!

• "I had the limiting belief that I am not good with people. And… surprise. Yes. Looks like I am."
• "There is no magic question. It’s about starting to understand the person, not finding the perfect script."
• "If you say, 'This is my saboteur talking,' it’s very different than saying, 'I’m not good enough.'"
• "Assume good intent. To them, their behavior is rational--even if it doesn’t seem that way to you."
• "We never interact with a culture. We interact with a person."
• "My top saboteurs? The Stickler, the Hyper-Achiever, and the Hyper-Vigilant."
• "If you merge a little American boldness with German perfectionism, something great comes out."

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:30 Start of Interview
• 01:50 Corinna's Backstory
• 03:35 Project Management Lessons Corinna Has Learned
• 06:10 Lean Six Sigma and Project Management
• 10:02 Handling Difficult Stakeholders and Conflicts
• 13:52 Coaching Introverted STEM Professionals
• 17:31 Regaining Composure in Stressful Situations
• 21:05 Exploring Breathing Techniques
• 23:30 Lessons About Working Across Cultures
• 28:30 Overcoming Self-Sabotage
• 31:31 Continuous Self-Development
• 32:42 Connecting with Corinna
• 33:18 End of Interview
• 33:38 Andy's Comments After the Interview

You can connect and follow Corinna on LinkedIn at LinkedIn.com/in/DrCorinnaFreitag. And check out her website at CorinnaFreitag.de/.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 397 with Dr. Julia DiGangi about her book Energy Rising. It's a wonderful book and discussion!
• Episode 164 with Derek Rogers and Nick Petrie about their book on stress.
• Episode 143 with Dr. Mark Goulston about his book on dealing with difficult people.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Leadership, Project Management, Coaching, Conflict Resolution, Lean Six Sigma, STEM professionals, Interpersonal Skills, Stakeholder Management, Communication, Culture, Emotional Intelligence, Cross-cultural Communication

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In this episode, Andy interviews Juliana Tafur, the inaugural director of the Bridging Differences Program at UC Berkeley’s Greater Good Science Center. The conversation explores practical strategies for bridging divides in a polarized world, both in personal and professional contexts.

Juliana shares insights from her experiences growing up in a divided Colombia, her work in the U.S. post-9/11, and research on bridging differences. The episode also covers the psychological roots of 'othering' and offers practical advice for fostering connections despite differences. Additionally, resources like the seven-day Campaign for Connection Challenge and the Bridging Differences Playbook are highlighted to help you apply these concepts in your daily life.

What if you could get better at bridging divides in these polarized times? This episode will help you do that!

• "Disconnection is one of the evils of our time."
• "Our brains will always go to labeling. That is just how our brains function."
• "No one is a single label… we are so multi-dimensional."
• "Listening is truly like a hidden superpower."
• "Just by us listening, we are perceived as more trustworthy."
• "You can affirm their feelings while still disagreeing."
• "The value of humility, openness, curiosity, empathy—are not really front and center in our society."

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:11 Start of Interview
• 02:24 Juliana's Background and Influences
• 04:29 Understanding 'Othering' and Tribalism
• 08:42 The Power of Listening with Compassion
• 10:33 Practical Steps for Deep Listening
• 16:40 Real-Life Examples of Bridging Divides
• 24:54 The Problem with Labels
• 27:10 The Seven Day Campaign for Connection Challenge
• 29:54 Resources for Bridging Differences
• 31:47 Teaching Kids to Bridge Differences
• 35:29 End of Interview
• 35:55 Andy's Comments After the Interview
• 39:23 Outtakes

You can learn more about Juliana and her Bridging Differences program at GGSC.Berkeley.edu/What_we_do/Major_Initiatives/Bridging_Differences. You can download the Bridging Differences Playbook and access the Bridging Differences Videos from that page.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 380 with Monica Guzman about her book on a similar topic.
• Episode 371 with Amanda Ripley about her book High Conflict.
• Episode 276 with Buster Benson about his book
• Episode 284 with Peter Boghossian about having what seem like impossible conversations.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Listening, Empathy, Connection, Polarization, Leadership, Communication, Conflict, Project Management

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In this episode, Andy interviews Christian van Nieuwerburgh and Robert Biswas-Diener, authors of the book Radical Listening: The Art of True Connection. The discussion explores the concept of radical listening, distinguishing it from active listening and emphasizing the importance of creating genuine connections through intent, curiosity, and acknowledgment. Christian and Robert share personal anecdotes and practical applications of their listening framework, both in professional settings and personal relationships. They also address the impact of cultural differences on listening practices and provide tips for parents to improve communication with their children. The conversation culminates in an insightful look at the barriers to effective listening and strategies to overcome them.

Whether to help you with your teams at work or loved ones at home, this is a must-listen!

• "Your intention will guide your attention."
• "I started questioning active listening when I started thinking about how much I summarize when I’m with my friends, which is to say I never do it!"
• "If I just go in thinking, ‘What can I learn from the conversation?’ that is going to completely direct what I’m paying attention to."
• "Acknowledgement can’t just be, ‘I have goodwill towards you.’ It actually has to be demonstrated."
• "So one day I thought, ‘Look, I’ve been shouting, I’ve grounded the kid, I’ve taken away his computer, I’ve done everything… maybe I just need to understand what’s going on.’"
• "Not a small portion of my friends, colleagues, and family members were surprised to hear that I was writing a book on listening"

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:59 Start of Interview
• 02:17 What Does Radical Listening NOT Mean?
• 04:54 Distinguishing Radical Listening from Active Listening
• 07:14 When Were You Recently in Listening Mode?
• 11:30 Handling Difficult Conversations with a Team Member
• 16:12 Difficult Conversation with a Relative With Different Political Views
• 20:22 Acknowledging and Interjecting in Conversations
• 28:22 Cultural Considerations in Radical Listening
• 28:53 Understanding Cultural Scripts in Conversations
• 33:21 The Importance of Respectful Listening
• 35:51 Personal Challenges in Listening
• 37:31 Applying Listening Skills in Parenting
• 42:06 End Of Interview
• 42:30 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 47:42 Outtakes

You can learn more about Christian at CoachOnAMotorcycle.com. Also, learn more about Robert at RobertDiener.com.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 371 with Amanda Ripley about her book High Conflict.
• Episode 195 with Celeste Headlee about her book on communication.
• Episode 108 with Doug Stone about his book on receiving feedback.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Listening, Communication, Active Listening, Leadership, Relationships, Engagement, Cultural Sensitivity, Communication Skills, Project Management

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In this episode, Andy talks with Mark Miller about his book Uncommon Greatness: Five Fundamentals to Transform Your Leadership. They discuss the importance of having leaders who believe in and invest in their teams, contrasting common leaders with those who strive for uncommon greatness. The conversation explores Mark’s journey from a vocational track student to a senior leader at Chick-fil-A, highlighting lessons from his childhood and career. Key topics include seeing the future, engaging and developing others, the power of community in teams, and the importance of lifelong learning.

If you're looking to level up your ability to lead, this is a great episode for you!

• "When I walk in a room, I'm trying to figure out how I can add the most value. And sometimes that is to take charge, and sometimes it's to take out the trash."
• "The differentiator is the level of care and concern people have for each other."
• "Certainty is not ours to provide — but clarity is."
• "Lifelong learning is the only path to more influence, impact, and opportunity."
• "If you’re not pursuing something, you’re not leading."
• "You don’t want to call them out--you want to call them up."
• "It's not just about personal excellence--it's about making others better."
• "It’s not about grand gestures. Engagement is built over time through consistent, intentional actions."

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:59 Start of Interview
• 02:50 Mark's Backstory
• 06:08 A Latin Word to Lead By
• 07:45 It's More Than Personal Excellence
• 11:38 How To See the Future
• 16:45 Maintaining a Customer Bias
• 18:04 How to Engage and Develop Others
• 31:12 Advice for Parents
• 34:03 End Of Interview
• 34:21 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 37:16 Outtakes

You can learn more about Mark and his book at LeadEveryDay.com/Uncommon-Greatness. Also, reach out to Mark via his mobile phone at 678-612-8441.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 410 with Ryan Hawk about his book on excellence.
• Episode 391 with Adam Bryant about his wonderfully engaging book on becoming a leader.
• Episode 252 with the Father of the Strengths Movement, Marcus Buckingham.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Leadership, Project Management, Team Development, Engagement, Personal Excellence, High-Performance Teams, Lifelong Learning, Influence

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In this conversation, Andy interviews Dave Garrett, a senior advisor to the CEO at Project Management Institute (PMI). They discuss the evolving definitions of project success, emphasizing the need to go beyond traditional metrics of scope, time, and cost to include value and customer-centric outcomes. Dave shares insights from his extensive experience and PMI's research, introducing the Net Project Success Score (NPSS) and strategies to enhance project success. Topics include the importance of managing perceptions, owning project success beyond metrics, relentlessly reassessing project parameters, and expanding perspectives. The conversation also explores the impact of AI on project management, practical applications of generative AI, and how project managers can leverage these tools to improve effectiveness.

Wondering what the future of project management looks like? Join us for this discussion!

• "Value is a tricky thing to pin down."
• “The Sydney Opera House is a classic example of a project that was considered a failure for a very long time because of cost overruns. It overran from a time perspective, even to a point where the public was very upset about it… over time became known as one of the more successful projects ever."
• "Project success is not binary."
• Our research found that your project success score will double if you do three things: if you set goals up front, if you put in place a system of measurement that aligns and guides decision making, and if you track progress along the way."
• "Success can't be, 'I guess we didn't suck!'"

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:18 Start of Interview
• 01:30 Dave's Backstory
• 03:22 What Dave Does at PMI
• 03:59 Defining Project Success Beyond Traditional Metrics
• 08:03 Perception and Success
• 14:50 Introducing the Net Project Success Score
• 19:11 MORE Framework for Project Success
• 23:13 The Value of Being Customer-Centric
• 24:28 AI's Role in Project Management
• 31:31 PMI Resources
• 34:21 End Of Interview
• 34:39 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 38:58 Outtakes

You can learn more about Project Management Institute at pmi.org.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 424 with Karla Eidem, who joined us to talk about project management trends.
• Episode 319 with Sierra Hampton-Simmons from PMI about the PMP exam.
• Episode 253 with one of the most passionate advocates of PMI: Lee Lambert

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Ways of Working

Topics: Project Management, Value, Success Metrics, Stakeholder Engagement, AI, PMI, Research, Project Success

In this conversation, Andy and Marie-Helene Pelletier explore the concept of resilience, particularly in the context of workplace challenges and personal well-being. They discuss the importance of understanding resilience as a state that can fluctuate rather than a fixed personality trait. Marie shares insights from her book, The Resilience Plan: A Strategic Approach to Optimizing Your Work Performance and Mental Health. She emphasizes the need for strategic planning to enhance resilience and manage burnout. The discussion also covers cognitive patterns that can hinder resilience, the balance of life's demands and supplies, and practical steps to create a personalized resilience plan. Additionally, they touch on the role of parents in fostering resilience in children.

This episode prepares you to handle the demands that come with leading teams and projects. Enjoy!

• “The class went great. I was a wreck.”
• "We know from research that resilience is not a personality trait. It’s a state, which means it will fluctuate over time, which also means we can influence it."
• "Resilience is our ability to go through adversity and come out even stronger."
• "People will tend to minimize the demands they have, and then on the supply side, people will tend to overestimate the sources of energy they have."
• "I think we too easily sacrifice our self-care. We wait for things to fall apart and then we’re like, ‘Oh, I hit burnout.’ What if we were able to put together a resilience plan?”

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:02 Start of Interview
• 02:14 What Got You Into Psychology?
• 04:00 Understanding Resilience Misconceptions
• 05:45 Is Resilience Just Genetics And Personality?
• 08:01 The Role Of Context In Resilience
• 10:43 BEAR Thinking
• 14:25 Supply And Demands Inventory
• 18:13 The Role Of Values
• 26:02 Applying Resilience Strategies To Parenting
• 28:42 End Of Interview
• 29:07 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 32:17 Outtakes

You can learn more about Marie-Helene and her work at DrMarie-Helene.com/.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 398 with Dr. Neha Sangwan about her book on burnout.
• Episode 132 with StrengthsFinder author Tom Rath about energizing the burned out project manager.
• Episode 106, also with Tom Rath, about his book Eat, Move, Sleep.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Resilience, Burnout, Mental Health, Self-Care, Leadership, Personal Development, Emotional Intelligence, Workplace Wellness, Project Management

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In this conversation, Andy talks with Michael Chad Hoeppner to discuss his new book Don't Say Um: How to Communicate Effectively to Live a Better Life. The book is packed with practical drills and insights to improve communication skills. Andy and Michael explore common misconceptions about public speaking, the importance of delivery over content, and practical exercises to enhance communication skills to help you become more confident and effective communicators at work and home.

Michael emphasizes that everyone is a public speaker in their daily lives and that good communication is fundamentally about being other-focused.

Want to speak in a way that people actually listen? This episode is for you!

• “You do make a living by speaking.”
• "There’s no such thing as public speaking—there’s just speaking."
• "If you ever get advice that features the words ‘don’t’ and ‘just’ in a single sentence, you should probably run away from it."
• "Filler words aren’t the problem. They’re a symptom."
• "AI is about to give us perfect content. The real skill? Delivering it well."
• "If every time you speak, you’re trying to sound smart, you’re going to sound dumb."
• "Every time you say 'um,' your brain is asking for time. Give it the time—without the 'um'."
• "If you can tolerate silence, you’ll always sound smarter."
• "The first rule of better posture? Stop thinking about posture."
• "If you’re not getting better at speaking, you’re limiting your career without even realizing it."

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:16 Start Of Interview
• 03:52 Why Are We All Professional Speakers?
• 07:34 What Is Some of the Worst Speaking Advice?
• 11:09 What is Good Communication?
• 14:29 Why is Delivery More Important Than Content?
• 20:40 The GK Lego Drill
• 26:52 About Filler Words Like Um
• 31:32 What You Need to Know About Posture
• 39:19 Advice for Parents
• 44:08 End Of Interview
• 44:39 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 47:50 Outtakes

You can learn more about Michael and his work at GKTraining.com/Michael-Chad-Hoeppner.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 378 with Bill McGowan about his book Pitch Perfect.
• Episode 98 with communications expert Nancy Duarte.
• Episode 349 with Tina Kuhn about her book on communication scenarios.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Public Speaking, Communication Skills, Speaking Tips, Leadership, Filler Words, Posture, Parenting, Storytelling, Project Management

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In this conversation, Andy talks with Adam Galinsky about his new book Inspire: The Universal Path for Leading Yourself and Others. Adam discusses the elements that make a leader truly inspiring, debunking the myth that inspirational qualities are innate rather than developed. The conversation covers Adam's Inspiring Trifecta (being visionary, an exemplar, and a mentor) along with the leader amplification effect. Additionally, they explore actionable strategies from Adam's research, including the importance of perspective-taking, the impact of the leader amplification commitment, and techniques for improving self-awareness and daily practices for sustained inspiration.

Looking for practical advice to inspire those around you? This episode is for you!

• “It’s not, ‘Are you inspiring or infuriating?’ It’s, ‘Are you currently inspiring or infuriating?”
• “Your passion can become their passion. Your calmness in a crisis can become their calmness. But on the flip side, your anxiety can become their anxiety.”
• “Never tell someone, ‘We need to talk,’ without telling them why.”
• “What if every single morning, over a cup of coffee, you sent one email just thanking someone for something they did?”
• “Shame turns us into ostriches. Guilt moves us toward action.”
• “To be visionary, you don’t need to be loud—you need to be clear.”
• “Your leadership isn’t just what you say—it’s what people see.”
• “The question isn’t ‘Are you a great leader?’ The question is, ‘What are you doing right now that makes you one?”

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:37 Start Of Interview
• 01:45 What Inspired You To Get Into Psychology?
• 02:51 What Are Some Common Myths About Inspiration?
• 03:49 Do You Have to Be Extroverted to Be Inspiring?
• 05:51 What's The Difference Between Inspiring and Infuriating Leaders?
• 08:48 Why You Should Never Say "We Need to Talk"
• 13:45 What Is the Leader Amplification Effect?
• 19:07 How Can I Better Get Someone Else's Perspective?
• 22:59 How Does Adam Overcome Feeling Insecure?
• 25:21 What's The Role of Self-Talk In Helping Us Be Inspiring?
• 29:15 How Does Ranking Our Values Help?
• 30:56 How Does Adam Practice Being Inspiring (Introduction to REAP)
• 32:43 Advice for Parents
• 36:11 End Of Interview
• 36:34 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 42:11 Outtakes

You can learn more about Adam and his work at AdamGalinsky.com.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episodes 416 and 153 with Jim Kouzes about leadership.

• Episode 362 with Ayelet Fishbach about her book on motivation.
• Episode 94 with Heidi Grant and Torry Higgins about their work on motivation.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Inspiration, Leadership, Communication, Self-Awareness, Emotional Intelligence, Parenting, Project Management

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In this conversation, Andy interviews Manu Kapur about his book Productive Failure: Unlocking Deeper Learning Through the Science of Failing. They explore the concept of learning through failure and how it can be intentionally designed to enhance understanding and retention. They discuss the importance of context in learning and the science behind memory. Manu and Andy discuss practical strategies for effective learning, particularly in relation to project management and certification exams. Manu introduces the notion of productive failure and its significance in the learning process. He emphasizes the importance of engaging with challenges, understanding the four A's of learning, and applying these principles in real-world scenarios. Manu even shares some ideas for how parents can help their kids reframe how they look at failure.

Want to improve your memory? Learn faster? This episode is for you!

• “If you want to remember, try forgetting a little so that you can use forgetting to remember.”
• “Why do we wait for failure to happen instead of designing for it deliberately and intentionally?”
• “Learning doesn’t just happen when you succeed—it’s the failure signal that tells you you’re in the right place to grow.”
• “Knowledge gets coupled with the context, the smells, and the sights in which you’re learning it.”
• “If everything in your life has a success signal, don’t be too happy—chances are you’re playing it too safe.”
• “We should totally change how we introduce ourselves at parties: guess each other’s names!”

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:31 Start Of Interview
• 03:55 Understanding Productive Failure
• 05:22 The Problems of Learning: Remembering, Understanding, and Transfer
• 08:58 The Theory of Disuse
• 11:39 The Fascinating Concept of Situated Cognition
• 16:00 Why Getting Questions Wrong Helps You Learn
• 20:34 Understanding the Zone of Proximal Development
• 23:06 Designing for Productive Failure
• 28:33 Applying Failure Concepts in Parenting
• 32:12 End Of Interview
• 32:34 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 37:52 Outtakes

You can learn more about Manu and his work at ManuKapur.com.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 15 with Ralph Heath about his book on celebrating failure.
• Episode 432 with Ross Garland regarding why projects fail.
• Episode 116 with Jim Johnson for another discussion about why projects fail.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Productive Failure, Learning, Memory, Project Management, Education, Teaching, Zone Of Proximal Development, Innovation

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In this episode, Andy interviews Rick Czaplewski, who discusses the intersection of project management and negotiation. They explore the importance of negotiation skills for project managers, the significance of building strong relationships with stakeholders, and strategies for dealing with difficult stakeholders. Rick shares personal experiences, including lessons learned from being a cancer survivor, and emphasizes the importance of taking action when delivering bad news. The conversation concludes with advice on teaching negotiation skills to the next generation.

Want to improve your ability to negotiate more confidently? This episode is for you!

• "Project management is a verb. It's an action sport. We're on offense. We have the ball."
• "You want to put out fires as a project manager when they're small campfires before they're raging infernos."
• "If you're in control of yourself, you're in control of the situation."
• "It's okay if you hear the word no."
• "Take that feeling of 'I’m not willing to walk away with a loss' and hang in there."
• "Negotiation isn’t just a skill; it’s a mindset that transforms projects."

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:18 Start Of Interview
• 01:40 Rick's Career Journey
• 03:25 Why Negotiating Skills Are Critical for Project Managers
• 05:30 How We Can Accidentally Set Up Negotiations to Fail
• 08:05 How To Deal With Difficult Stakeholders
• 12:50 Common Mistakes Delivering Bad News
• 17:05 What If Someone Thinks They're Not a Good Negotiator?
• 20:20 How Has Surviving Cancer Shaped Your Perspective?
• 23:00 How Can Parents Help Their Kids Become Better Negotiators?
• 26:46 End Of Interview
• 27:05 Andy Comments After The Interview
• 30:13 Outtakes

You can learn more about Rick and his work at NoOneWalksAlone.com. Also, please leave us feedback about this episode at Talk.ac/rickc?code=PEOPLE.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

• Episode 412 with hostage negotiator Scott Walker.
• Episode 365 with Christie Hunter Arscott about her book for women.
• Episode 258 with Kari Mirabal about You Already Have the No.
• Episode 148 with Daniel Shapiro, founder of the Harvard International Program on Negotiation.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Negotiation, Project Management, Stakeholder Management, Communication Skills, Leadership, Cancer Survivor, Relationship Building, Delivering Bad News, Negotiation Skills, Personal Growth

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