Eric Robertson is back, live from Graham Sessions, and he’s not pulling punches. In this bold and brutally honest conversation, Eric challenges the PT residency model, calls out systemic disconnects in education, and shares a roadmap for fixing it all — with brains, leverage, and a little bit of woo.

???? Want to build better clinicians after graduation?

???? Ready to leverage collective power like dentists and IPAs?

???? Wondering why education and business still operate in silos?

This episode is loaded with smart ideas and spicy solutions for the future of the profession.

???? TIMESTAMPS & CHAPTERS

00:00 – Intro: Jimmy + Eric back on the mic

01:00 – What Graham Sessions gets right about idea sharing

02:30 – Collective bargaining, leverage & mega-groups in PT

04:40 – Lessons from dentistry and managed care

06:10 – Why autonomy isn’t the same as isolation

08:00 – Education & business are not separate universes

09:30 – The big disconnect between DPT programs and real-world readiness

12:00 – Can PT education learn from art school?

13:30 – Redesigning residencies with clinic-defined values

15:00 – Reimagining post-grad training at scale (not just residencies)

17:00 – The pending Grad PLUS loan crisis

18:20 – Why separating education from business is a mistake

20:00 – StrengthsFinder, spreadsheets, and leaning into your superpowers

22:00 – PARTING SHOT: “I want to wreck the accreditation model for residency.”

Lisa VanHoose & Rebekah Griffith on Why PTs Must Lead, Not Wait

Live from Graham Sessions, Jimmy sits down with two of the boldest voices in PT:

• Dr. Lisa VanHoose, PT, PhD, MPH, Professor & Program Director at the University of Louisiana Monroe
• Dr. Rebekah Griffith, The ED DPT, expert in Emergency Department Physical Therapy

Topics covered:

• Why the PT profession is stuck in a burning building
• Subpar care, imposter syndrome, and employee mindsets
• Primary care PT and the problem with 83-word definitions
• Why marketing isn’t enough—you have to BE the change
• Spicy Graham Sessions takes about DEI, generational gaps, and leveling up

Live from APTA HQ at Graham Sessions, Jimmy sits down with David Harris, CEO of PRO~PT Physical Therapy. With over two decades in the profession and leadership roles at Ivy, Spear, and now PRO~PT, David brings deep insight into how physical therapy needs to evolve.

They cover:

• What’s getting in our own way as a profession
• How to actually message MSK and primary care to the public
• Bringing AI and scribe tools into a 120-clinician organization
• Wins over the last 15 years (Direct Access, DPT, policy wins)
• Leadership tips for clinic owners and execs

In this live episode from APTA’s Graham Sessions, Jimmy sits down with Steven Coen — CEO of SaRA Health — to talk about the untapped power of Remote Therapeutic Monitoring (RTM). Steven explains how most clinics are already doing 90% of the work — but not getting paid for it. Learn why naming your RTM program matters, how text messages can save lives, and what the new CMS Access program means for the future of value-based rehab.

What You’ll Learn:

• What RTM really is (and isn’t)
• How to increase plan of care completion
• Why branding your patient communication program matters
• Where CMS is heading with value-based PT payment
• How one simple text saved a patient’s life post-op

Guest:

???? Steven Coen, CEO of SaRA Health

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Josh Funk, PT from Rehab 2 Perform, joins Jimmy live from Graham Sessions to talk about:

• How communication drives clinical and business success
• When to delegate your brand messaging
• Why PTs need to master CAC, ROAS, and internal vs. external language
• How clarity can fuel growth — and bigger paychecks

You’ll learn what Rehab 2 Perform did at 4 clinics that set them up to scale — and what most practices overlook when it comes to marketing.

GUEST LINKS

Website: https://rehab2perform.com

Two clinicians from different worlds, one vision for the future of rehab. At Graham Sessions, Jimmy sits down with Ali Hartman, DPT and CrossFit enthusiast, and Bethany Ayer, OT and AI strategist, for a wide-ranging conversation about burnout, purpose, and rebuilding the systems we work in.

TAKEAWAYS INCLUDE:

• Why prevention and performance still don’t get the spotlight in PT
• What AI is actually doing in healthcare (not the hype)
• “Conversion factor” of effort vs reward in today’s clinic
• Why doing well and doing good shouldn’t be either/or
• Borrowing solutions from other professions (yes, even engineers!)

???? Featured Guests:

???? Ali Hartman, DPT

• Focus: Prevention, industrial wellness, CrossFit, performance

???? Bethany Ayer, OTR/L, MBA

• Clinical Sales Lead
• Background in EMR strategy, AI, OT clinical practice

Philip Goldsmith, PT, MSPT, EMT, DScPT, is the President of APTA Home Health and a clinical expert in home health care. He joins Jimmy LIVE from APTA Private Practice’s Graham Sessions for a candid conversation on:

• Why physical therapists aren’t practicing at the top of their license
• How home health is leading innovation in PT
• The psychology of “permission-seeking” in our profession
• A revolutionary CEU opportunity — on a cruise ship
• What Graham Sessions is (and isn’t) talking about yet
• The legacy PTs can leave when they own their full scope

???? Learn more about “ACHH at Sea” → https://aptahomehealth.org

Jimmy chats with Patrick Graham — one of the three co-founders and namesake of the Graham Sessions — about the evolution of the event, the ideas that have shaped physical therapy, and what the future holds as the 20th anniversary approaches.

From confidentiality to boldness, Patrick unpacks what makes the Graham Sessions unlike any other gathering in healthcare.

KEY DISCUSSIONS INCLUDE:

• The purpose and rules of the Graham Sessions
• Why some ideas last and others fade
• What PTs can learn from dentistry
• How education and tech are reshaping the profession
• The importance of asking the right question

QUOTABLE:

“Ask the question. That's where every big idea starts.”

In this special episode recorded live at Graham Sessions, Jimmy talks with clinic owner Mike Reing and Marymount University DPT Dean Skye Donovan about what’s broken in the profession — and what it’ll take to fix it.

You’ll hear:

• Why clinic owners are frustrated with declining reimbursement
• How to actually hire and retain new grads
• The divide (and opportunity) between academics and business
• What PT education needs to teach that it currently doesn’t
• Why optimism still matters — and how to find it

Whether you’re a student, academic, or clinic owner, this conversation hits on the real tension — and the real possibilities — in PT today.

???? Resources & Links

• Marymount DPT Program: https://marymount.edu
• USPH Careers: https://usphcareers.com
• Brooks IHL: https://brooksihl.org
• Empower EMR: https://www.empoweremr.com

????️ Sponsors:

• Pre-Roll: Empower EMR → “Upgrade your clinic’s brain with EMPOWER EMR. Better notes, smoother workflows, and support that doesn’t ghost you.” → https://www.empoweremr.com
• Mid-Roll: U.S. Physical Therapy → “Leadership tracks, mentorship, and career growth — all in a national network built for PTs.” → https://usph.com
• Pre-Parting Shot: Brooks IHL → “Residencies, fellowships, and CE that shape better clinicians — not just give you letters.” → https://brooksihl.org

Jason takes us hole-by-hole through life as a PT on the PGA Tour. From Augusta’s Amen Corner to the Olympic Games, he shares the day-to-day demands, the team behind the players, and how data, recovery, and PT have fused into elite golf performance.

• How Jason landed his first gig in pro golf
• Managing recovery for 100,000+ swings/year
• What separates a good PT from a tour-level PT
• Balancing ambition with patience in a sports career
• The role of wearable tech (Whoop) and HRV
• Golfers + AI + Performance stats = The future

• Profiles in Audacity (book)
• Huberman Lab Podcast
• Lex Fridman Podcast
• Joe Rogan / Theo Von for downtime
• Shirley Sahrmann’s Movement Systems

• PT Team: Corey Hugg, Digby Watt, Chris O'Neill, Jason Waddles, Johnny Eichner, Kyle Yamashiro, Frank Wang
• PGA, Korn Ferry, Champions Tours coverage team

???? Topic: The Real Reason Recovery Matters More Than Ever on Tour

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Clip this around 23–27 min mark — it's visual, quantifiable, and deeply relevant to both PTs and athletes.

Text on Screen:

“Inside Pro Golf PT” (top)

“100,000 Swings. 1 PT Team.” (bottom, bold)

Visuals:

• ???? Split image: Jason in front of the PGA trailer + iconic Amen Corner backdrop
• ???? Overlay: “HRV | Recovery | Scoring Data”
• Bright green/blue tones for golf + clean white text for visibility

Make sure Jason’s face is visible and smiling — credibility + trust.

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