Recovery Elevator

Today we have Arlina. She took her last drink on April 22, 1994 and has been alcohol free for 25 years. This is her story.

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On today's episode Paul discuses an article that a listener sent him regarding the term, 'sober curious'. This article was published in the New York Times and can be found here.

What is sober curious? The term is pretty straight forward, it refers to those that are curious about exploring a life without alcohol. But it can be unpacked even more. To some, sober curious may mean that they never had a drinking problem, but they had a problem drinking. In the article the author describes the sober curious as young professionals that are kind of, just a little bit, addicted to booze.

Paul feels that that bulk of this demographic of sober curious people are what would be referred to as high bottom drunks. They are beginning to experience consequences from their drinking and they are becoming curious to what a life without alcohol would look like.

SHOW NOTES

[9:30] Paul introduces Arlina.

Arlina is 50 years old and had her last drink on her 25th birthday. She grew up in Silicon Valley. She is married and has 2 sons. Arlina has a podcast, enjoys yoga, hiking and going for walks. She is soon to be the owner of a bulldog puppy.

[15:05] Give us a background on your drinking.

Arlina says she feels her drinking was garden variety. She started drinking at a young age, between 8-10 years old, and says she didn't realize how bad she felt until she felt good from drinking. She says from her first drink to her last she wanted to be anybody but herself.

[19:00] Was there a rock bottom moment that led up to you having your last drink on your 25th birthday?

Arlina says she had a series of rock-bottom moments. She never knew what emotion to expect when she would drink, she would either be crying or fighting. Even after a night out with her sister, in which Arlina got drunk, punched her windshield a couple times, breaking it, kicked her sister (who was driving) in the face, her sister getting help from the neighbors, the police being called, and waking up with that incomprehensible demoralization, it took hearing that her sister had gone to Al-anon for her to connect her drinking with alcoholism. Arlina wrestled with that thought for 2 years.

[23:20] Talk to us about when you finally reached that conclusion.

Arlina says it was a very humbling experience because she had defined alcoholism as something so negative. Hating who she was anyway and then adding alcoholic and drug addict to it was overwhelming. What had been her solution had become her executioner.

[25:55] What was it like in early sobriety?

Arlina says it was overwhelming, but that she was relieved of the obsession to consume alcohol the day after her birthday. She discovered she was kind of high maintenance. She needed a morning routine, turning her life and her will over to God, and had to nurture a conscious contact with God throughout the day. She attended a lot of meetings a week and service played a large part.

[31:22] Let's talk about the why behind your drinking. Do you agree that alcohol is but a symptom?

Arlina agrees 100% that alcohol is but a symptom. She says she las learned that the brain will try and protect you from your pain, and if you can't get out of it, it will develop a distraction, and that could be alcoholism or any other addiction. Time does not heal all wounds; pain waits and lessons are repeated until they are learned.

[37:27] Earlier you talked about chasing a feeling, how do you chase that feeling without alcohol.

Arlina says the feeling that she was chasing was relief. She likes to feel happiness and joy and she finds that in the service work she does. When she can do something to alleviate someone else's suffering she feels like she is fulfilling her purpose and that is when she feels the most joy.

[42:00] Talk to us about your podcast, The ODAAT Chat. **Arlina also has a website by the same name and you can find it here.

Arlina originally started a sales podcast, but says it was really on her heart to do one on recovery. She was conflicted because in the 12 traditions it says to maintain our anonymity at the level of press, radio and film. Following the tragic death of a friend, who had attended a 6 AM meeting called ODAAT, she decided to be bold and follow her heart. The podcast has added some pressure but also has brought joy to Arlina.

[46:40] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

Puking my guts out at a San Francisco Giants game in front of a whole bunch of fancy people.

1. Year 26, how's it going to happen?

It's going to happen one day at a time. This morning I went for a walk and broke out an amazing book called Jesus Calling and read that. I drew my Gabby Bernstein card and I use the Headspace app to do some meditation and I find if I do that routine in the morning my day goes so much better.

1. In regards to sobriety what is the best advice you have ever received?

Follow your heart.

1. What parting piece of advice can you give to listeners?

Open your mind and your heart and you'll be amazed before you are halfway through.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

You end up in an AA meeting.

Resources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/style/sober-curious.html

http://odaatchat.com/

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"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Odette. She took her last drink on December 17, 2018. This is her story.

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On today's episode Paul talks about control and how it relates to the level of an addiction. The more our drinking gets out of control the more we try and control our external environments. This is the main driver why control is such an important concept to deepen with so we can become aware of the level of control we placing on the external environment.

We are left with 2 choices. Option 1 is to do nothing, and that is not what this podcast is about. That leaves us with option 2. Get ready to saddle up. Once an addiction is been acknowledged it can no longer be ignored, and it cannot be addressed without making major life changes. Changes like a new self-image, your perception, a new consciousness, your ideas and beliefs, your entire life's foundations. That's a lot of change, and as humans we resist change.

SHOW NOTES

[8:10] Paul introduces Odette.

Paul first chatted with Odette on episode 128, which came out on July 31st 2017, when she had 1 week of sobriety, he encourages you to go back and listen to that episode. Today, Odette hit a big milestone…she has 6 months of sobriety.

Odette is originally from Guadalajara, Mexico, but has been living in San Diego for almost 10 years. She is married and a mom to 2 toddlers, Max and Sienna. She works fulltime at WeWork. Odette loves bowling for fun, says it's probably her favorite thing, and she will fight anyone who says that it's not a sport. She also loves to try new teas and lately you will find her doing puzzles.

[11:50] Give us a background on your drinking.

Odette says she's been in the recovery world for a decade. Her dad is a recovering alcoholic and he's about to hit his 10 year, so she was first exposed to recovery through him. She likes to say that his addiction has become the biggest gift, not just to herself, but to her entire family. Odette also developed an eating disorder, which she says is her first addiction, if it has to be labeled. Odette says that although she's been in the recovery world for a while, in terms of drinking, she thinks she falls into the 'gray area drinker' category. She doesn't have a catastrophic story to tell in terms of her relationship with alcohol.

Because of this it's been a real journey for Odette to figure out if she really belonged here or if she didn't belong here, if she really had a problem with drinking. What really changed things for Odette was something that she keeps telling people. You don't have to have a serious drinking problem to have a problem with drinking, and she definitely knew that she had a problem with drinking.

[16:05] In regards to alcohol and your eating disorder, what is your thoughts on addiction whack-a-mole?

Odette thinks addiction whack-a-mole is a thing and that it is really important that we become ambassadors of being graceful to ourselves. The addictions become more manageable now, not because it's easier, but because there's this sense of awareness. Odette says she still sometimes eats when she's not hungry, and that things that are part of her eating disorder chapter still come up, but she is aware of it now. She realizes that she just didn't want to feel the feelings, so she ate.

[21:43] Talk to us about the time between when you were first on the podcast until now?

Odette struggled a lot, because, she says she is a binary person, and is like a lot of others in recovery who are in that gray area. And not just with drinking but the gray area of life. She loves fitting in boxes and labeling herself, and that is something that she really been trying to detach from these last 6 months. She stopped questioning where she belonged and if she belonged and started asking herself different questions, like how she was feeling when she drank or if she was trying to cope with something. She had to get a little creative with her questions because she was getting the same results when asking the same old questions.

[26:55] Talk to us about the unknown and how you leaned into it.

The unknown is very scary for Odette. She knew, as she was stacking days this third time around, that fear was going to creep up on her. So she grounded herself with people who have really good messages around fear because she didn't expect that fear to go away. She learned to develop a different relationship with her fear.

[34:33] Let's talk about the concept of internal vs. external, where do you feel you are?

Odette feels like it's shifting, and that she is discovering a lot of things. She also believes a lot of it is linked to her eating disorder because she did not have a connection with her body was feeling at all. Odette has been focusing on the internal and the physical.

[36:40] Share with us how fun it is to meet up at our retreats, like our one coming up in Bozeman next month.

Odette says she stopped calling them retreats and has started calling them "sober camp", because they are just that much fun. Bozeman will be Odette's 3rd retreat and says that they are such amazing fuel and that the connections and friendships she has made are now like family.

[37:50] Talk to us about a time, in the last 6 months, that it got tough and you overcame it without alcohol?

The last 3-4 months have been extremely challenging for Odette. As all the layers are coming off Odette says it feels very raw and at times very heartbreaking. She has done a lot of reconciling the last 5 months with decisions from the past. She says she is not living in the past, but reconciling with what has brought her to where she is right now.

[42:30] Talk to us about the emotion, Joy, and when it first showed up for you.

Odette used to have so many highs and so many lows it was though she was on a roller coaster. Nowadays she aims for contentment. She lets things pass her by and finds joy in the smallest things. She finds herself getting teary eyed just looking at her daughter or while listening to a song while driving. For Odette joy is found in the simple things and the quietness.

[47:05] What themes are you exploring right now in your recovery?

Intention is a big one, and not being tied to an outcome. Odette feels like she was tied to external outcomes in the beginning and she is distancing herself from that now. Also, she says she is learning to let go of control.

[51:00] Walk us through a day in your recovery.

Odette is an early riser and wakes up between 4:30-5:00 AM. Exercise is one of her biggest tools in her tool belt so she tries to get in some sort of it first thing in the morning. She does daily reading each morning and spends some quality time with her family. She goes to work, listens to a podcast or Marco Polo's with someone, and spends her lunch outside because nature is another big tool in her tool belt. After work she is busy being mom, making dinner and lunches. She has a BBT rule…bed by ten. Her weekends are slower and way less structured.

[55:44] Rapid Fire Round

1. In regards to sobriety what is the best advice you have ever received?

You can't do this alone…but you have to be your own cheerleader.

1. What parting piece of advice can you give to listeners?

Trust your gut.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

You burn all the ships and you still drink.

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"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Mark. He took his last drink on April 19th, 2019 - This is his story.

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Paul also talks about calming the mind through meditation. The word meditation comes from the word meditacioun, which means to ponder, and it has been around for a very long time.

What is meditation? Meditation is about letting thoughts go. It is about loosening the energetic ties to the past and the future. It is about being present and focusing on what is, the reality you are currently witnessing. Meditation is about lowering brain waves to a more relaxed state. Meditation is a skill and it takes practice.

What meditation is not. Meditation isn't not thinking. It isn't about obtaining or getting anything, or discovering who you are. It is not going into a trance. Meditation isn't selfish, it all starts from the inside out. 😉

SHOW NOTES

[15:50] Paul introduces Mark.

Mark lives in Perth, Australia, which is one of the most remote cities in the world. For work he is a financial professional. He is 43 years old, married with 2 daughters. For fun Mark likes to camp, exercise and read.

[18:45] Give us a background on your drinking.

Mark started drinking in his teens and he says he pretty much to a liking to it right away. It made him feel like a different person and got him out of his shell. In his early 20s he went to college and continued drinking there. There was about 3-4 years during his 20s that he got really serious about running and would quit drinking for 49 weeks a year while he was training.

Mark says that once he stopped taking his running so serious, stopped the training, and got a job that there was a turning point and his drinking started to creep up to just about every day. Mark was in his 30s now.

In 2017, at the age of 41, Mark had his real first attempt at sobriety.

[20:50] Was there a rock bottom moment in 2017 that propelled your attempt at sobriety?

There wasn't a rock bottom moment for Mark, he says it was more like a series of bad nights. He started to realize that his drinking was involuntary and he felt like it was something that was just happening to him.

After one night in particular where he drank 2 bottles of wine and getting to work late feeling horrendous, he decided he had just had enough. After doing some googling on cutting back and found a website called Hello Sunday Morning, where people posted about cutting back. The website encouraged doing a 3 to 12-month time of no drinking. Mark decided to try the 3 months and after successfully doing that and feeling good he decided to go for the 12 months.

Looking back now he says it was a really good year. He got healthy and got a lot done at home and at work. But something was missing.

[22:22] Go back a little, when did you start to realize that it was getting harder to stop once you started?

Mark drank beer and wine and would find himself drinking whenever he would meet up with someone. And he didn't just drink one or two, he drank hard. It was almost as if he was running his life around alcohol. He would never meet someone at a café, he would always meet people at a pub or bar.

[24:15] So you're cruising through 2017 dry, on willpower, how much time did you get?

Mark says he didn't make it the 12 months. He made it until mid-August, the same time he and his wife bought their home. He celebrated that purchase with a bottle of champagne. He says as soon as he had that bottle of champagne the wheels came off. He also felt that because he went 8-9 months without drinking that he had changed his relationship with alcohol. About a month after drinking the bottle of champagne he was back drinking just as hard as before.

[26:00] Once you were back to drinking hard a month later did you stop and think 'oh shit'?

He really didn't. He just got back into it and by 2018 he was telling people that after his dry year he was back to drinking and that he had a different relationship with alcohol, which he now thinks was a supreme exercise of self-deception.

[26:50] When did this self-deception end?

Mark says really only this year, around April 30th. After sharing a bottle of wine with his wife on April 29th she went to bed and he went outside with another bottle of wine. He started to think about what he was doing and started to get angry. He thought about what a great year 2017 had been and now there he was by himself drinking himself to oblivion. It was a feeling of self-disgust. He went back into the house and said, to himself, that he was done, again.

[28:45] What do you think was different that time?

Mark says its really hard to explain, but that he realized that there was no sense of joy drinking that bottle of wine.

[29:45] Talk to me about how you realized that there were no hopes in moderation.

In 2017 when he was reading blogs on that website a lot of people talked about AA. He didn't really like the idea of AA because of the religious aspect and the surrendering part. Now fast-forwarding to 2019 he started to understand what the surrender thing was about. He has decades showing that moderation does not work for him.

[32:30] What was that first week like after April 30, 2019?

It was just a different feeling that this time it's not a 12-month test of willpower. This time Mark just had to accept that it was over between him and alcohol. He says it felt liberating to just admit that he'd had enough and that he didn't want to be involved with alcohol anymore.

[34:25] Talk to us about the accountability you set up this time.

His wife was the first person he told, and he waited a few weeks before even doing that. He was nervous and shaking but she told him she was proud of his and has been supportive. He has also told some guys at work and has found support there as well.

[39:48] Have you had any intense cravings since April 30, 2019?

Mark says that the cravings have not been bad, surprisingly, but he does drink non-alcoholic beer and wine and he feels it helps.

[46:00] What is on your bucket list in sobriety?

To enjoy each day and the simple pleasures that come with being sober.

[46:55] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

Getting really, really, passing out drunk on my 40th and being told the next day that my oldest daughter, who was 5 at the time, was just standing there looking at me with a sense of distress.

1. When was your 'oh-shit' moment?

That moment out in the backyard when I was sitting there with a 2nd bottle for no good reason at all.

1. What's your plan moving forward?

I have more accountability to put in place, a few more people to talk to about it. I really do want to engage more with other alcoholics.

1. What's your favorite resource in recovery?

I'm on a blog website called Booze Musings and I have a few things on my reading list.

1. In regards to sobriety what's the best advice you've received?

When I think about drinking just play the tape forward. Remember who you are. If I want that, then I can't have this.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

When its your shot for beers you buy yourself 2

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"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Melissa. She has a sobriety date of October 29, 2018. This is her story.

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Paul shares one of his favorite emails. Dale from Pittsburgh says…Paul, you son of a bitch. You have completely ruined alcohol for me.

Your experience with alcohol may no longer be the same after listening to the podcast! Don't worry about the how…that always solves itself.

SHOW NOTES

[11:00] Paul introduces Melissa.

Melissa says that sobriety is the most badass gift she has given herself. The biggest milestone. She is from Vancouver Canada. She is 44 years old and has a 12-year-old son and a 1-year old rescue dog. Melissa has been a business owner for the last 5 years. For fun she likes to walk in the forest.

[16:20] What is something you want to try out in sobriety?

Scuba diving!

[17:30] Give us a background on your drinking.

Melissa had her first drink when she was 15. She got drunk the first time she drank and the kids at school thought she was cool. Her parents got divorced when she was 16 and she took the roll of mom to her younger siblings. In high school she started dating guys that were older and was going to night clubs. When she graduated high school, and turned 18, she started bartending. In 1998 she moved to the Cayman Islands and lived there for 5 years. She drank a lot and her drinking progressed. When she was 27 years old, she moved back home. She got married and they had a son. As she got older, she started to become verbally abusive when she drank. That's when the blackouts started to happen.

January 2010 they separate, her son is 3 years old at the time. A few months later, while she is volunteering a police officer approaches her and takes her back to her house. Once she is home she finds out that her brother hit a tree while snowboarding and died.

[29:50] bring us up to speed to your sobriety date.

2011…she gets together with a new man. He was an enabler and he let her drink the way she wanted to drink. On October 29th, after begging him to give her another chance, she walked into an AA meeting.

[35:40] What was that first meeting like?

Melissa says she was a mess. Two old-timers took her under their wings and she will never forget them. She went to meetings every single day for the first month.

[36:35] What did it mean to surrender?

Melissa realized that she was powerless. The mental obsession was too much and she gave up.

[46:42] What have you learned about yourself?

The most important thing Melissa has learned about herself is that she has so much to give.

[47:28] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

Waking up in the middle of the floor and not know what I drank.

1. What's your favorite resource in recovery?

Definitely the podcast and AA.

1. In regards to sobriety what's the best advice you've received?

Trust the process.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

You're not alone.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

Your 7-year-old son begs you to go to the wine shop after school so he can get the free puck that comes with the bottle of wine you drink.

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"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Sara. She took her last drink on January 16, 2019.

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On today's episode Paul shares an internet meme that he saw and loved…

"Only in my pain, did I find my will.

Only in my chaos, did I learn to be still.

Only in my fear, did I find my might.

Only in my darkness, did I see my light."

Starting to see a theme, Paul added a few lines…

Only through my self-loathing was I able to love myself.

Only through my fears was I able to see how little it has ever served me.

Only through guilt was I able to see that all humans make mistakes, and I'm human.

Only through shame did I realize I don't owe anyone in life an explanation, ever again.

Only through my failures was I able to see what I was doing wrong and then make the necessary corrections.

Only through blacking out was I able to recognize the misery with living without light.

Only with a crushing headache after a heavy night of drinking was I able to appreciate a clear mind.

Only through my addiction was I able to see the path that I didn't want to take and clearly see that path that I did want to take.

The trend we are seeing here is called 'the backward law'. It when we experience the suffering before we experience the bliss on the other side. This is also Newton's first law of motion.

If you ignore the nudge to quit drinking it will quickly become an elbow to the shoulder, a kick to the groin, then a full Andre the Giant body slam.

SHOW NOTES

[10:00] Paul introduces Sara.

Sara with a sobriety date of January 16, 2019, has been sober for 4 months, 22 days. She is from Melbourne, Australia. She is 36 years old. Sara is single and is studying counseling and coaching. She loves to read nonfiction books on human behavior, phycology, self-development, and relationships.

[13:00] Give us a background on your drinking.

Sara started drinking at the age of 13. She says from the beginning she couldn't moderate and that alcohol gave her a sense of belonging. Over the years she found herself gravitating towards friendships with people that liked to drink. All her friends liked to party but she had a vague feeling that wasn't a healthy way to live.

[14:31] When did you first have the notion that it wasn't a healthy way to live?

Sara says it was a long time before she realized it wasn't a healthy way to live but she did know was that the repercussions from her drinking were terrible straight off the bat. Every time Sara drank, she would do something she was ashamed of. She never had an off switch and never had a time when she was a 'normal' drinker.

[15:25] Talk to us about your 20s.

By the time she was 17 Sara had a calendar on the wall and was ticking off days that she didn't drink. She could only get 2 days straight and found it frustrating why she couldn't get more. This caused her to feel shame and inadequacy as a human. In her 20s she was a bargirl. She would go to the bars with her friends or alone. At 21 she felt the desperation of not knowing what to do about her drinking, she found herself on her knees at a park begging for help. Her prayers were not answered and she continued to drink and continued to do geographicals within Melbourne.

At 28 Sara decided to go overseas. She was struggling with her purpose in life and thought she would find herself and sort her drinking out. Instead of finding herself she just found a whole lot of bars. Looking back on that time it feels like wasted time because instead of seeing the world she just drank.

[20:25] When did you decide to go back to Australia and that maybe quitting drinking was part of the grander scheme of things?

Sara had actually gone to AA when she was 23 and had given up drinking for about 6 months, so she knew AA existed, so she ended up going back to AA in Scotland and England. She had stints of 6 months and 3 months sobriety and says that was some of the most joyous times of her travels.

[20:55] What do you think happened after those 6 most joyous months?

Sara says her headspace happened. It told her she was cured and that she had evolved in those 6 months, and could drink moderately.

[21:45] So did you then make it back to Australia, is that where you got sober?

In 2012 Sara returned to Australia. Once back in Australia she pulled away from the pub crowd and was spending more time with just her friends or at home, so she was getting in less trouble but her drinking became more of a daily thing. In the last couple of years alcohol was the only thing that would make her happy.

[25:10] Was there a rock bottom moment on January 15, 2019? Tell us what it was like on January 16?

No, Sara was sick and tired of being sick and tired. She says she started out on the pink cloud and that lasted about 2 months. She went to an AA meeting on day 1 because she knew that the times she had the longest stretches of sobriety was when she was active in AA. She is still active in AA.

[27:15] What was the first month like? What was different this time?

She said she was not running on fear but that there was a healthy fear there that reminded her she needed to do what she could. Instead of looking for the differences at meetings she was looking for the similarities. She realized that she was not reaching her full potential when drinking alcohol.

[30:30] What's on your bucket list in sobriety?

To become more of a dedicated student with her counseling. She loves to dance and wants to get back into doing that.

[37:08] What results are you seeing from the communication between your adult self and your child self?

Old beliefs are getting brought up and Sara is able to see why she responds in certain ways to certain triggers. She is hyperaware of her triggers now and is addressing them.

[39:10] Why do you think you drank?

Sara's says her parents met in rehab so she feels there is some genetics that come into play, along with some childhood trauma. Alcohol helped her feel like she belonged.

[43:15] What are your thoughts on relapse?

Sara feels that relapses are par for the course and her relapses taught her so much, she didn't realize that at the time, but looking back now she recognizes it.

[44:43] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

The no memory memories. The moment of dread and horror while trying to piece the night together.

1. When was your oh-shit moment?

I was in Scotland and I was gifted a free week's trip on a yacht. I hadn't been drinking for 6 months and I decided I would drink at sea. The first 6 nights were fine…night 7 found her sneaking onto a cruise liner, stealing bottles of alcohol, getting caught, and waking up in a 90-year-old lady's home but not knowing where she was.

1. What's your plan in sobriety moving forward?

I want to thrive and lead a joyous and fulfilling life.

1. In regards to sobriety what's the best advice you've received?

One day at a time.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

Get really honest with yourself, ask yourself, "how long have I been trying to moderate? And has it been working?"

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

It's 3 AM and your ex-boyfriend's housemate finds you outside of the house, ¾ ways up a tree, and when he asks you what you are doing you say, "I'm being a ninja", and you proceed to fall out of the tree onto the ground and laugh like a maniac.

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"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Chris with a sobriety date of February 12, 2019.

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On today's episode Paul shares 8 strategies that you can implement when you are going through hard times.

1. Everything can, and will, change.
2. You've overcome challenges before.
3. Recognize this life situation as a learning experience, AKA an opportunity.
4. You may not be getting what you want, but you are getting what you need.
5. Lighten up, do not take yourself to seriously.
6. You can self-medicate with kindness to yourself.
7. Don't make it worse by taking on other people's tough times.
8. There is always something to be happy for.

SHOW NOTES:

[13:40] Paul introduces Chris.

Chris has been sober since February 12, 2019 and is 35 years old. He is a technology trainer for a finance company. He is divorced and has three boys, ages 15, 10 and 7. For fun Chris likes to sing and play guitar in a band, he also does improv and stand up comedy. Since getting sober he is exercising a lot.

[14:20] When did you start drinking?

He had his first drink, tequila he had stole from his parents, at the age of 11. He was in an AOL chat room at the time and he says it gave him liquid courage to chat freely, and he was hooked.

[16:20] Give us a more background about your drinking.

Chris's drinking didn't really get going until his sophomore year of high school. It ramped up quickly and he was experiencing black outs by his junior year. Chris also got his 1st, of 3, DUIs his junior year of high school. He started losing friends and girlfriends because of his drinking and by his senior year he was trying to get sober. He started college after high school and got his 2nd DUI at 19 years old. His first son was also born when Chris was 19. For the majority of his 20's he replaced his drinking with marijuana. He married the mother of his son and they had two more. In 2013 they got divorced. Chris's pot smoking was a big part of why they got divorced. After his divorce he went back to drinking. Within a month, at the age of 29, Chris got his 3rd DUI.

[25:58] Was there some sobriety time between 2013 and February 2019?

He had some forced sobriety time due to being on probation from his 3rd DUI. When all his legal issues were over in 2015, he went back to smoking pot and drinking, and he added taking Adderall into the mix. On February 11th he went to a family member and told them that he was taking Adderall and not as prescribed. He wanted help. The first 3 days of his sobriety he stayed with family. He also called the doctor that prescribed the Adderall and "burnt the ships".

[33:55] What was your first month off the substances like?

It took him a few days to get his sleep schedule back to normal, but Chris says he had so much fun that the first weekend he spent with his boys off of all substances. He started to flip things around and instead of looking at sobriety as missing out on something he started looking at it as what he was gaining. He was choosing to be happy, and he was.

[40:10] What are some of the tools you've used these last 4 months?

He listens to recovery podcasts, like Recovery Elevator and Recovery Happy Hour. The online support group and forum is always there. Chris also reads a lot of self-help books.

[43:00] What advice would you give to your younger self?

He would tell himself to love himself more and that he is worth more than he thinks, but he also feels like he needed to go through all the things he went though to get to where he is now.

[44:45] Do you know why you were using substances?

Chris says that his internal self didn't feel good enough, and to hide those feelings he used.

[45:50] What have you learned about yourself, along the way, that stands out?

Chris leaned that he can change, that he is capable of positive change.

[47:00] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

Getting so drunk at a neighbor's house that his kids had to go home to their mother's house and having to call the next morning, realizing his drinking was affecting his kids.

1. What's your plan in sobriety moving forward?

To keep moving and not get comfortable.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

If you think you have an issue then you probably do, try quitting for 30 days. You can do it.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

You're listening to this podcast. Also, if you're shopping for fancy craft beer and you have to look at the alcohol by volume percentage of each beer, before you buy it. And if you don't find the alcohol by volume you break out your phone and google it, because anything under 5% would not be worth the can allowance.

Resources:

Sobriety Tracker iTunes

Sobriety Tracker Android

Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to [email protected]

"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Tim, with 2 days of sobriety. This is how we quit.

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On today's episode Paul talks about 2 articles that discuss alcohol use. Links for these articles can be found following the show notes.

The first article, published on May 7, 2019 in USA Today, says that alcohol use is soaring worldwide, with the average adult now consuming about 1.7 gallons of pure alcohol per year. Just in the past 27 years the total volume of alcohol that people consumed globally increased by 70%. Even though on a global level alcohol consumption is increasing, if you are listening to this podcast you have made it further than 95% of people out there. You are starting to make changes.

On the brighter side, an article published on January 17, 2018 in Bloomberg, reported that Americans drank less alcohol in 2018, for the third straight year. Total cases of beer, wine and spirits consumed in the US dropped by .8% in 2018. This was the third straight year that there had been a decline in consumption. So globally people are consuming more alcohol, but in the United States consumption is declining.

There's a new term called 'sobor curious', which includes a large population that doesn't necessarily have an issue with alcohol, but are waking up and are recognizing that maybe messages that big alcohol is telling us aren't panning out to be true in real life.

SHOW NOTES

[12:30] Tim, with a sobriety date of May 13, 2019, has 2 days sober. After having this interview scheduled for about a week Tim emailed Paul to let him know that he had drank. He felt like he might not be the ideal candidate to be on the podcast. After reading the email, Paul let Tim know that he is exactly who he wants to have on the podcast.

[15:10] Paul introduces Tim.

Tim is 36 years old and was born, and raised, in Boston Massachusetts. He came from an Italian family that was in the construction industry. In middle and high school, he developed a real passion for music. He dedicated himself to hours and hours of voice, guitar and piano lessons, which led him into a career in ministry as a worship leader. Tim got married at 19 and is still married to the same woman, they are about to celebrate 17 years and have 3 children. His career in ministry is in the past and he is working as a project manager for a company that installs high end woodworking beams and bookshelves.

[16:45] Give us a little background about your drinking.

Tim started drinking at 15 and the first night he drank he got alcohol poisoning. He spent that first night in the shower throwing up and blacking out. He says he was never able to drink casually. Getting married at the age of 19, to a woman that is a couple years older than him, meant that he had someone that could buy alcohol for him. In his early 20s he was drinking about a 6-pack a day.

At the age of 25 Tim attended his first AA meeting, just to see. By this time, he was drinking 8-10 beers a day. After listening to someone's story at that meeting, he decided that he was not an alcoholic. Tim says he went to a few more AA meetings throughout his 20s, but he continued to drink and started to mix it up with hard alcohol and found his favorite drink, Captain and Coke.

As he moved through his 30's, Tim and his wife started to have pretty regular arguments about his drinking. Tim says he was looking for his wife to put her foot down and give him an ultimatum, but that wasn't happening. He tried to moderate, and that didn't work. He had some periods, 3 – 6 months, when he did not drink, but once he would consume alcohol again it would take about a week and he would be right back to daily drinking.

[21:30] In regards to those times of abstinence, what was it that brought you back to drinking?

Tim would tell himself that because he just went 3, or 6, months without drinking, that he must have control over it. The thought of having a glass of wine with his wife, while they watch the sunset, would just seem nice. That first drink always took him back to where he left off, in a matter of weeks.

In his 30s Tim started hiding alcohol and lying about how much he was drinking. He was always calculating how he was going to get that buzz.

[23:46] Did you have a rock bottom moment when you knew you had a problem?

Tim had joked about being a black out drinker in his 20s, but it wasn't until his 30's that he discovered he was really blacking out. He would drink and come to and realize that he had driven or would come to and not know where he was or who he was with. When he was blacking out on a regular basis, he knew he had a problem.

[25:20] What happens next?

When Tim was 30, he had gotten a job offer from a huge church down in Atlanta. It was like his life's dream, so they moved down to Atlanta. For the next 6 years Tim found himself counseling people about their drug and alcohol problems, while his drinking continued.

When Tim was 34, he went to a psychiatrist who put him on Adderall, he then was mixing alcohol and Adderall. He became addicted to the Adderall.

[30:10] Recently you had 7 months sober and then relapsed 22 days ago, tell me about that.

During those 7 months Tim was still taking Adderall and was smoking a THC vape pen. Although he was not drinking during that time he was still dealing with depression and all that comes with being an addict.

25 days ago, he relapsed, drank a lot, and crashed his truck. It was then that he went back to AA, got a sponsor, and was ready to take it seriously.

2 weeks ago, Tim's father, who also struggled with alcoholism, but never admitted it, committed suicide. Shortly after this Tim went to a bar, had 3 beers, left and called his sponsor.

[37:30] You are on day 2, how are you feeling?

Tim says he feels great. He has energy in the morning and is getting up early to pray. He has been able to be honest with his boss, which has saved him from losing his job. He explained to his boss that he could not stay late after work because he is now going to AA, and his boss has been very supportive.

[41:00] Do you know why you drank?

Tim says alcohol helped him feel his emotions, it allowed him to cry. He wanted to 'feel' and alcohol did that for him.

[43:50] What are you going to do when a craving hits?

Tim starts each morning in prayer or meditation. He sets his day up and prepares for the cravings that he knows he will have. He also has multiple sponsors and a network of people that he can contact when one is not available. He listens to podcasts and also has people checking in on him.

[45:21] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

2 years ago, I made a big scene at a restaurant and embarrassed my wife and my friends. I stacked a bunch of dishes and smashed them on the table, I drank way too much and had to get thrown out.

1. When was your ah ha moment?

It was something I heard on your podcast, someone said, "life isn't happening to you, it's happening for you". That concept was so incredibly mind-blowing to me.

1. What's your plan in sobriety moving forward?

To continue on knowing that if I am isolated, which is my nature, I will not succeed at this.

1. What's your favorite resource in recovery?

Paul I'm not saying this to blow any smoke, but I listen to multiple podcasts, and for some reason yours has been my number 1.

1. In regards to sobriety what is the best advice you have received?

Stop feeling so fucking sorry for yourself.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

Don't wait. Not one more drink, it's always one more drink, one more day…do it right this second because life it worth it.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

In the middle of the night, drunk, you are seeing fireworks in your rearview mirror only to discover you have driven the wheel off of your truck and the brake caliper and axel are scraping and shooting sparks 15 feet into the air.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Alcohol Use is Rising Around the World

Americans Drank Less Alcohol in 2018

Sobriety Tracker iTunes

Sobriety Tracker Android

Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to [email protected]

"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Nick, with 101 days of sobriety.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

On today's podcast Paul shares that he was recently interviewed on a podcast called, Self Made and Sober by the host Andrew Lassise. Andrew asked Paul what was the difference between his first 2 ½ years of sobriety and from September 7, 2014 on. According to Paul, that was a fantastic question with an easy answer.

The first 2 ½ years of sobriety was from January 1, 2010 through August 2012. On 1/1/10 Paul made a declaration to go 30 days without alcohol. When day 30 hit Paul was at a crossroads. He had started to lose weight, feel good, his face was less puffy, life just got better. So, he decided to go another month. Going into month 3 the pink cloud showed up. But during this 2 ½ years he had a mindset of lack. A mindset that he was missing something, couldn't do something. And as with anything, when we approach a goal with a mindset of lack, with a mindset that we will be missing something, it is not going to last. After 2 ½ years Paul went to his first AA meeting and walked away thinking "I got this.". 2 days later he drank, picking up right where he had left off. Those first 2 ½ years were based on willpower, which does not work.

On September 7, 2014 something felt different. He knew that he had to quit drinking. But his mindset was different. Paul wasn't looking at giving up alcohol as a sacrifice, but rather that space was being created, and things (alcohol) were being cleared, for better things to come. This time he wasn't doing it out of fear, he was doing it because there was a light at the end of the tunnel, an opportunity. That opportunity shows up every day. Instead of having a mindset of lack Paul now has a mindset of opportunity.

SHOW NOTES

[18:40] Paul introduces Nick.

Nick is 29 years old and has been sobor since January 25, 2019. He says that that biggest lesson he has learned in recovery so far is personal acceptance. Nick is from Saginaw, MI. He says he is figuring out what he likes to do for fun, that right now everything is fun whereas when he was drinking nothing was fun. He enjoys being around people, disk golf, hiking, and meditation. He is divorced, a result of his addiction, but close to his family who live is Saginaw as well. For work Nick is about to start a new position with an organization called Families Against Narcotics.

[22:40] Give us a little background about your drinking.

Nick started drinking and using at the age of 14. From the first time he drank nick knew he wasn't like other people. He realized he didn't have an off switch. He says there was no slow progression in to alcoholism, that he was an addict the first time he took a drink. Throughout college he was binge drinking up to 5 nights a week, but that didn't seem like a problem to Nick because that was what everyone else was doing. In 2012 his drinking and drugging amplified. But he was still doing well in school, still holding a job, still doing everything that looked normal on the outside.

[25:43] Sounds like there was some cognitive dissonance, tell us what that was like, how did that feel?

Nick said he felt powerless. He felt out of control and the only way he felt better was more drinking. There was a lot of rationalizing and minimalizing. In July of 2014 Nick went into rehab for the first time. In September 2014 his wife kicked him out. He moved back home and was doing drugs and drinking every day. On December 6, 2014 Nick overdosed. That put him in the hospital for about 2 weeks, and they weren't even sure he was going to make it. He then went back to rehab and says that's when there was a shift in his mindset. He finally accepted that he wasn't in control and that his life was unmanageable. He entered into a 3-month inpatient rehab; the same one his brother was at.

[28:18] What did it feel like when you had that mind shift?

Nick said it was a huge relief, that it felt like he could let go and let God take over.

[31:15] Tell us what it was like being in rehab with your brother.

They were both there for 3 months but they kept them apart for the first month. After that they started to have some overlap with their programs. Nick said he had the mind shift but that his brother did not. On the plane ride home from rehab his brother purchased a beer. This made Nick angry and he told his brother that. His brother minimalized it.

[33:30] Take us from getting out of rehab in the beginning of 2015 to your sobriety date the beginning of 2019.

Nick has been active in recovery since getting out of rehab. He has had slip ups and relapses, never with the hard drugs, just with alcohol. The last time he drank was January 24, 2019.

[37:10] Talk to us about some of these slip ups.

It got to the point that drinking wasn't fun anymore. Every time he would drink there was a lesson he would learn. The biggest lesson he learned from the slip ups was that alcohol was going to hold him back, just like the drugs would, and that he needed to be totally sobor to reach his fullest potential.

[40:35] Tell us more about the moment when you told your friends you were no longer drinking, and how it was after that.

The first few weeks his friends went out of their way to make him comfortable. What he had expected, that there would be problem or a change, was not the case at all. His friends stopped drinking around him at first, and things got easier fairly quickly.

[42:30] Why do you think you drank and used?

He thinks it was because he had a false narrative of who he really was. Alcohol helped numb it and made it easier to swallow that he wasn't living his purpose. He also had a lot of emotional trauma growing up and he thinks that played a part.

[45:15] In the past 101 days have you experienced cravings and what tools have you used to get past them?

For Nick a craving is just a thought and it is all about changing that thought process. The cravings have been a lot milder than they were with the drugs. When he has a craving now, and is alone, he yells 'STOP', if he is with someone he thinks 'STOP' in his head.

[47:50] Tell us more about the Open Discussion, OD Movement, website.

After his grandmother's passing in 2018 Nick wanted to do something to proactively try and address addiction. So, he created the Open Discussion Movement website, https://odmovement.com/ The OD Movement's mission is to change the dialogue around addiction. You can find the OD Movement podcast by searching for it on most podcast platforms.

[56:00] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

Driving drunk and wrecking my car and waking up in the psyche ward.

1. When was your oh shit moment?

When I woke up in the ICU after my overdose in 2014.

1. What's your plan in sobriety moving forward?

My plan is to continue building the OD Movement and just continue doing the next right thing.

1. What's your favorite resource in recovery?

The Meeting Finder app on my phone, I love that I can go to a meeting at any time.

1. In regards to sobriety what is the best advice you have received?

You're exactly where you need to be.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

It gets better. You have no idea how great life can be until you live a life free from the clutches of drugs and alcohol.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

You wake up in the hospital and say, "man I shouldn't have done that last night."

Resources:

Sobriety Tracker iTunes

Sobriety Tracker Android

Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to [email protected]

"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Gerald, with a sobriety date of November 16, 2015.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

On a recent Café' RE webinar, the host brought a fantastic topic to the webinar. The Cherokee parable titled Two Wolves. It is about an old Cherokee teaching his grandson about life. He tells the grandson that he has a fight going on inside him between two wolves. One is evil, the other is good.

The grandson thought for a moment and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee replied, "The one you feed."

This same fight is going on inside all of us. But we should refrain from labeling our wolves 'evil' and 'good', because they are both equally important. We tend to feed our 'evil' wolf more, because it's source of energy doesn't require much action. When this wolf gets thirsty, we feed it alcohol. The 'good' wolf takes more effort and energy to feed, it craves sobriety.

Because both wolves are equally important, we cannot ignore the 'evil' one, we must acknowledge it and that will keep it happy. When we ignore one, we become unbalanced.

SHOW NOTES

[13:00] Paul introduces Gerald.

Gerald is 50 years old and lives in Boulder, CO with his family. He was born and raised in Connecticut, where he went to a private school and private college. Skiing and biking are Gerald's passions.

[15:50] Give us a little background about your drinking.

Gerald started drinking when he was in high school. Through high school and college his drinking was only an occasional/weekend thing. After moving to Boulder, he cut back on his drinking because he was staying active biking and training for triathlons.

At the age of 30 he decided he wanted to go to culinary school and stopped exercising and started eating, and his drinking picked up. He gained 40 pounds. In 2011 he decided he wanted to lose the weight, so he got back on his bike, cut back on his drinking, and in 8 months lost the 40 he had gained.

When he was 43 Gerald lost his job and the decrease in income forced him and his family to move in with his in-laws. While he appreciated what his in-laws were doing for him and his family, he says it really started to take its toll on him and the way he felt as a man. This is when his drinking really started to progress.

[19:11] What happened after that?

In April of 2015 he lost another job. The pattern was starting to solidify. This was also when he really started to get into personal development.

[20:20] Did you start to see the role that alcohol was playing in your life?

Gerald said only looking backwards. He didn't see it at the time. He thought he drank the same as all his friends, and that nobody ever pulled him aside or suggested he had a drinking problem. He did stop drinking for 3 weeks and nobody seemed to notice, so he went back to his normal and kept on drinking.

[21:55] What happened on November 16, 2015?

Gerald was on his way home from his job at a brewery and was invited to a going away party for someone from work. After grabbing alcohol from work, and drinking even more from the party, he got behind the wheel, took a turn and hit the curb hard enough to employ his side airbag…right in front of a cop. He got a DUI.

[23:00] Was this your rock bottom moment?

Gerald says it was the moment that he knew he had to change something. He got kicked out of his in-law's house that night and lost his job a few days later. He found himself starting at ground zero again.

[28:45] What was day 1 like?

On day 1 Gerald kept an appointment with his blog coach, which he had made prior to his DUI. He says that appointment was transformational. It helped him begin to understand that he had a different purpose. Instead of doing what he just wanted to do he was trying to create something of value. Providing more value to people made the biggest difference in his life.

[30:56] Walk us through that first week, that first month.

Connection with his family made the biggest difference, and understanding that he was moving away from something while moving towards something else. Instead of trying to avoid drinking he started looking forward to other things like creating content and spending time with his kids.

**Gerald wrote a book titled, My Morning Practice: How to Put Down the Bottle, Escape Mediocrity, and Master Your Morning Mindset**

[35:15] Talk to us about how changing one little habit in the morning can make a tremendous change in your life.

Gerald starting noticing that most of the most successful people on the planet all had a morning routine. A lot of those routines included exercise. Gerald decided to write 10 ideas down every morning. About a month later he heard about a bike challenge so he adding biking to his mornings. He continued to add things to his routine. This routine gave Gerald the time and the space to really think about what is important to him.

[40:00] Walk us through a good morning routine for listeners that are new in sobriety.

First thing is to cut back time from what you are doing in the evening, less TV for example, so you can get to bed a little earlier and wake up a little earlier. Then take it a bite sized piece at a time, adding only one thing at a time and being consistent with that one thing before adding more.

[47:08] What have you learned about yourself in sobriety?

He's learned that he has a growth mindset and if there's a skill out there that he wants to learn he can accomplish it.

[48:00] Where can we find you and your book?

You can find his book on Amazon right here. You can find Gerald himself through his email, [email protected] , or his website, https://www.geraldrhodes.com/ .

[48:30] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

My son' 8th birthday, my ex-wife and I got into this huge fight, it was a mess and it was all because I was drunk.

1. When was your ah-ha moment?

I was watching a video by Bob Proctor and the message he gave led to my big ah-ha moment.

1. What's your plan in sobriety moving forward?

My morning practice, it has served me very well.

1. Apart from your morning routine, what's your favorite resource in recovery?

A book by Gary John Bishop called Unfu*k Yourself and listening to books on Audible.

1. In regards to sobriety what is the best advice you have received?

That I am a miracle.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

Take a few minutes every day to do something that you love and to think about what's most important to you.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

You take home white wine spritzers in a to go cup.

Resources:

Sobriety Tracker iTunes

Sobriety Tracker Android

Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to [email protected]

"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."

Today we have Alex, with 63 days of sobriety.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

On today's podcast Paul talks about what researchers, that studied the drinking habits of people that work with the public, discovered. They found that employees that forced themselves to smile and be happy around customers were more at risk to heavier drinking after work. Because of this, employers may want to rethink their 'service with a smile' policies.

Employees that work with the public may be using a lot of self-control, so later these employees may not have enough self-control to regulate how much they drink. Faking, or suppressing emotions, is called surface acting, which is also linked with drinking after work. Overall it was found that employees that interacted with the public drank more after work than those who did not.

Try not to suppress your emotions. Emotions are just that, emotions. They are not good or bad. It's okay to be authentic in the work place. The best way to be authentic is with eye contact. Authenticity replaces positivity.

SHOW NOTES

[13:45] Paul introduces Alex.

Alex is 34 years old. He lives in Sandy, UT, where he was born and raised. He is married and has a 3-year-old son. He works in information technology and is a captain in the Army National Guard. For fun Alex likes anything outdoors. He enjoys skiing, camping, glamping and also plays the guitar and drums.

[16:20] Give us a little background about your drinking.

Alex joined the military and started drinking at age 21. He describes his drinking as like a frog in a slow boil. Around age 30 drinking really started to affect his health. His hangovers were getting worse. He was having unexplained pains where his liver was located and experiencing a shortness of breath.

[20:45] What was your anxiety like?

He was worried about things a normal person wouldn't be worried about. In October 2017 he went to his doctor and was finally honest about his anxiety and depression…but not with his drinking. In January of 2018 he decided to do a dry January so hit the booze hard leading up to it.

[25:45] What was it like on January 1st?

At day 15 Alex found the podcast and started binge listening to it. He realized he was like the people on the podcast, that he was an alcoholic. At day 32, after making it through 'dry January' he drank. That started a 2-week bender.

[30:56] During that 2-week bender did you try to stop?

He got a case of the 'fuck-its' and that 2-week bender was just everyday hammering the alcohol. He then just realized that he wasn't being the person he wanted to be.

[32:40] Talk to us about after you had that moment of clarity.

The most important thing for Alex was being very honest with himself about the fact he is an alcoholic and needs to stay away from alcohol. He made an appointment with his doctor and told him about his drinking. His doctor referred him to therapy.

[37:37] How are you going to get day 64?

He says he needs to keep busy. He goes to a climbing gym. He drinks sparkling water if he feels like he needs something in his hand.

[39:42] What have you learned about yourself during this alcohol-free journey?

He's returning to who he wants to be. Most importantly he's learned how to be honest with himself.

[44:00] Rapid Fire Round

1. Worst memory from drinking?

All the times I made my wife feel like shit.

1. Do you remember a specific 'oh-shit' moment?

A year after my son was born, I was having suicidal thoughts.

1. What's your favorite resource in recovery?

Definitely this podcast.

1. In regards to sobriety what is the best advice you've ever received?

To think about the positives instead of the negatives.

1. What parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

Know that you are lying to yourself and start being honest with yourself.

1. You might be an alcoholic if...

You count the half 16oz. flat warm 9% beer from the night before as inventory for tonight's alcohol intake.

Resources:

Sobriety Tracker iTunes

Sobriety Tracker Android

Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to [email protected]

"Recovery Elevator – It all starts from the inside-out."