Tawny and Lisa talk about the triggers of summer – vacations, BBQs, day drinking, and the extra push to “celebrate.” For themselves, they focus on the specifics of the event or activity. Will there be an actual activity or are people inviting us to just watch them drink? If the latter, Hard pass!  They also talk about zero-proof drinks, a choice they love for anyone who is comfortable with them. Tawny goes through some fantastic new discounts on certain beverages for listeners (listed below).

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Music Minute features Katy Perry, Talking Heads, Stone Temple Pilots, and “mondegreen” (the mishearing of song lyrics).

Tawny got a book deal!! She and Lisa are excited AF. DRY HUMPING, out September 2023, is a booze-free guide to sex, dating, and relationships. She and Lisa dig in about Tawny’s process, what emotions have come up, and how she’s handling them. They also talk about the challenge to balance writing (or other things they love) with the rest of their lives, the drive to help the next person, and the importance of celebrating themselves in sobriety.

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Music Minute includes finding inspiration in music, including Jim Morrison, Talking Heads, Ke$ha, Miley Cyrus, and Harry Styles.

A listener wrote to ask Tawny, “Is sobriety a skill?” Tawny and Lisa say yes. It’s a skill they develop, practice daily, keep fresh, and try to grow from. But it’s also a skill that, like strength and endurance at the gym, disappears if we stop working it. That’s why they use the tools in their sobriety toolkits, like exercise, connecting with others in recovery, meditation, and, for Lisa, the 12 Steps. It’s also why they both say that they are “in recovery” and not “recovered.”

Music Minute includes Metallica, Pitbull, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

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The last time Tawny and Lisa talked about technology and social media addiction was pre-pandemic. The problem has gotten worse since but the core problems remain the same. Many of us are constantly drawn to our phones, whether checking for social media updates, new texts and emails, or to stream. They talk about their own struggles in this area, including attempts to . reduce, moderate, or abstain from technology apps. These habits are hard to break. But there’s help! Internet Addicts Anonymous (ITAA) has a lot of great information that can be engaged with on many different levels.

Music Minute features Bo Burnham.

Internet and Technology Addicts Anonymous: internetaddictsanonymous.org

How to Break Up with Your Phone: https://phonebreakup.com/

24/6 Giving Up Screens One Day a Week: https://www.tiffanyshlain.com/24-6book

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It started when Tawny sent Lisa a Facebook memory of Tawny getting kicked out of a Blue Oyster Cult concert. They decided they had much to discuss on this topic! The conversation includes acknowledging the past but not dwelling on it, not beating themselves up about things they’ve done, and not being driven by shame or regret. Lisa talks about resentments and making amends in 12-Step. And they both agree that they wouldn’t be where they are today without those low moments that lead to growth.

Music Minute features Rod Stewart, Def Leppard.

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Tawny and Lisa chat with Irina Gonzalez, an editor and a freelance writer covering parenting, recovery, and Latinx culture. She also hosts the podcast, Pandemic Mama. The conversation includes the impact of the pandemic on women and caretakers in general, with more anxiety and uncertainty leading to more self-medicating with substances and behaviors. They talk about stigma, mental health diagnoses, and implications of the terminology we use. 

Music Minute features Hamilton, Demi Lovato, and Meghan Trainor. 

All about Irina: http://irinagonzalez.com/

Pandemic Mama podcast: http://irinagonzalez.com/pandemicmamapod/

On IG @msirinagonzalez

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Casey Davidson, of Hello Someday Coaching and the Hello Someday podcast. She’s a certified life coach and a Master Practitioner in Core Energy Leadership, who helps other successful women reevaluate their relationship with alcohol, get out of overwhelm, and create lives they love. They talk about the anxiety, imposter syndrome, secrets, and hiding that come along with the spiral downward into problematic drinking. And how that cycle can be broken with honesty and community to build a life you feel good about.

Music Minute features Gym Class Heroes.

Find Casey here: hellosomedaycoaching.com

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Tawny and Lisa chat with Pam Gaslow, whose new memoir, Don’t Bring Your Vibrator to Rehab, chronicles her relapse after nearly a decade of sobriety, as well as her recovery from that experience. They talk about saying goodbye to alcohol and drugs, the money we save, sober dating, and coming back to recovery after relapse. The bottom line is that recovery is a journey and there can be relapse along the way. What matters is that we come back to ourselves and our recovery.

Music Minute features Afroman, Glass Animals, and the wonders of the Shazam app. 

Check the book: https://www.discoverbooks.com/Dont-Bring-Your-Vibrator-to-Rehab-A-Somewhat-Com-p/0578950049.htm?cond=0005

More about Pam: pamgaslow.com @pamgaslow

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Beth Lapides, the creator and host of Los Angeles' groundbreaking alternative comedy show, UnCabaret, where marginalized performers and their allies have told personal, unscripted stories for more than 25 years. She’s now out with an audiobook, So You Need to Decide, speaking with celebrities about difficult decisions they've made in the areas of family, work, love, moving, and spirituality. They talk about recovery, yoga, and the fact that “you can only know what you know when you know it.” 

Music Minute features Natasha Beddingfield and Cyndi Lauper.

For more about Beth and her new audiobook, So You Need to Decide: https://www.bethlapides.com/

Check out the recent profile of Beth in Vulture: https://www.vulture.com/article/beth-lapides-uncabaret-good-one-podcast.html

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Deni Carise, Ph.D., a founder and the Chief Science Officer of Recovery Centers of America (RCA). Tawny recently met Deni at RCA’s Break Free sober fashion event (yes, a sober fashion event!). At 18, Deni left home to pursue modeling and fell into cocaine addiction. Once she got sober, Deni went back to community college and chased her studies the way she had chased her addiction. Throughout her career, she has helped people all over the world find treatment and recovery. And to cap it off, she finally got to walk the runway at New York Fashion Week! 

Music Minute features Freddy Mercury and Queen. The girls also share controversial music takes.

More about Deni: https://recoverycentersofamerica.com/leadership/team/#DeniCarise,Ph.D

Check out RCA: https://recoverycentersofamerica.com/

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