Relationship Matters

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller about evolution through relationship, which is a major theme in your upcoming book Relationship Matters: A New Paradigm for an Evolutionary Leap in Relationships. Across the conversation, they discuss:

• Why relationship is essential for human evolution
• What gets in the way of relationship?
• Slowing down to be present with the relationships in our lives
• Our relationship with nature
• Faith’s high dreams for relationship work

Faith Fuller is a co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 20 years of experience working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty members Judy Van Zon and Irith Koster about Emotional Intelligence or EQ and how it can help us take responsibility for our emotions. This conversation touches on a range of topics, including: 

• What is emotional intelligence and why is it so fundamental to the ORSC approach
• What happens when our EQ is lacking? Or is not balanced with the other intelligences? 
• How to use emotional intelligence to take responsibility for our own emotions
• The link between EQ and locus of control
• The benefits of building emotional intelligence in coaching, leadership and life

Irith Koster trained as an organizational psychologist (MA) and specializes in coaching partnerships and teams, and individual leaders. By studying, working, and living in Amsterdam, Jerusalem and Los Angeles, Irith learned to look at situations from multiple perspectives, which added to her drive to help people do the same. Alongside being a Certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach since 2013 and a front-of-the-room leader for CRR Global, she is an ICF-accredited Professional Certified Coach and a Certified Team Performance Coach by Team Coaching International. She is also a facilitator of the War to Peace Methodology, created by Halcyon Global, and a Co-active Coach and is a lifelong student of the Gremlin Taming Method by Rick Carson. Her secret mission is that the people she works with take these tools and insights home into their families. Irith is based in the Netherlands with her husband and three daughters. She loves to run in the forest of Amsterdam and to read everything she can about human beings and their relationships. She is fluent in Dutch, English and Hebrew. 

Judy van Zon has lived and worked in several countries and speaks the language of people who are crossing a border, physically as well as emotionally. In short, she works with people who are going through personal or professional change. One of the things that sets her apart is her inclusion of spirituality to help her clients better connect to their own inner wisdom and power. In her team coaching, Judy believes that working with the ORSC model is a very powerful way to build bridges in relationships. It goes far beyond familiar skills like empathy and active listening. It offers a whole new way of looking at people and how we live and work together. Her focus is on working with corporate leaders and teams. Training others in this allows her to spread this energy throughout the world. For the last 25 years, she has lived and worked in six countries on three continents, the last 3.5 years in India and the region around. She is now back in the Netherlands and, as well as being a senior faculty member, was the former Director of Certification at CRR Global. Judy speaks Dutch, English, German, Spanish, and French. 

 
 For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member Sunčica Getter about ORSC and mindfulness. Across this conversation, they discuss: 

• What is mindfulness?
• How can mindfulness help us to become better systems coaches?
• How can the ORSC tools and skills help us to be more mindful?
• The inner observer as an ally
• The role of compassion
• Some of the benefits of mindfulness- personally & professionally

Sunčica Getter is an MCC systemic coach, consultant, educator, and Director for Continuous Development at CRR Global. With over 20 years of experience, her focus is on transformational leadership development and systemic culture change. Her work in coaching education has seen her train, mentor and supervise coaches and design and deliver academic, public, and in-house coaching training and accreditation courses. Her experiences collaborating with world-class coaching institutions and diverse clients have made Sunčica a trusted systemic coaching consultant. She advises companies and institutions on the implementation of systemic coaching and systemic thinking for both organizational and community development. In addition, Sunčica is a qualified mindfulness teacher, having trained with Jack Kornfield and Tara Brach through the University of Berkeley’s Greater Good Science Centre.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Mike Holton, COO of CRR Global, about the importance of grief when dealing with a myth change. Across this conversation, they discuss:

•  The value of grieving an old myth before embracing a new myth
•  Some of the challenges that show up when we rush through the grief stage
•  How grief can be an ally for change
•  The importance of slowing down
•  And some ways we can learn to prioritize this important stage

Mike Holton has a lifelong passion for working with and developing leaders across the globe. Alongside his roles at CRR Global, Mike has spent a career working to develop organizational capabilities within the Global 2000. In the coaching field, he has worked as an Agile, leadership, couples, team, and organizational coach. The most important role Mike plays is being a husband and father to four amazing children. This role has shaped him and continues to develop him as a person today.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In part 3 of this 3-part special on boundaryless change, Katie talks with CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about some of the everyday applications of boundaryless change. This episode brings this mini-series back down to earth and looks at the importance of this concept in our everyday lives. Across this episode, they discuss:

• How to explain this concept to a 6-year-old?
• How might this concept be useful to a parent?
• Some of the ways we need to embrace boundaryless change in our daily lives
• The importance of embracing and working with the principle of emergence

If you haven’t listened to parts 1 and 2 already, we would highly recommend listening to Boundaryless Change Part 1: The Meta View and Boundaryless Change Part 2: The Coaching Evolution first. 

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In part 2 of this 3-part mini-series on boundaryless change, Katie speaks with CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about how boundaryless change is impacting the coaching industry. Across this conversation, we discuss: 

• How can coaches respond to an increasing awareness of boundaryless change
• Ways we can hold the complexity surrounding boundaryless change
• Some of the impacts on the coaching industry at large
• The most essential skills to help coaches and their clients work with boundaryless change

If you haven’t listened to it already, we would highly recommend listening to Boundaryless Change Part 1: The Meta View first.

 
Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about boundaryless change. Across the conversation, they discuss:

• The difference between complicated and complex systems 
• Our increasing awareness of boundaryless change
• The challenges that arise when we try to remedy complex issues with simple solutions
• The importance of boundaries and boundary-setting
• How to hold the complexity of boundaryless change whilst also honoring our need for boundaries 

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member Chris Howell about the improvisation in relationship. Across the conversation, they discuss:

• The golden rule of Improvisation & how it applies to Relationships
• How the ORSC tools or techniques do you believe help us to embrace an improviser mindset
• The benefits of an improviser mindset when co-coaching or co-leading a course

Chris Howell is an experienced team and leadership coach known for his energetic presence, empathy and engaging style. His understanding of systems emerged through his experience in designing information technology and managing change in organizations. He always focused on the people and relationships in the system. His awareness of Psychology, NLP and Organisation Development helps him to make the connections between heart, mind and all levels of emotional intelligence within the human system. Chris now facilitates leadership development and accredited coach training as well as coaching executives and teams for international corporates. He has supported people and teams across a wide range of industries, including finance, manufacturing, technology, pharmaceutical, government, construction, and non-profit.  He uses a wide range of well-recognized assessment tools that help people to see more deeply who they are in their relationships. He is passionate at supporting community and non-profit organizations. He founded a community organization in a deprived area of South-East London which continues to support members of the local community to express their voice. He has also supported leadership development for teenagers in the same community, helping them find purpose, confidence and who they are as leaders. Chris continues to enjoy learning about relationship based in Kent on the South coast of the UK.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks to CRR Global faculty member Kiki Kesseler about bringing Metaskills to life. Across this conversation, they discuss:

• The concept of Metaskills and why they are useful for coaches
• Embracing Metaskills so they aren’t simply understood but embodied
• The gap between intention and impact
• The influence of Metaksills, professionally and personally
• Ways we can practice being more conscious and intentional communication

Kiki Kesseler is a CRR Global faculty member for both courses and the certification program. Kiki believes that the value of working with teams, individuals and relationships lies in the balance between revealing to the clients what is trying to happen and educating them on how to self-manage similar issues in the future for a more positive and productive relationship. Kiki focuses on people development and brings 20+ years of experience in cultural diversity, coaching, training, and team management across various industries, with corporate roles in Sales & Marketing, Business Development and Training. She specializes in team development, conflict resolution, leadership skills and systemic coaching. She is known to create a trusted atmosphere of positive energy that encourages the client to align, communicate, learn, and implement changed behavior. With clear education and the use of practical tools, Kiki inspires a can-do spirit among leaders. Her strength lies in combining coaching and training skills to enable growth. Originally from The Netherlands, she speaks Dutch, English, and German. Her cross-cultural experience was established through living in Austria, the United States, Germany and the UAE over the past 18 years, working within culturally diverse environments, organizations and teams. After a four-month adventurous drive from Dubai back to the Netherlands, Kiki and her family are now based close to Utrecht, The Netherlands.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this special episode of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman will be stepping into the role of guest alongside CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller, with the show guest-hosted by senior faculty member at CRR Global, Sandra Cain. Across the conversation, they discuss what they are learning about birth and death, which was inspired by their different life circumstances: at the time of recording, Katie was 24 weeks pregnant with twins, and Faith is navigating stage 4 Uterine cancer. This discussion covers a range of topics, including:

• The similarities between birth and death
• How birth and death can be a mirror for one another
• Myth changes and secondary identities
• Disappointed dreams, grief, and the limits of expectations
• The importance of presence
• The wisdom in uncertainty

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do and how we live.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

Katie Churchman is the host of the Relationship Matters podcast and a Front of the Room faculty member at CRR Global. As an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC), certified in Organisational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSCC) & the ICF’s Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ACTC), Katie helps leaders, teams & organisations find clarity & direction so that they can take ownership of goals and achieve results. Her coaching sessions are designed to deliver maximum impact and measurable growth specific to business objectives, professional aspirations & personal goals. Katie is passionate about bringing great communication skills & leadership development to organisations worldwide to build positive cultures & create tangible, sustainable change. Katie specialises in coaching individuals & teams across a wide range of areas, including Leadership Development, Change Mindset, Personal Impact, Presentation Skills, Effective Communication and Storytelling. She is goal-orientated, energetic & enjoys working with a fun, focused approach.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.