In the final episode of season 4, Katie talks with Kiki Kesseler about vulnerability in relationship. Across this conversation, we discuss:

• How does vulnerability show up in relationship? 
• Patterns in relationship
• Expressing what you need
• Owning “I don’t know” as a pathway into vulnerability
• Choosing to be vulnerable
• The impact of control and the value of playfulness

Kiki Kessler is a CRR Global faculty member for both courses and the certification programme. Kiki believes that the value of working with teams, individuals, and relationships lies in the balance between revealing to the clients what is trying to happen and educating them on how to self-manage similar issues in the future for a more positive and productive relationship. Kiki focuses on people development and brings 20+ years of experience in cultural diversity, coaching, training, and team management across various industries, with corporate roles in Sales & Marketing, Business Development, and Training. She specializes in team development, conflict resolution, leadership skills, and systemic coaching. She is known to create a trusted atmosphere of positive energy that encourages the client to align, communicate, learn, and implement changed behavior. With clear education and the use of practical tools, Kiki inspires a can-do spirit among leaders. Her strength lies in combining coaching and training skills to enable growth. Originally from The Netherlands, she speaks Dutch, English, and German. Her cross-cultural experience was established through living in Austria, the United States, Germany and the UAE over the past 18 years, working within culturally diverse environments, organizations and teams. After a four-month adventurous drive from Dubai back to the Netherlands, Kiki and her family are now based close to Utrecht, The Netherlands.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across these 3 episodes, Katie talks with Michelle Davis, faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global, about supporting systemic equity. As humans, we have diversity – we think differently and hold different perspectives and ideas – that’s what makes us unique and different and should be celebrated. Once we start to create fear based on those differences - we begin to dehumanize groups of people and lock them out of opportunities. This 3-part series builds along the lines of the 3-levels of intelligence (Emotional Intelligence EQ, Social Intelligence SI and Relationship System Intelligence RSI). If you've not already listened to parts 1 and 2, we'd highly recommend listening to both of those episodes first. In part 3, Katie and Michelle look through the lens of Relationship System Intelligence. Topics include:

• Looking through the lens of relationship
• The importance of integrating systemic equity into the bones of an organization
• The power of the coach approach 
• Socialised storytelling and choosing to create a different reality
• Privilege and power structures 

Michelle Davis is a faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global. Michelle’s professional journey has included a season of providing therapy, as a licensed professional counselor, to the most vulnerable among us; a season of developing and delivering experiential learning events that challenge and disrupt the status quo when the status quo no longer serves; and currently, a season providing leadership coaching as a certified organization and relationship systems coach and leading diversity, equity and inclusion efforts as a professor and director. In her work at the University of Colorado and previous experience working with systemic racism in other university systems, Michelle was the principal developer of a coaching program focused on Race Intelligence (RQ(™)). This program seeks to increase Race Intelligence by guiding others to increase their capacity to lean into discomfort with the intention of becoming aware of race and racism and its influence on oneself, others, and societal institutions; and use this increased intelligence or awareness consciously to dismantle intrapersonal mindsets, behaviors, and systemic representations of racism.  Michelle earned her master’s degree in counselling at the University of Nebraska at Omaha and, as well as being an ORSC-certified coach, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, a trained Co-Active Coach, and a Certified Dare to Lead Facilitator.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across these 3 episodes, Katie talks with Michelle Davis, faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global, about supporting systemic equity. As humans, we have diversity – we think differently and hold different perspectives and ideas – that’s what makes us unique and different and should be celebrated. Once we start to create fear based on those differences - we begin to dehumanize groups of people and lock them out of opportunities. This 3-part series builds along the lines of the 3-levels of intelligence (Emotional Intelligence EQ, Social Intelligence SI and Relationship System Intelligence RSI). If you've not already listened to it already, do check-out part 1 first; what's mine to do? In part 2, Katie and Michelle look at social intelligence. Topics include:

• Right Relationship and working for the power of me and you
• The stories and beliefs that shape our reality
• Breaking down divisions and doing the work together
• What's mine to do and how can I actually do it?
• Sharing opportunities

Michelle Davis is a faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global. Michelle’s professional journey has included a season of providing therapy, as a licensed professional counselor, to the most vulnerable among us; a season of developing and delivering experiential learning events that challenge and disrupt the status quo when the status quo no longer serves; and currently, a season providing leadership coaching as a certified organization and relationship systems coach and leading diversity, equity and inclusion efforts as a professor and director. In her work at the University of Colorado and previous experience working with systemic racism in other university systems, Michelle was the principal developer of a coaching program focused on Race Intelligence (RQ(™)). This program seeks to increase Race Intelligence by guiding others to increase their capacity to lean into discomfort with the intention of becoming aware of race and racism and its influence on oneself, others, and societal institutions; and use this increased intelligence or awareness consciously to dismantle intrapersonal mindsets, behaviors, and systemic representations of racism.  Michelle earned her master’s degree in counselling at the University of Nebraska at Omaha and, as well as being an ORSC-certified coach, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, a trained Co-Active Coach, and a Certified Dare to Lead Facilitator.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across these 3 episodes, Katie talks with Michelle Davis, faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global, about supporting systemic equity. As humans, we have diversity – we think differently, hold different perspectives and ideas – that’s what makes us unique and different and should be celebrated. Once we start to create fear based upon those differences - we begin to dehumanize groups of people and lock them out of opportunities. This 3-part series builds along the lines of the 3-levels of intelligence (Emotional Intelligence EQ, Social Intelligence SI and Relationship System Intelligence RSI). In part 1, Katie and Michelle look at system 1, the me system and what's mine to do in relation to supporting systemic equity. Topics include:

• Why supporting systemic equity starts with the self: how can we see where we are blind?
• Slowing down and getting curious about our unconscious drivers
• The impact of fear
• Getting to know the true nature of who we are.
• Making the unconscious conscious so that we can be more at choice around our reactions

Michelle Davis is a faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global. Michelle’s professional journey has included a season of providing therapy, as a licensed professional counselor, to the most vulnerable among us; a season of developing and delivering experiential learning events that challenge and disrupt the status quo when the status quo no longer serves; and currently, a season providing leadership coaching as a certified organization and relationship systems coach and leading diversity, equity and inclusion efforts as a professor and director. In her work at the University of Colorado and previous experience working with systemic racism in other university systems, Michelle was the principal developer of a coaching program focused on Race Intelligence (RQ(™)). This program seeks to increase Race Intelligence by guiding others to increase their capacity to lean into discomfort with the intention of becoming aware of race and racism and its influence on oneself, others, and societal institutions; and use this increased intelligence or awareness consciously to dismantle intrapersonal mindsets, behaviors, and systemic representations of racism.  Michelle earned her master’s degree in counselling at the University of Nebraska at Omaha and, as well as being an ORSC-certified coach, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, a trained Co-Active Coach, and a Certified Dare to Lead Facilitator.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Mike Holton, COO and faculty member at CRR Global, about the importance of building belonging in our relationships. Across this conversation they discuss: 

• Belonging as a form of acceptance
• The individual work that we can only do together
• Making the unconscious conscious
• Learning how to bring more belonging to our relationship with ourselves

Mike Holton has a lifelong passion for working with and developing leaders across the globe. Alongside his roles at CRR Global, Mike has spent a career working to develop organizational capabilities within the Global 2000.  In the coaching field, he has worked as an agile, leadership, couples, team, and organizational coach.  Over the last few years, he has transitioned his focus to working with clients in the space of Trauma. The most important role Mike plays is being a husband and a father of four amazing children. This role has shaped him and continues to develop him as a person today.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

This is episode 3 in a 3-part series on team coaching with team coach and CRR Global faculty member Martin Klaver. In episode 3, Katie and Martin discuss how to support clients in integrating the learnings. Across the conversation, they discuss:

• How to weave integration throughout a team coaching engagement
• Trusting and harnessing the wisdom of the team
• Understanding that integration is the team’s responsibility
• Celebrating small wins
• Focusing on results as opposed to the process.

Martin Klaver is an experienced team coach and faculty member at CRR Global. He is enthusiastic about group dynamics and believes guiding systems in these dynamics and making patterns and potential aware is beautiful and rewarding work. Martin designs and supervises many Management Development processes where personal development (IQ and EQ), relationships with others (SQ) and relationships with systems (RSI) are fundamental. Fun, experimental and essence are themes that you can recognize in his methods.

Martin has a master’s degree in Business Administration and extensive work experience in HR and organizational development at various organizations. Based in the Netherlands, Martin facilitates with his team a diversity of organizations and leaders in their development. The purpose of his company is to bring more balance in the world. They focus to create an atmosphere of possibility in which the system can evolve into what is needed.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

This is episode 2 in a 3-part series on team coaching with team coach and CRR Global faculty member Martin Klaver. To listen to part 1, click here. In episode 2, Katie and Martin discuss how to develop conscious and intentional relationships with clients. Across the conversation, they discuss:

• Sharing team coaching, not as a product but as a process
• Meeting clients where they are, with their language.
• Understanding that as a team coach, you are a part of the process. 
• Co-coaching as an opportunity for modelling teamwork.

Martin Klaver is an experienced team coach and faculty member at CRR Global. He is enthusiastic about group dynamics and believes guiding systems in these dynamics and making patterns and potential aware is beautiful and rewarding work. Martin designs and supervises many Management Development processes where personal development (IQ and EQ), relationships with others (SQ) and relationships with systems (RSI) are fundamental. Fun, experimental and essence are themes that you can recognize in his methods.

Martin has a master’s degree in Business Administration and extensive work experience in HR and organizational development at various organizations. Based in the Netherlands, Martin facilitates with his team a diversity of organizations and leaders in their development. The purpose of his company is to bring more balance in the world. They focus to create an atmosphere of possibility in which the system can evolve into what is needed.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across the next three episodes, Katie talks with team coach and CRR faculty member Martin Klaver about the team coach approach. In episode 1, Katie and Martin discuss what it means to build a successful team coaching business. Across the conversation they discuss:

• Defining what success might look like for your business and aligning your energy around those goals
• Acting with integrity and being at choice
• Reframing team coaching as a process, not a product: it’s not something you sell; it’s a relationship you build
• The importance of continually applying the team coach approach to your own business

Martin Klaver is an experienced team coach and faculty member at CRR Global. He is enthusiastic about group dynamics and believes guiding systems in these dynamics and making patterns and potential aware is beautiful and rewarding work. Martin designs and supervises many Management Development processes where personal development (IQ and EQ), relationships with others (SQ) and relationships with systems (RSI) are fundamental. Fun, experimental and essence are themes that you can recognize in his methods.

Martin has a master’s degree in Business Administration and extensive work experience in HR and organizational development at various organizations. Based in the Netherlands, Martin facilitates with his team a diversity of organizations and leaders in their development. The purpose of his company is to bring more balance in the world. They focus to create an atmosphere of possibility in which the system can evolve into what is needed.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Floyd Carlson about bringing a Both/And mindset to our relationships. Across the conversation, they discuss:

• How can we help the systems navigate polarities when they show up
• Shifting from either/or thinking to a Both/And approach.
• The link between polarities and perpetual issues. 
• And how a Both/And mindset can help to create alignment.

Floyd Carlson is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders and teams and bringing the best out of individuals based on company and individual objectives. Floyd has more than 30 years of business and military experience which he combines with his coaching, training, and organizational development to help leaders achieve professional and personal goals in alignment with company needs.

Resources:

• Navigating Polarities: Using Both/And Thinking to Lead Transformation, by Brian Emerson  & Kelly Lewis
• Andiron- Key Polarities Indicator
• Esther Perel Podcasts- Where should we begin? & How’s work?
• Tiny Habits, by BJ Fogg
• The Love Prescription, by John and Julie Gottman
• The Big Leap: Conquer Your Hidden Fear and Take Life to the Next Level Paperback, by Gay Hendricks 

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across the next two episodes, Katie talks with ORSC coach and legally trained consultant Jennifer Pernfuss and CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about conflict. Conflict is a signal that something is trying to happen and when the signal of conflict isn't addressed, matters can escalate to other, and often more destructive forms of conflict. Conflict falls on a spectrum, and if we can become aware of the early warning signals we can produce better, more well-considered, outcomes. However, if conflict takes root and is left unaddressed it can escalate and, in more serious cases, become harassment or bullying, or at least be experienced that way, which causes all kinds of damage. This damage can rise to the level of a crisis within the team or organization. If, you haven't listened to it already we would highly recommending listening to part 1 first. In part 2 they discuss:

• The spectrum of conflict
• The early warning signs
• The complexities of escalated conflict
• Recognising the law as a voice of the system 
• Organizational crisis

Jennifer Pernfuss is an ORSC coach and legally trained consultant, helping organizations effectively address and resolve workplace harassment complaints and transform conflict. She was one of the first legally trained consultants to conduct external investigations in Ontario. She left that work to study different ways of resolving employee complaints that encourage low-level resolution and regard for all the stakeholders in a dispute.  In addition to a law degree, she has a degree in Psychology and is a trained mediator. As well as being a certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach she is also a Trauma Informed Professional Coach. In addition, she has also had the pleasure of being trained by Brene Brown in the area of shame.  All her education, training, personal and field experience has culminated in a unique and highly effective approach to addressing and resolving harassment and other forms of conflict in the workplace.

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.