The CIRS Group Podcast

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  • We're back! Barbara survived spine fusion (and now we're working on something BIG)

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    We are BACK! In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara return from a brief hiatus. Why were they gone? Barbara got surgery and made it through! She'll give a detailed update on her recovery process, including the challenges she faced, tips for post-surgery care, and what kind of support she needed to heal. They'll also cover exciting upcoming events for the CIRS Group, including the next CIRS SUMMIT, featuring expert talks on various CIRS-related health and environmental topics. Join them for insights, personal stories, and a preview of future content!

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Welcome Back to The CIRS Group Podcast
    0:34 Barbara had surgery! 
    01:30 Medical Disclaimer
    01:52 Barbara's experience in the hospital
    02:46 Advocate for yourself
    05:00 Get lots of opinions
    05:40 Meal Prepping and medical devices
    07:58 Post-Surgery challenges
    10:00 Nerve Pain is different
    11:48 Spine fusion ain't so bad
    15:01 Upcoming Events and Exciting Announcements
    18:08 Future Podcast Guests and Topics
    19:19 Join the CIRS Group Community

    HELPFUL LINKS

    Some products Barbara purchased to help with recovery:
    Grabber Reacher: https://a.co/d/8zegGQm
    Toilet Aid Wiping Tool: https://a.co/d/1r01xSB
    Portable Bidet: https://a.co/d/aLfnXP8
    Sock Aid: https://a.co/d/eR8Sase
    Shower scrubber: https://a.co/d/h2QikaC
    Wearable ice pack: https://a.co/d/cxHxAFi

    Occupational Therapist on YouTube for more recovery tips and tricks: https://www.youtube.com/@EquipMeOT

    The CIRS Summit: https://thecirssummit.com/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    20 min
  • Jacie MOVED! And Barbara... is having surgery? The CIRS Group 2025 health updates!

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie share personal updates on their health and living situations. Jacie recounts her move from Denver to Utah, explaining the reasons behind the move, the challenges she faced, and the improvements in her social life and environment. We hope you take away practical tips for cleaning and settling into a new place while dealing with CIRS. Barbara gives an update on her ongoing health journey, discussing her recent diagnosis of spondylolisthesis, why she is moving forward with back surgery, and her experience with testing for tick-borne illnesses. They emphasize the importance of seeking out personalized care and educating yourself to help you manage health conditions related to CIRS.

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Intro and Disclaimer
    00:53 Jacie moved to Utah!
    02:50 Jacie's tips for moving with CIRS
    04:10 How Jacie chose furniture for her new space
    06:25 Choosing where to live, and air quality considerations
    10:45 Testing apartments before moving in, and again after
    16:00 How to develop your mold Spidey senses
    19:00 Barbara's health stalled, so she investigated
    20:06 Tick illness provocation and getting a spine check-up
    26:50 How Barbara got tested for tick borne illness
    28:50 How Barbara chose to move forward with spine surgery
    35:51 How to avoid incorrect diagnoses - and other tips

    HELPFUL LINKS:

    Barbara's CIRS doctor: https://www.untamediona.com/
    Barbara's CIRS and tick borne literate doctor: https://remedynaturalhealth.com/
    Barbara's CIRS literate back specialist: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    40 min
  • Creating your CIRS Action Plan: A step by step guide to planning your healing journey

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara discuss how to create an effective CIRS action plan. This is a step by step guide to help you manage and streamline your CIRS healing journey, which is often complicated and stressful. They'll cover why having an action plan is crucial, especially for those newly diagnosed or suspecting CIRS, and how it can help you avoid analysis paralysis. If you're feeling overwhelmed by your CIRS diagnosis, this episode offers a clear roadmap to help you move forward.

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Intro and disclaimer
    00:48 Why you need an Action Plan for your healing journey
    02:21 How to decide what to do first: Consider finances and symptoms
    04:27 How a CIRS health coach can help you plan
    06:00 Establish context, limitations, and goals
    08:30 Where you're at in the protocol, and what will have the biggest impact
    12:02 Be open minded about adjusting goals 
    15:06 Write down your goals to get organized
    17:50 Recap and extra tips for your healing journey

    HELPFUL LINKS!

    Find a CIRS health coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    20 min
  • Feel your best while healing from chronic illness and CIRS: Our favorite adjunct therapies!

    For more information and support, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss various adjunct therapies they find beneficial to use alongside the Shoemaker Protocol. They dig into anti-inflammatory diets, the importance of electrolytes, supplements, the benefits of sunshine and grounding, and detox techniques like saunas and hot baths. They also highlight the importance of working with trauma-informed therapists, doing limbic retraining, and maintaining positive connections with friends, family, pets, and/or supportive online communities. For more information and support, visit us at https://www.thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
    0:38 Adjusting diet to lower inflammation
    5:58 Electrolytes
    8:13 Checking vitamin levels and supplementing
    10:27 Sunshine, fresh air, and grounding
    13:05 Support your detoxing pathways
    13:54 Therapy and recovering from trauma
    20:24 Limbic Retraining, Gratitude journaling
    22:38 The importance of connection
    24:40 Community Resources

    HELPFUL LINKS:

    Redmond's Relyte: https://redmond.life/pages/re-lyte
    LMNT's recipe at home: https://science.drinklmnt.com/electrolytes/best-homemade-electrolyte-drink-for-dehydration

    CIRS knowledgeable therapists:

    Brenda Stewart, LMHC, NCC, CTH with Untamed Iona: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy
    Mindy Mastruserio at Healing Connection Counseling: https://healingconnectioncounseling.org/

    Our episode on trauma and CIRS: https://youtu.be/i6QD0eQqELw?si=RmhC7Ocm3AhGmfaH

    Gratitude app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/morning-gratitude-journal/id1455594587

    CIRS Communities:

    The CIRS Group! https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/
    Jenny Johnson's group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective
    Christian Navarro-Torres' group: https://www.cirslab.com/
    Meditation Community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/c/practice-portal-home/cirs-only-package
    Breathwork Community: https://mokshaembodied.com/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    27 min
  • The TOP 15 BOOKS for people with chronic illness: Heal from CIRS and beyond!

    For more information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In this episode, we share our top book recommendations that have significantly contributed to our health and healing journeys. Whether you're dealing with CIRS, chronic illness, mental health struggles, or just looking to expand your knowledge, we've got you covered. We discuss books on CIRS-specific guidance, mental health, relationships, diet and nutrition, and managing chronic pain. We hope you gain some great tips to help you self-advocate and make informed decisions for your health. Links to all the books mentioned are listed below! (no affiliate links, we're lazy lol).

    For more information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer

    01:08 Childhood memories and love for books
    02:01 Practical Books for CIRS Patients
    04:30 Environment and remediation books
    08:03 Mental Health books
    13:17 Books to help with ADHD symptoms
    15:57 Books to help with romantic relationships and intimacy
    17:34 Diet and Nutrition Books
    21:01 Chronic Pain and back health
    23:24 Conclusion

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    LINKS TO BOOKS MENTIONED:

    PRACTICAL BOOKS, CIRS RELATED
    Mold Controlled: A Guide to Finding, Fixing, Preventing, and Getting Help with Mold Problems in Homes: https://a.co/d/4btLJWx
    By John Banta

    Prescriptions for a Healthy House: https://a.co/d/1zbkonM

    By John Banta, Paula Baker-Laporte

    Mold Illness: Surviving and Thriving: https://a.co/d/gSm0fW0

    By Paula Vetter, Laurie Rossi, Cindy Edwards

    The 30-day Carnivore Boot Camp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    By Jacie Gregory

    MENTAL HEALTH BOOKS

    The Joy Plan: How I Took 30 Days to Stop Worrying, Quit Complaining, and Find Ridiculous Happiness: https://a.co/d/dI4KzYd
    By Kaia Roman

    The Body Keeps the Score: https://a.co/d/j20RXWy

    by Bessel van der Kolk

    How to ADHD: An Insider's Guide to Working with Your Brain (Not Against It): https://a.co/d/blAhgLB

    By Jessica McCabe, check out her youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@HowtoADHD

    ADHD 2.0: New Science and Essential Strategies for Thriving with Distraction--from Childhood through Adulthood: https://a.co/d/djFYNll

    By Edward M. Hallowell and John J. Ratey

    Delivered From Distraction: Getting the Most Out of Life with Attention Deficit Disorder: https://a.co/d/9BoPw5g

    By Edward M. Hallowell and John J. Ratey

    RELATIONSHIP HELP

    Come As You Are: Revised and Updated: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life: https://a.co/d/dVH2c9m
    Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections: https://a.co/d/gZE4MPi
    both by Emily Nagoski

    PHYSICAL PAIN BOOKS

    The Back Mechanic: https://a.co/d/a7DFQCE
    By Stuart McGill

    DIET AND NUTRITION

    Gut and Physiology Syndrome (GAPS): Natural Treatment for Allergies, Autoimmune Illness, Arthritis, Gut Problems, Fatigue, Hormonal Problems, Neurological Disease and More: https://a.co/d/hryn8Px
    By Natasha Campbell McBride

    Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats: https://a.co/d/dYfULwO

    By Sally Fallon

    Toxic Superfoods: How Oxalate Overload Is Making You Sick--and How to Get Better: https://a.co/d/i0Ejr40

    By Sally K. Norton


    The CIRS Group:
    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    25 min
  • A Day in the Life of a CIRS Patient: Find manageable routines to help you heal!

    For more info and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In today's episode of The CIRS Group podcast, we will dive into the intricacies of managing life as a CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) patient. We will cover timing binder doses, the importance of getting sun and fresh air, how to manage the cleaning schedule, and lots more. As always, consult your Shoemaker Certified Practitioner before implementing any changes to your treatment plan. None of this should be considered medical advice. We hope this episode helps you improve the day-to-day experience of living with CIRS. For more info and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro and disclaimer
    1:18 First thing: take your binder
    1:54 Why work with a Shoemaker Certified provider or Proficiency Partner
    2:18 Why have fat or fiber with binders?
    3:00 How long to wait to take supplements and why
    5:07 Cleaning tips and tricks
    6:05 Get some sun and fresh air
    6:53 Shift or move your iAdapt air purifier
    7:42 How to handle the rest of your binder doses
    9:20 Home maintenance to avoid leaks and water damage
    10:57 Check in with your CIRS coach or community
    12:25 Changing your bedding, track your symptoms before bed
    14:55 Sleep tips!
    15:57 This was a perfect CIRS day, but you don't have to be perfect to heal
    17:55 When to utilize a CIRS Coach
    18:38 Progress over Perfect

    HELPFUL LINKS:

    Our episode on binders: https://youtu.be/KAQfLXuPjFI?si=_TqJ7_1yk5o6VvN8
    Our episode on binder timing: https://youtu.be/hrTUMDfDpIY?si=zbgMmN72hbPd1APB
    Leak detectors:
    Wifi enabled: https://a.co/d/4muXdkp
    non-wifi: https://a.co/d/5tw0cvZ
    Under-sink mats: https://a.co/d/9MFcdrd
    How to find a Proficiency Partner CIRS Coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates
    Or join us over at The CIRS Group! https://thecirsgroup.com


    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    20 min
  • Is your brain inflamed or shrinking?! Find out with the NeuroQuant MRI!

    For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

    Join us in today's episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as we discuss the NeuroQuant, a specialized brain MRI crucial for those with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Learn why this scan is so important, how it helps track brain health, and its application in diagnosing conditions like dementia. Get tips on how to prepare for your NeuroQuant MRI, and be sure you get the right scan with the right software. Note: This video is for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice.

    For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
    01:06 How CIRS affects the brain with inflammation and atrophy
    02:00 How the NeuroQuant can diagnose neurodegeneration
    03:31 Interpreting NeuroQuant results
    04:54 When and why should you get a NeuroQuant?
    08:15 NeuroQuant vs. the GENIE Test
    09:17 Tips for getting an MRI, Barbara and Jacie's experience
    15:01 NeuroQuant software versions and conversion issue

    HELPFUL LINKS:

    Our episode with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres all about the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c
    Book a consultation with Christian: https://consult-christian.as.me/schedule/a89e8b00
    Surviving Mold’s list of NQ locations: https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/neuroquant/neuroquant-locations/locations-currently-offering-neuroquant

    Additionally, here are the four companies that should be able to do NeuroQuant MRI:

    SimonMed Imaging
    RAYUS Radiology
    US Radiology Specialists
    Envision Radiology

    Once you select a location, call to find out:

    1. Their ability to apply the NeuroQuant Protocol to an MRI without contrast
    2. Are they covered by your insurance? If not, what is the out-of-pocket cost for the test?
    You’ll then ask your doctor to send the order to them directly on your behalf.

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    18 min
  • CIRSx Recap 2025: Indoor Environmental Professional (IEP) Insights and Clean Home Tips for CIRS

    For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

    Today, we're concluding our CIRSx 2025 recap, this time focusing on environmental topics and practical advice for maintaining a healthy home as a CIRS patient. We'll cover remediation planning, small particle cleaning, affordable housing for CIRS patients, and new testing methods for mold detection. Key speakers such as Brandon Apple, Ming Dooley, Michael Schrantz, Derrick Denis, and Bill Weber provide valuable insights on topics like HVAC inspection, sewer gas issues, and culturing molds. Tune in to get essential tips on home maintenance, mold remediation, and new developments in indoor air quality analysis. Let us know what you think in the comments!

    For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/


    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Introduction and Overview
    01:22 Successful Building Remediation with Clarity, Accountability and Sequencing: A Case Study with Brandon Apple
    04:31 My Very Own Sirewall Part 2: The Adventure Continues with Ming Dooley, DACM
    07:09 MAGIS Home Building Company
    09:00 Microbial Growth Where You Least Expect with Greg Weatherman, CMC
    11:01 Health Effects of Sewer Gas with Derrick Denis , CIEC, CIAQP, CAC
    17:24 Revolution in the Analysis of Indoor Air Quality: Water Vapor as a Carrier of Toxic Substances with Associate Professor Kirsi Vaali, PhD
    22:34 Flexin' the Flow: Your Guide into HVAC Inspection & Cleaning with Michael Schrantz, CIEC, CMI
    28:40 Culturing: Analyzing Dust for Viable Mold with Bill Weber, GC, CR, CMRS, CIEC
    33:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    HELPFUL LINKS:

    Brandon Apple's website: https://www.moldsci.com/about-us/our-team/brandon-apple
    Ming Dooley's contact info: [email protected]
    MAGIS website: https://www.magisdevelopments.com/
    Greg Weatherman's website: https://www.survivingremediation.com/one-on-one-with-greg
    Derrick Denis' website: https://www.csceng.com/
    Kirsi Vaali's info: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kirsi-Vaali
    Michael Schrantz' website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/
    Bill Weber's website: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    35 min
  • The Legal and Psychological toll of CIRS and mold illness: CIRSx 2025 Recap!

    For more information and support, visit our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com

    Today we are continuing our recap of the talks we heard at CIRSx 2025, and specifically we will be covering the legal and psychological topics. Here are the talks we will be recapping:

    CIRS Research Committee Update: An Update on the CIRS Research with Glenn DiTulio

    A Lawyer's Shared Experience as a CIRS Patient, Lawyer and the Legal Future of CIRS with Ryan Schnack, Esq.
    The Psychological Journey of CIRS Recovery: Rediscovering Agency and Purpose on the Healing Path with Ryan J. Holsapple, PhD
    Using Data to Restore Truth in the Courtroom with Dr. Scott McMahon
    Fight for Your Right to Practice with Dr. Lauren Sparks, DNP, CNP, APRN
    Complex Family Systems in CIRS with Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
    00:40 The CIRS Research Committee by Glenn DiTulio
    02:47 A Lawyer's experience with CIRS by Ryan Schnack, Esq.
    08:56 A husband's story of supporting his wife through CIRS by Ryan Holsapple, PhD
    13:21 Published Research to support CIRS in legal battles by Dr. Scott McMahon
    16:47 Fight for your right to practice by Dr. Lauren Sparks
    21:15 Complex Family Systems in CIRS with Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith
    24:32 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview

    Helpful Links/Info:

    Official CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/
    CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/
    Email Glenn about the CIRS Research Foundation's work: [email protected]
    Melanie Pensak's website: https://www.melaniepensak.com/
    Ryan Schanck, Esq.'s website: https://www.ryanschnacklaw.com/
    Codes to use so CIRS symptoms are taken seriously in legal situations:
    277.120: Contact with toxic exposure
    R65.10: Chronic Inflammation
    R65.11: Systemic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (SIRS)
    M35.81: COVID- multi system inflammatory response syndrome
    Ryan Holsapple , PhD's website: https://www.centerforcreativechoice.com/
    Dr. Scott McMahon's website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/
    Dr. Lauren Sparks' website: https://www.untamediona.com/
    Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith's website: https://www.silvertreewellness.com/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    26 min
  • The latest innovations in CIRS and mold illness treatment: CIRSx 2025 Recap!

    For more information and support, visit us at our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com

    This week, we are continuing our recap of the CIRSx 2025 conference! Today, we are focusing on the treatment talks:

    Understanding the Pitfalls of Tick Borne Testing with Christian Navarro Torres, PhD, CIRS Lab

    Finding the Tick-Borne Needle in the Haystack: Tick Borne Infections in CIRS Patients with Peg DiTulio, DNP, APRN
    Diagnosing Lyme and Co-infections: An Investigation of the Availability, Diversity and Validity of the Current Testing with Dr. Laura Varga, DAOM
    Air Oasis EdTalk with Brad Baxter, COO
    A Unifying Theory of Neurodegeneration with Dr. Dale Bredesen
    The Actinobacteria Reduction Study: Making Life Easier for the CIRS Community with Eric Dorninger, ND, LAc
    Brain Injury in CIRS: From Specific Causation to a Unique Transcriptomic Fingerprint in Parkinson's with Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker
    The Principles of Body Typing as a Critical Tool for CIRS Success with Erin Livers , BA, ICNT
    Evidence-based Diagnoses and Strategies for the CIRS Microbiome with Dr. Lacey Venazi

    For more information and support, visit us at our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Introduction and disclaimer
    00:45 Tick-Borne testing insights by Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, Dr. Peg DiTulio, Dr. Laura Varga
    09:02 AirOasis ED Talk by Brad Baxter
    11:19 Dr. Dale Bredesen's Keynote on Alzheimer's and Neurodegeneration
    15:46 Actinobacteria Reduction Study by Dr. Eric Dorninger
    18:20 Dr. Shoemaker's Talk on Parkinson's Research
    20:45 Principles of Body Typing for Nutrition by Nutritionist Erin Livers
    23:23 CIRS and the Gut Microbiome by Dr. Lacey Venazi
    27:41 Conclusion and Additional Resources

    Helpful links/info:

    CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/
    Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres' website: https://www.cirslab.com/
    Dr. Peg DiTulio's website: https://regenixhealing.com/
    Dr. Laura Varga: https://www.instagram.com/thejupiterapproach/ or email her at [email protected]
    Air Oasis website: https://www.airoasis.com/
    Dr. Dale Bredesen's website: https://www.apollohealthco.com/dr-bredesen/
    The Flow Free game Jacie plays: https://www.bgames.com/game/flow-free-online/
    Our last CIRSx recap episode: https://youtu.be/0aLD_1ixWXU?si=5-DxFVxgy7dleux3
    Dr. Eric Dorninger's website: https://drdorninger.com/
    Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's website: https://www.survivingmold.com/
    Erin Livers' website: https://foodasnourishment.com/
    Dr. Abravanel's Body Type Diet and Lifetime Nutrition Plan: https://a.co/d/g6Z1bP7
    Dr. Lacey Venazi's website: https://www.drlacey.org/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group:

    Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

    Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
    Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

    Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

    29 min

About The CIRS Group Podcast

From the publisher's feed

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness.

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