The Divorce Podcast

Shares, crypto, business interests. Complex assets can feel like a foreign language during divorce – but with the right knowledge, they don't have to.

Kate is joined by Tom Francis, Head of Personal Finance at Octopus Money, to explore what complex assets actually are, how they're approached in a divorce settlement and how to feel confident making the most of your finances after divorce.

We talk about:

• What makes an asset 'complex' – and the three levels of complexity
• What can and can't be divided in a divorce settlement
• What to consider when negotiating complex assets
• Tips for understanding your assets and building financial confidence post-divorce

This episode is for anyone who feels overwhelmed by the financial side of divorce – and is ready to feel more in control of their future.

Meet Tom Francis

Tom is Head of Personal Finance at Octopus Money, a money advice brand for everyone. Tom spends his time designing the customer journey to deliver regulated financial advice to the many, using the best of technology and humanity. He’s a fully qualified and chartered financial planner, and before joining Octopus Money, he played a leading role in building and scaling robo-advisers in the UK, including Wealthsimple (which was later sold to Moneyfarm) and Nutmeg.

You can learn more about Octopus Money on their website. You can also hear more financial advice from Tom on the Keep the Change podcast, and follow him on Instagram for bite-sized money tips. 

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Ready to take a practical next step? 

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. 

You can also book a free consultation with an Octopus Money expert for specialist financial guidance alongside your separation.

Want ongoing support through separation?

Kate’s book amicable divorce includes a dedicated chapter on navigating finances during separation, including reaching financial agreements based on your real needs (not just 50/50 splits) and guidance on commonly overlooked assets like pensions. Find it on Amazon today.

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If you've ever felt guilty for putting yourself first, this episode is for you.

Kate is joined by Valerie Jones, author, coach and founder of The Selfish Woman movement, to explore what it really means to be a 'selfish woman' in divorce - and why reclaiming that word could be one of the most important things you do for yourself.

We talk about:

• What being a 'selfish woman' really means – and why reclaiming it matters
• How to rebuild self-trust when divorce has knocked your confidence
• The moment Valerie knew it was time to leave her marriage
• The difference between healthy guilt and the kind that holds you back
• Why taking a moment to pause is one of the most powerful things you can do
• Practical ways to start showing up for yourself again

This episode is for any woman who has ever put herself last – whether she’s in the middle of separation, still deciding or rebuilding life on the other side.

Meet Valerie Jones

Valerie Jones is the author of The Selfish Year, host of The Selfish Woman podcast, and founder of The Selfish Woman movement. Her work helps women let go of ‘good girl’ conditioning and people-pleasing, stop seeking external approval and build unapologetic self-trust. Valerie meets women exactly where they are and helps them show up for themselves, fully. 

You can learn more about Valerie on her website and buy her book The Selfish Year on Amazon. Complete Valerie's quiz to find out the hidden ways you might be sabotaging yourself. 

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Ready to take a practical next step?

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation.

Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation?

Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating the emotional journey of separation, as well as practical advice to help you through every step of the process. Find it on Amazon today.

Got a question for a future episode?

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You know your marriage is over. But you're still waiting – for the right moment, more certainty, or permission you're not sure will ever come. This episode is for anyone who's been circling the same question and is ready to stop waiting and start moving forward.

Kate is joined by Farhana Hussain, the UK's first divorce doula and author of She's Not Done Yet, to explore what keeps people stuck in the space between knowing their marriage is over and actually applying for divorce – and how moving forward is about choosing to become the author of your own life.

We talk about:

• Farhana’s own separation story and what led her to write She’s Not Done Yet
• Why people wait – even when they know what they want
• Why even amicable divorces can lead to being stuck
• The emotional and practical cost of delay
• Decision fatigue and why divorce is never just one decision
• How to stop waiting for permission and start authoring your own life

This episode is for anyone who feels like their life is on hold - and is ready to stop waiting and start moving forward.

Meet the Divorce Doula

Farhana Hussain is the UK’s first Divorce Doula, founder of the award-winning business My Divorce Doula™, and author of She’s Not Done Yet: A Divorce Doula’s Manifesto for Women Who Refuse to Stay Stuck. Farhana helps people move from circling the same question to making a clear decision they can stand behind, so they enter the divorce process grounded, prepared and able to engage constructively.

You can get in touch with Farhana through her website and you can buy her book on Amazon today.

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Ready to take a practical next step? 

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. 

Want ongoing support through separation?

Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.

Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating the early stages of separation, including deciding whether your relationship is over and having the separation conversation in a way that reduces shock and defensiveness. Find it on Amazon today.

Got a question for a future episode?

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If you’re navigating life in a stepfamily and finding the dynamics more complex than you expected, this episode offers practical guidance to help you build stronger, healthier relationships.

In this episode, Kate is joined by April Eldemire, a licensed marriage and family therapist and former stepmum, and Bec Jones, Head of Negotiation at amicable, to explore the realities of blended and stepfamily life. Together, they unpack some of the most common challenges blended families face and share thoughtful advice on how to create a more connected and supportive family environment.

We talk about:

• How the 'evil stepmother' stereotype still affects stepmums today
• Common challenges when creating blended families
• Setting boundaries and approaching discipline in stepfamilies
• How the couple’s relationship can shape stepfamily stability
• Building strong relationships with stepchildren over time

This episode is for parents and step-parents building blended families, who want to approach stepfamily life with more understanding, patience and confidence.

Meet April and Bec

April Eldemire is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, former stepmum, and the creator of The Blended Family Alignment Blueprint, a framework that helps couples end power struggles and parent as a united team. While April’s own blended family didn’t last, her journey fuels her passion for helping others avoid the same mistakes she made. With over 13 years of experience specialising in stepfamily dynamics, she’s on a mission to help families replace conflict with teamwork and build homes where love can finally lead.

Having had over 10 years of experience as a divorce lawyer, Bec Jones leads amicable's Negotiation team. She played a vital role in developing the amicable process and is renowned for her empathetic approach. With expertise in child arrangements, blended families and complex finances, she is a fountain of knowledge.

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Feeling ready to take practical steps forward? 

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs.

Want ongoing support through separation?

Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.

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If you’re separating with adult children and finding it more emotionally complicated than you expected, this episode offers calm, reassuring guidance to help you navigate it with care.

In this episode, Kate shares thoughtful, practical tips for separating when your children are grown. She explores why adult children are still deeply affected by family change and how the way you handle separation now can shape your family relationships for years to come.

In this episode, Kate covers:

• How to talk to your adult children about separation in a calm, respectful way
• What practical conversations to have early with your ex-partner – from holidays and celebrations to future grandchildren
• How kindness, clear boundaries and thoughtful planning now can support a healthier extended family long term

This episode is for parents going through separation with adult children who want to handle it with empathy, steadiness and care, while protecting the relationships that matter most.

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Feeling ready to take practical steps forward? 

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs.

Want ongoing support through separation?

Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.

Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today.

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If you’re trying to feel better after separation and make sense of what healing really looks like, this episode offers honest reassurance and practical guidance for moving forward with self-compassion.

Kate is joined by Corey Seemiller, award-winning leadership professor and author of The Soulmate Strategy, to explore what helped her recover after a split and why continuing to try new approaches was an important part of her healing.

In this episode, we cover:

• Corey’s personal separation story and early steps toward healing
• What worked and what didn’t from the 44 different things she tried to feel better
• How writing a deeply personal book shaped her career and academic research
• Practical, realistic advice for moving forward after separation and building healthier relationships

This episode is for anyone navigating life after a breakup who wants reassurance that healing isn’t linear and that growth often comes from curiosity and kindness towards yourself.

Trigger warning: this episode includes discussion of physical injury, so please listen with care.

Meet Corey Seemiller

Corey Seemiller is an award-winning leadership professor, author and accredited life coach. After her own separation, she experimented with 44 different approaches to healing – a journey that became the foundation for her book The Soulmate Strategy and shaped her academic research on relationships and personal growth. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, Time Magazine and Newsweek, and her highly popular TED Talk. She co-hosts the Rock That Relationship! podcast, discussing disasters and successes with breakups, healing processes, dating and relationships.

You can learn more about Corey’s new book The Soulmate Strategy here. For more relationship advice, you can tune in to the Rock That Relationship! podcast

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Need expert help right now?

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation.

Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation?

Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and life after divorce - plus an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.

Kate’s book amicable divorce includes a dedicated chapter about healing post-separation and moving on. Find it on Amazon today.

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If you’re facing a house move during or after separation and feeling overwhelmed by the logistics, emotions or sheer volume of decisions, this episode offers calm, practical guidance to help you feel more in control.

Kate is joined by moving experts Nicholas Illingworth and James Mehmet from Abels Moving Services to share practical guidance that will help you feel more prepared for the move in just a few minutes.

In this episode, we cover:

• The key differences between a standard house move and moving after separation
• Why detailed planning is especially important when emotions are running high
• Practical packing tips to reduce stress and last-minute panic
• Strategies to make the move smoother for you and your family
• Common logistics mistakes to avoid when moving out post-divorce

This episode is for anyone moving house during or after a separation who wants clear, expert-led advice to make the process more organised and a little less daunting.

About Abels

Nicholas Illingworth (Partnership Manager) and James Mehmet (Branch Manager and Head of Special Projects) are moving experts at Abels Moving Services.

Since 1958, Abels Moving Services has specialised in high-quality International shipping, home removals and storage - including sensitive moves during separation, where emotional and practical considerations require extra care. Their in-house moving teams are experts in moving antiques and specialist items such as pianos, grandfather clocks and fine art alongside day-to-day household items and furniture.

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Need expert help right now?

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation.

Want ongoing support through separation?

Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.

Kate’s book amicable divorce includes practical advice for navigating all aspects of separation — from early decisions to financial planning and rebuilding after divorce. Find it on Amazon today.

Got a question for a future episode?

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If money conversations in relationships feel uncomfortable, overwhelming or you avoid them altogether, this episode offers practical guidance on financial transparency and being open and honest about money.

Kate is joined by Tom Francis, Head of Personal Finance at Octopus Money, to explore why money conversations feel so difficult in relationships – and how financial transparency during separation can help you feel more confident and reduce conflict.

In this episode, we cover:

• What financial transparency looks like in relationships and during separation
• How to start understanding your own finances and build confidence
• Why money conversations feel so difficult
• Practical ways to approach financial discussions constructively
• How financial openness supports a smoother, fairer separation

This episode is for anyone navigating separation or divorce who wants to feel more informed and to make clearer financial decisions with confidence.

Meet Tom Francis

Tom is Head of Personal Finance at Octopus Money, a money advice brand for everyone. Tom spends his time designing the customer journey to deliver regulated financial advice to the many, using the best of technology and humanity. He’s a fully qualified and chartered financial planner, and before joining Octopus Money, he played a leading role in building and scaling robo-advisers in the UK, including Wealthsimple (which was later sold to Moneyfarm) and Nutmeg.

You can learn more about Octopus Money on their website, and you can also book a free consultation with a money expert here. You can hear more financial advice from Tom on Keep the Change podcast, and make sure to follow him on Instagram for more bite-sized money tips. 

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Need expert help right now?

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation.

Want ongoing support through your separation journey?

Kate’s book amicable divorce is out in March, including dedicated chapters with practical guidance on dealing with money during and after separation. Find it on Amazon today.

Got a question for a future episode?

Share your thoughts at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.

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If you came out of a relationship feeling ashamed, stuck in self-blame or questioning your self-worth, this episode offers compassionate guidance to help you heal and rebuild confidence.

Kate is joined by Sarah Wilson, founder of Coastal Coaching and host of The Inner SUCCESS Story podcast, to explore how toxic relationship patterns form, why shame often follows separation and how low self-esteem can make breakups feel even more painful - especially if you were the one who chose to leave.

In this episode, we cover:

• Sarah’s personal experience of staying in an unhealthy relationship
• How shame can show up after a breakup 
• The link between childhood experiences and adult relationship patterns
• Why low self-esteem can worsen the emotional impact of separation
• Actionable steps to build self-love and self-compassion post-divorce

This episode is for anyone navigating the emotional aftermath of a difficult breakup who wants to understand themselves with more compassion and begin rebuilding confidence from a steadier place.

Trigger warning: this episode covers content that some listeners might find distressing, including toxic relationships, emotional abuse and shame.

Meet Sarah Wilson

Sarah is the founder of Coastal Coaching (Sussex) Limited, a keynote speaker and the host of The Inner SUCCESS Story podcast.

Her early family relationships shaped a deep sense of not being good enough, a pattern that followed her into adulthood and her marriage. After leaving an emotionally abusive relationship, and inspired by her young son, she committed to deep personal change.

In 2020, Sarah founded Coastal Coaching to support professionals stepping into leadership and help them build confidence from the inside out. Her work is grounded in accredited coaching practice, lived experience and a belief that people have more choice than they realise. 

You can learn more about Sarah on her website or you can get in touch with her on LinkedIn. For more tips on how to break free from self-sabotaging habits, you can tune in to her podcast The Inner S.U.C.C.E.S.S. Story.

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Need expert help right now?

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation.

Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation?

Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.

Kate’s book amicable divorce is out in March, including practical guidance on emotional recovery, self-compassion and moving forward after separation. Find it on Amazon today.

Got a question for a future episode?

Share your thoughts at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.

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If you’re finding conflict hard to manage during separation and co-parenting, this episode is full of practical tips to help you disagree in a calmer, more constructive way.

Kate is joined by psychotherapist and divorce coach Eve Stanway to explore why arguments aren’t always a bad thing – and how learning to disagree well can transform your relationship with your ex-partner and your children.

In this episode, we cover:

• Eve’s separation story and how arguments shaped it 
• Why arguments don’t have to be destructive
• How to break cycles of unproductive conflict
• The key skills that stop disagreements from escalating
• Why self-regulation matters during separation and co-parenting
• How to have productive arguments with your children

This episode is for anyone navigating separation or co-parenting who wants to reduce conflict and communicate more effectively.

Meet Eve Stanway

Eve Stanway is a psychotherapist with 25 years of experience, break-up and divorce coach and published author who specialises in guiding parents, individuals and professionals through separation, co-parenting and recovery from toxic relationships. 

You can learn more about Eve and get in touch with her on her website, and for more helpful communication tips, you can tune in to her brand-new podcast, Dare To Speak: Difficult Conversations That Change Everything. 

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Need expert help right now?

Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs.

Want ongoing support through separation?

Kate’s book amicable divorce is out in March, including dedicated chapters on reducing conflict, communication and co-parenting. Find it on Amazon today.

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