In this episode of the Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast, I'm speaking directly to the men who are walking through the intensity of high conflict divorce — the pressure, the triggers, the confusion, and the deep internal unraveling that often comes with it. Men in high conflict divorce are asked to hold an extraordinary amount: to respond instead of react, to stay grounded when provoked, and to lead even when everything around them feels uncertain. And while I coach men through these challenges every single day, I also know that some truths land more powerfully when they come from another man who embodies the discipline, steadiness, and intentional leadership required to rise during divorce.
That's why I invited Michael Holt, founder of the international Savage & Saint Collective, to join me for this conversation. Michael has dedicated his life to helping men reclaim emotional sovereignty, cultivate presence, and embody a form of masculine leadership that is rooted in clarity rather than chaos. His work blends meditation, martial arts, psychology, holistic health, and serious inner discipline — and it aligns deeply with what I teach men navigating high conflict divorce: that the real power lies not in controlling others, but in mastering yourself.
Michael and I explore the patterns that keep men stuck in reactivity during divorce and the internal shifts required to break those cycles. We talk about the cost of abandoning your center, how quickly men give away their power when triggered, and what it takes to stay grounded when you feel attacked, misunderstood, or overwhelmed. Michael offers a male perspective on strength that doesn't rely on force, suppression, or avoidance, but instead comes from presence, vitality, and self-awareness — qualities that become essential when the stakes are high and the conflict feels relentless.
Together, we dig into the difference between reactive masculinity and embodied leadership, and why men who learn to regulate their nervous system and stay anchored in who they are gain far more influence — not just in their divorce, but in their lives, relationships, and fatherhood. We discuss how men can cultivate discipline, stability, and clarity even in the middle of legal battles, emotional turmoil, and the dismantling of a marriage. This is the kind of conversation that gives men direction, grounding, and a roadmap for showing up as the man they want to be, not the man the conflict tries to turn them into.
Michael Holt is a powerful example of what it looks like to live the work rather than talk about it. His Savage & Saint Collective supports men around the world in strengthening their inner foundation so they can show up with integrity, courage, and calm — exactly what is needed in high conflict divorce.
If you're a man navigating divorce and you've been searching for guidance from someone who truly understands the internal journey you're on, this episode will offer the clarity and steadiness you've been craving. This is about reclaiming yourself, rebuilding your center, and stepping into the kind of leadership that can change the trajectory of your life.
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In this episode of the Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast, I'm speaking directly to the men who are walking through the intensity of high conflict divorce — the pressure, the triggers, the confusion, and the deep internal unraveling that often comes with it. Men in high conflict divorce are asked to hold an extraordinary amount: to respond instead of react, to stay grounded when provoked, and to lead even when everything around them feels uncertain. And while I coach men through these challenges every single day, I also know that some truths land more powerfully when they come from another man who embodies the discipline, steadiness, and intentional leadership required to rise during divorce.
That's why I invited Michael Holt, founder of the international Savage & Saint Collective, to join me for this conversation. Michael has dedicated his life to helping men reclaim emotional sovereignty, cultivate presence, and embody a form of masculine leadership that is rooted in clarity rather than chaos. His work blends meditation, martial arts, psychology, holistic health, and serious inner discipline — and it aligns deeply with what I teach men navigating high conflict divorce: that the real power lies not in controlling others, but in mastering yourself.
Michael and I explore the patterns that keep men stuck in reactivity during divorce and the internal shifts required to break those cycles. We talk about the cost of abandoning your center, how quickly men give away their power when triggered, and what it takes to stay grounded when you feel attacked, misunderstood, or overwhelmed. Michael offers a male perspective on strength that doesn't rely on force, suppression, or avoidance, but instead comes from presence, vitality, and self-awareness — qualities that become essential when the stakes are high and the conflict feels relentless.
Together, we dig into the difference between reactive masculinity and embodied leadership, and why men who learn to regulate their nervous system and stay anchored in who they are gain far more influence — not just in their divorce, but in their lives, relationships, and fatherhood. We discuss how men can cultivate discipline, stability, and clarity even in the middle of legal battles, emotional turmoil, and the dismantling of a marriage. This is the kind of conversation that gives men direction, grounding, and a roadmap for showing up as the man they want to be, not the man the conflict tries to turn them into.
Michael Holt is a powerful example of what it looks like to live the work rather than talk about it. His Savage & Saint Collective supports men around the world in strengthening their inner foundation so they can show up with integrity, courage, and calm — exactly what is needed in high conflict divorce.
If you're a man navigating divorce and you've been searching for guidance from someone who truly understands the internal journey you're on, this episode will offer the clarity and steadiness you've been craving. This is about reclaiming yourself, rebuilding your center, and stepping into the kind of leadership that can change the trajectory of your life.
Connect with Michael:
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
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