Join host Matt Jones as he sits down with Josh Coplin, co-founder of Eden, a startup focused on revolutionizing the HVAC industry with innovative tools like the Eden Instant Quote. In this episode, they delve into the evolving dynamics of sales processes, especially in the trades industry, and discuss how implementing on-site quoting can streamline operations and boost close rates. Josh shares insights on the significant changes in consumer behavior, particularly pre and post-COVID, and highlights the importance of adapting to a culture seeking instant gratification and greater control over purchasing processes. 

Check the full episode on this podcast: https://youtu.be/_cc5189USiw

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00:00 "Streamlining CRM in Trade Biz
06:19 "Importance of Persistent Follow-Up
07:32 Maximize Follow-Up for Sales Success
11:48 Instant On-Site Quoting Boosts Conversions
13:37 Improve, Don't Settle
20:24 CRM's Impact on Construction Businesses
23:47 Transforming Knowledge into Scalable Systems
25:39 Embracing and Adopting Technology
30:03 "Team Collaboration Enhances Customer Success


Things you'll Learn in this Video:

• How on-demand/on-site pricing can increase your close rate
• Why modern consumers expect instant, transparent quotes
• The importance of streamlining your sales process for better results
• Key benefits of qualifying leads before site visits
• How online tools and automation save time and boost conversions
• Tips for leveraging content and video to build trust and educate customers
• Why sharing prices up front helps eliminate poor-fit leads
• Simple ways to create a smoother, more effective sales experience

Whether you're in HVAC or another trade, this conversation is packed with relevant strategies for optimizing your sales process by providing transparency, leveraging technology, and respecting your customer’s time. Tune in to discover how your business can benefit from these modern sales techniques and elevate your conversion rates.

Alternative Titles: 
How On-Demand Pricing Boosts Your Sales Conversion RatesStreamline Sales with Real-Time Quotes for Higher Closing Rates
The Power of Instant Pricing in Closing More Deals
Modernizing Your Sales Process with On-Demand Quoting Techniques
From Lead to Sale: The Impact of Fast Quoting in the Trades

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In this episode, host Matt Jones sits down with Erick Vargas, entrepreneur and co-founder of Followup CRM, for a deep dive into the world of customer relationship management (CRM) in the construction and trade industries. Kicking off the first podcast of 2025, Matt and Erick unpack the evolving role of CRMs—from their origins as lead and sales tools, to their vital importance in streamlining operations, improving communication, and scaling businesses.

Erick shares his journey developing Followup CRM, a platform specifically designed for contractors that emerged out of real-world frustrations with generic software. Together, they explore the critical differences between CRMs, job management, and project management software, and discuss why so many businesses lose sales simply by failing to follow up with leads. With practical anecdotes, industry stats, and insights into integrating new tech, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to future-proof their trade business and build company value through smart systems and processes.

Whether you're a business owner, salesperson, or just interested in construction technology, you’ll find plenty of actionable takeaways on maximizing your pipeline, optimizing your team, and driving real growth.

Listen to the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/2AChnrdchRs

00:00 "Streamlining CRM in Trade Biz
06:19 "Importance of Persistent Follow-Up
07:32 Maximize Follow-Up for Sales Success
11:48 Instant On-Site Quoting Boosts Conversions
13:37 "Improve, Don't Settle"
20:24 "CRM's Impact on Construction Businesses"
23:47 Transforming Knowledge into Scalable Systems
25:39 Embracing and Adopting Technology
30:03 "Team Collaboration Enhances Customer Success"

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Enjoyed the podcast? Take your trade business to the next level by incorporating AI! Don’t get left behind—explore Tradie Hub at tradiehub.net. Discover game-changing AI solutions designed to boost efficiency and growth for trade businesses worldwide. Check it out today! 

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Matt Jones kicks off by diving deep into the key lessons from the previous year and discussing the game-changing opportunities that lie ahead for trade businesses. Matt explores how the rise of accessible AI tools—like ChatGPT—has revolutionized efficiency, productivity, and marketing within the trades industry, bringing a breath of fresh air to systems that were becoming stale.

He breaks down how businesses can leverage data-driven decision making and AI-powered analytics to gain a competitive edge, emphasizing the vital importance of understanding your numbers: lead costs, cost per acquisition, and customer lifetime value. Matt also delves into the growing influence of voice search and explains why optimizing for more conversational, personalized interactions will set your business apart in 2025 and beyond.

Whether you’re looking to double your revenue or refine your sales process, Matt shares practical frameworks, strategic insights, and real-life examples that show exactly how you can scale yaour trade business systematically and sustainably this year. Get ready for actionable advice and inspiration to help you set—and smash—your business goals!

Listen to the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/qd5tqapLyn4

00:00 Optimizing AI for Voice Search
06:46 Bathroom Renovation Follow-Up Strategy
09:54 Revamping Sales for Better Results
10:59 TradieBot AI Streamlines Lead Management
14:16 "Trade Businesses: Boosting Ad Returns"

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Matt is joined by Brandon White for an engaging discussion on the evolving landscape of AI and its profound impact on modern-day businesses. In this episode, explore the history and expansive future of AI, from its beginnings in the late 20th century to its current revolutionary status with tools like ChatGPT. Brandon, a veteran in the AI space, shares his insights into the development and democratization of AI, drawing parallels with the early days of the internet. Discover how AI is transforming industries, especially within the trades, by reducing overheads, increasing efficiency, and enhancing customer satisfaction. Whether you're a business owner or simply intrigued by the rapid advancement of technology, this episode delves into the real-world applications and potential challenges of leveraging AI in your operations. Tune in now for a fascinating take on how you can harness the power of AI to drive success in your business.

00:00 AI Transformations in Trade Industries
03:17 AI Development: From ELIZA to PERI
09:13 Self-Driving Tech: Waymo vs. Tesla
10:40 Wearables Revolutionizing Construction Planning
16:27 Quantum Computing: Future Technological Revolution
18:37 Artificial Consciousness and Human Integration
20:41 AI's Historical Bias Impact
26:32 Streamlined Sales Boost Efficiency
28:25 AI in Customer Service Emergencies
32:27 AI Streamlines Manual Financial Tasks
34:51 Podcast Wrap-up and Contact Info

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Website: https://www.3rdbrain.co/ 

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brandoncwhite/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonwhite/ 

X: https://twitter.com/BrandonCWhite 

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We kick off a fascinating two-part conversation with Brandon White on the theme of constructing a digital operations team from scratch. Join hosts Matt Jones and Brandon as they explore what's behind the concept of digital operations, particularly for trade-based businesses like plumbers, electricians, and builders. Discover why having a digital operations team is crucial in today's rapidly evolving marketplace, especially following the challenges and lessons learned from the COVID-19 pandemic. In this episode, we hone in on the importance of documenting workflows and processes, engaging with the role of AI and machine learning, and how these elements can transform business operations into a well-oiled machine. Prepare to gain insights that will help you streamline your business processes, drive efficiency, and ultimately, impact your bottom line. Stay tuned for a captivating journey into the digital transformation of operations!

00:00 Digital Operations & AI Evolution

04:54 Early Web Customization and Tech Ventures

07:49 "COVID's Impact on Trade Businesses"

11:26 Third Grade Lesson on Clarity

15:35 Streamlining Client Onboarding Workflows

19:44 Collaborative Strategy Building

22:50 Balancing Automation with Human Touch

25:57 Balancing Automation and Customer Satisfaction

27:54 Integrating Business Systems for Automation

32:11 Streamlining Business Processes

35:41 Incorporating Feedback for Workflow Optimization

39:12 Understanding Business Metrics for Success

43:24 Data-Driven Marketing Strategy Shift

44:21 Operational Strategy for Success

Connect with Brandon here:

Website: https://www.3rdbrain.co/ 

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brandoncwhite/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonwhite/ 

X: https://twitter.com/BrandonCWhite 

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In today's episode, we're diving into the transformative realm of AEO, or Answer Engine Optimization, a significant evolution in marketing for trade businesses. We'll explore what AEO is, why it's becoming crucial for trade-based businesses, and how it diverges from traditional SEO practices. Join us as we discuss strategies for implementing AEO in your marketing approach, and forecast how it will shape the future of search engine dynamics. From understanding user intent to leveraging AI for enhancing customer interactions, this episode is packed with insights for anyone looking to stay ahead in the digital marketing landscape. So, tune in and learn how to make AEO work for you and your business!


Watch the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/rox2mAHv1QQ

00:00 Boosting Trade Business with AEO Strategies

03:47 Voice Search Revolution in SEO

08:27 "Embracing Local SEO Evolution"

10:23 Understanding User Intent in Queries

13:47 Focus on Creating Useful Content

17:24 Embracing AI and Augmented Reality

21:22 "Streamlining Business Operations"

24:55 AI-Driven Customer Engagement

28:25 SEO & Marketing Strategy Session

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We're diving into the dynamic world of social media and its role in growing your business. Join our host, Matt, and special guest, Mike Andes, as they explore strategies for leveraging social platforms effectively. You'll learn how to create engaging and localized content, the importance of conversion rate optimization, and how to differentiate between social media posting and advertising. Whether you're a small business owner looking to enhance your online presence or an entrepreneur aiming to build a personal brand, this episode is packed with insights to help you succeed in the digital landscape. Tune in to discover how you can turn social media into a powerful tool for business growth.

Watch the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/_FJT6qlLiLg

00:00 Position as experts, create content, engage customers.

06:45 Shift to personalized branding offers marketing opportunities.

08:10 Focus on website conversion to boost performance.

13:52 Businesses struggle with transitioning to marketing models.

17:06 Organic posting differs from social media advertising.

18:28 Community groups as modern word-of-mouth marketing.

22:10 Post thrice weekly; prioritize engaging local content.

24:46 Check show notes for Mike's links.

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• Website: https://www.mikeandes.com/

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In today's episode, we dive into the intricacies of performance pay and strategic business growth with our insightful guest, Mike, from Washington State. Renowned for founding Augusta Lawn Care, a franchise successfully expanded across the US, Canada, and Australia, Mike brings a wealth of experience in incentivizing performance and leveraging social media for business success.

Join host Matt Jones as he explores the concept of 'Pay for Performance' (PFP), where incentivizing employees by offering them a share of labor revenue leads to an efficient and motivated workforce. Mike candidly shares his strategies for measuring labor revenue, aligning incentives, and overcoming the challenges posed by highly customized service industries. Moreover, we delve into the evolving landscape of franchising and licensing models, where financial transparency and incentivizing managers become paramount, especially for absentee owners.

Discover how standardizing services, tracking key performance indicators for non-sales roles, and understanding the dynamics of franchise and licensing models can revolutionize your business practices. This episode also highlights the importance of ethical sales practices, with Mike drawing from his substantial experience in managing franchisees, ensuring their economic success, and avoiding the pitfalls of aggressive sales tactics.

Stay tuned for part two, where Matt and Mike will further explore the power of social media in business growth. Don't miss out on this opportunity to gain valuable insights and access free courses through Mike's website as mentioned in the show notes. Let's get started!


Watch the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/_FJT6qlLiLg

00:00 Performance Pay and Social Media Strategies

04:07 Franchise Profitability Challenges

06:24 Franchising Over Licensing: Legal Shift

09:35 Performance Pay Meritocracy Explained

14:24 "Lessons in Unethical Selling"

16:43 "Business Obligations in Solar Projects"

22:41 Profit Sharing Structure for Managers

23:48 Aligning Profit Sharing with Cash Flow

27:22 Financial Planning and Incentivization Strategy

32:11 Balancing Job Pricing and Team Trust

34:18 Balancing Incentives and Quality

37:28 Path to Franchise Ownership

42:09 Tracking Labor Revenue Allocation

43:36 Phone Performance KPI Focus

47:57 Standardizing Construction Variables

49:46 Appreciative Conversation W

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Today we're diving again into an eye-opening conversation with our special guest, Scott Irwin from Network Plumbing. After surviving a recent cyclone up north, Matt and Scotty discuss the relevant challenges and opportunities in the plumbing business. Scotty shares invaluable insights on building a business from the ground up, emphasizing the importance of self-worth, financial literacy, and investing in oneself and others. Throughout the episode, they touch on everything from the pitfalls of discounting services, to the significance of understanding your true value, and even the role of innovation and technology in the plumbing industry. Don't miss Scotty's thought-provoking stories and practical advice on designing the life you want by starting with the end goal in mind. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, this episode is packed with nuggets of wisdom that could help propel your business and personal growth. Tune in and get ready to take some notes!

Watch the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/ksnwJmVabZo


00:00 Avoid Discounts; Maintain Value

05:41 "Recognize Your Worth in Business"

08:41 Invest in Yourself to Succeed

11:01 Sydney Self-Worth Event Announcement

13:43 Unwritten Goals and Aspirations

18:54 Practical Goal-Setting and Milestones

22:55 Hardworking Father, 80s Banking Insights

24:24 "Invest or Stagnate"

29:26 Teaching Life Choices

30:39 "Customer Appreciation Gesture Summary"

33:56 "Conversations and Connections"

37:21 "The Camera That Changed Us"

40:36 Attend Sydney Service Event

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In this episode of The Site Shed podcast, we're thrilled to welcome Scotty Irwin, a seasoned entrepreneur and expert in business acquisitions and growth, as he shares his incredible journey in building the Network Plumbing empire. Scotty takes us through his humble beginnings, where survival was the driving force, to steering a multi-million-dollar enterprise today. He opens up about the key decisions and strategies behind successfully navigating challenges like the 2007/2008 financial crisis and offers valuable insights into the importance of cultivating a strong company culture, the impact of strategic education, and onboarding for team retention. Additionally, Scotty discusses how his approach has allowed Network Plumbing to thrive amidst industry shifts and market demands. Whether you're a seasoned business owner or just starting out, Scotty's experience offers a wealth of knowledge and inspiration. Join us as we delve into the story of a business pioneer and get ready for a masterclass in growth and resilience in the trade space.


Watch the video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/mLQJNjpR1v8


00:00 "Upcoming Service Titan Event"
03:17 Plumber's Journey and Mindset Insights
08:17 Survival Instincts in Business
09:42 "Optimize Existing Leads First"
15:22 "Showcasing Career Path Opportunities"
17:59 Scaling Business: When to Add HR?
21:37 Training Beyond the Basics
23:28 "Tidiness Reflects Personal Value"
25:44 Training Gaps in Business Acquisitions
29:52 Improving Air Comm Installation Practices
32:39 Sales Ethics Challenges
38:49 "Sid Sidcoaster: Listen and Learn"
39:51 "Business Insights with Scotty"

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• LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/scott-irwin

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