This Is TASTE

This Is TASTE

By Matt Rodbard & Aliza AbarbanelArtsFood
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  • 90: Mark Canha

    In this episode, we’re sitting down with Mark Canha, the biggest food personality in Major League Baseball. Mark is an itinerant diner who documents his eating and cooking on Instagram as @bigleaguefoodie. We asked him about his pregame eating rituals, as well as some of the restaurants in New York that he’s most excited to check out as a new player for the New York Mets. We also talked about some untapped markets for Italian stadium food served in plastic souvenir helmet bowls.

    Later in this episode, hosts Matt Rodbard and Anna Hezel catch up about the most exciting things they’ve cooked and eaten in the last few weeks.

    Additional Reading:

    • In Singapore, Lunar New Year is a Multicultural Feast [New York Times]
    • Skillet Greens with Runny Eggs, Peas, and Pancetta [New York Times]
    • NY Indonesian Food Bazaar [Facebook]
    • Smorgasburg LA
    • Danny Boy’s Famous Original 
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      33 min
    • 89: Daniela Galarza

      For the past year and a half, Daniela Galarza has written one of our favorite things on the internet: a four-day-a-week cooking column for the Washington Post food section, Eat Voraciously. In this episode, we hear about Daniela’s journey from pastry cook and private chef to holding down editorial jobs at LA Weekly, Eater, and the Post. We also talk about some of the great work she’s done as a writer for TASTE, particularly focusing on pastry and desserts. And she answers the burning questions of the day: What makes a great recipe, and what makes a great food newsletter? 

      Additional reading:

      • The Tart That Launched a Thousand Tarts [TASTE]
      • Spain’s Burnt Cheesecake Breaks All the Rules [TASTE]
      • Big Crisp Energy [TASTE]
      • How do you like to cook your least favorite veggies? We’ve got ideas, too. [WaPo]

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        32 min
      • 88: Gary Shteyngart

        Today on the show, we’re catching up with Gary Shteyngart, a New York Times best-selling novelist and food writer who has written memorable books including The Russian Debutante’s Handbook, Super Sad True Love Story, and his most recent work, the rollicking pandemic satire Our Country Friends. In this episode, we talk about some of Shteyngart’s world travels, both as a hired gun and for fun, as well as what he’s eating and drinking in his Upstate New York home. We also remember New York City restaurants from the 1990s and early 2000s, including fond memories of the long-lost Meatpacking District bistro Florent, which plays a role in his most recent novel.

        Check out Gary Shteyngart’s recent book Our Country Friends. 

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        36 min
      • 87: Fanny Gerson

        On today’s episode of the podcast, we’re talking to Fany Gerson, the pastry chef mastermind behind La Newyorkina, Dough, and, most recently, Fan-Fan Doughnuts in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn. In addition to making some of New York’s most legendary doughnuts, Fany has written extensively about the paletas, ice creams, and other sweets of Mexico, where she grew up. We talked about the secret ingredient that makes her yeasted doughnuts special, how the fan-fan (her signature eclair-like doughnut baton) came about, and some of the best, often-overlooked Mexican food in New York.

        Later on the show, hosts Anna Hezel and Matt Rodbard discuss the ever-present, ever-evolving world of fad diets.

        Additional Reading:

        • Mexican Desserts and the Magical Can [TASTE]
        • Inside Fany Gerson’s Brand-new Doughnut Shop [Grub Street]
        • The Best Advice After Trying Every Fad Diet? Just Eat. [TASTE]
        • When SnackWell’s Was the Flavor of Permissible Indulgence [TASTE]
        • The Summer of Halo Top [TASTE]


          Buy Fany’s cookbooks: My Sweet Mexico, Paletas, Mexican Ice Cream

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          37 min
        • 86: Hrishikesh Hirway

          Today on the show, we’re talking to Hrishikesh Hirway, the musician behind The One AM Radio, the podcaster behind The West Wing Weekly and Song Exploder, and the host of Netflix’s adaptation of Song Exploder. In addition to collaborating with Yo-Yo Ma and interviewing musicians like Michael Stipe and Alicia Keys, Hrishikesh is also the cohost, with Samin Nosrat, of Home Cooking, which has quickly become one of our favorite food podcasts during the pandemic. 

          We talked about the joys of savory oatmeal, lessons learned from hosting a call-in show about cooking, and a very special mango pie. We also got to hear about an exciting new EP that’s hot off the presses.

          Additional reading and listening:

          • Accept Cookies [Substack]
          • A Very American Mango Pie, Inspired by Indian Aunties [The New York Times]
          • Song Exploder, The West Wing Weekly, Home Cooking

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            26 min
          • 85: Cara Nicoletti

            Today on the show, we have a colorful conversation with Cara Nicoletti, a fourth-generation butcher, writer, and cofounder of the vegetable-centric sausage company Seemore Meats & Veggies. We’ve fallen hard for these sausages, which are made with 35 percent vegetables, and we wanted to have Cara on the podcast to talk about how she went from working at the legendary Meat Hook butcher shop in Brooklyn to disrupting the sausage game. We also talk about the many problems with the massive investment and growth of the plant-based meat megacompanies, and how TASTE readers can buy better at their local butcher shops.

            Also on the program, hosts Anna Hezel and Matt Rodbard discuss all things chicken soup: the many versions made around the world, and how the recipe is interpreted in some of our favorite recent cookbooks. Matt also remembers many a fine bowl of Detroit Lions’ loss chicken soup.

             Additional reading:

            • Can Chicken Soup Save Us? [TASTE]
            • Samgyetang: Korean Ginseng Chicken Soup [TASTE]
            • Cooking At Home by David Change and Priya Krishna
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              39 min
            • 84: Bart van Olphen

              On today’s episode, Anna sits down with longtime chef and sustainable seafood advocate Bart van Olphen. The Dutch chef has written many cookbooks for an international audience (including several on the topic of tinned fish), and he’s the founder of Sea Tales, a company that sells sustainable canned tuna, anchovies, and sardines. They talked about why tinned fish is having a moment, how to shop responsibly for seafood, and Bart’s newest book, Veggies & Fish.

              Later on the show, Anna talks to author and alternative medicine advocate Deepak Chopra about mindful holiday eating and why the self-care industrial complex might not be such a bad thing. Deepak has some thoughts about how to eat well (and thoughtfully), even in the midst of a hectic travel schedule or a deluge of holiday celebrations.

              Buy the books: 

              Veggies & Fish, by Bart van Olphen

              Total Meditation, by Deepak Chopra

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              35 min
            • 83: Edy Massih

              One morning this fall, Matt found himself in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, seated in the front yard of Edy’s Grocer, the remarkable deli and specialty food shop run by the amazing young entrepreneur Edy Massih, who joins him on the show today. Massih formerly worked as a caterer, and during the pandemic, he took over a storefront and began selling all sorts of delicious foods—all with a modern and exciting point of view. There’s a long list of mezze—Lebanese small plates like baba ganoush, rosy ricotta, and za’atar goat cheese—as well as harissa paste, jams, oils, and packaged spice rubs. It’s a delightful shop, cared for with the greatest eye for detail and deliciousness. We find out how the store began and how its ambitious owner is making things work during this challenging time to be running a food business.

               Additional reading:

              • Edy Massih Wants to Be 'the Middle Eastern Martha Stewart' [Grub Street]
              • The Dish: Chef Edy Massih on Lebanese roots, new shop [CBS This Morning]
              • He Rescued an NYC Deli So He Could Share Lebanese Food With the World [The Manual]

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                27 min
              • 82: Jean Kyoung Frazier

                Matt met author and television writer Jean Kyoung Frazier through Instagram during last year’s NBA playoffs. She is a Los Angeles Clippers fan, he’s a Brooklyn Nets fan, and they had a lot to talk about. But what most inspired the exchange, and eventually this episode, is Jean’s novel Pizza Girl, which is based partially in a suburban Los Angeles pizzeria. We speak with Jean about how she writes about food in her fiction, as well as not writing about food on Law & Order: Organized Crime. We also talk about her upbringing in Southern California—the food, the hoops, and how pizza topped with pickles plays as a critical plot point in her work.  

                Also on the show, hosts Anna Hezel and Matt Rodbard talk about some of the winter cooking projects and goals they will be undertaking during the colder months ahead. We go through a year of buying cookbooks and clipping recipes on the internet, but sometimes we run out of time to actually make them. Winter is a time to make things happen, and your cohosts have some thoughts about cannelloni, kimbap, khao soi, chocoflan, fresh tortillas, and pan pizza.

                Additional reading:

                • Writing Toward Feeling: An Interview with Jean Kyoung Frazier [The Rumpus]
                • Long Distance with Jean Kyoung Frazier [Literary Arts]


                  Buy the book: Pizza Girl

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                  36 min
                • 81: Tammie Teclemariam

                  If you’ve caught some of the exciting new writing coming from the relaunch of Gawker, you may have read some food writing by Tammie Teclemariam, who’s been taking down moka pots, making the case for buying a whole ham, and lauding the Black Russian as a far superior alternative to the espresso martini craze. Tammie’s also written for TASTE about the virtues of fried chicken livers, how Caraflex is the ultimate cabbage flex, and why mozzarella in carrozza is the fanciest iteration of a grilled cheese. We talked about some of the joys (and terrors) of whole-ham ownership, as well as a few unexpectedly cool ideas for holiday drinking.

                  After recording the episode, it was announced that Tammie will be New York Magazine’s first ever Diner-at-Large. You can follow along with her eating and writing in 2022 here.

                  Also on this episode, hosts Anna Hezel and Matt Rodbard dive into the topic of nonalcoholic drinks for celebratory occasions—all of the sodas, seltzers, and beers that are worth pulling out for a toast, including drinks from Kimino, Casamara Club, and Athletic Brewing. Finally, Matt recalls his grandma Gert’s stash of Canfield’s Diet Chocolate Fudge in Highland Park, Illinois.    

                  Additional reading:

                  • On the Acquisition and Maintenance of a Ham [Gawker]
                  • Moka Pots Make Shitty Coffee [Gawker]
                  • If You “Like” Espresso Martinis You’ll Love the Black Russian [Gawker]
                  • Have You Fried a Chicken Liver Lately? [TASTE]
                  • The Grilled Cheese Gets Regal [TASTE]
                  • The Year I Ate New York [New York Magazine]

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                    47 min

                  About This Is TASTE

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                  If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City.

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