Sarah and Beth talk with Simon Bazelon, one of the authors of Deciding to Win, a report focused on how Democrats can strengthen their electoral chances moving forward. This is a wonderful, pragmatic conversation about what that will take. Then, outside of politics, they discuss food for Christmas Day.

Topics Discussed

• Simon Bazelon on How Democrats Can Win
• Outside of Politics: Christmas Day Food

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