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  • Taking Time Away to Super Charge Your Business with Dr. Jeremy Sharp | WP48

    In this enlightening episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, host Whitney Owens engages in a thoughtful conversation with Jeremy Sharp, a consultant and podcast host who specializes in psychological testing and assessment. Jeremy brings a unique perspective to the table, sharing his experiences with hosting retreats aimed at professionals in the testing field. He calls these retreats the "anti-conference," a space for learning, networking, and personal growth.

    About Jeremy Sharp

    Jeremy is a licensed psychologist and owner of the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that was founded in 2009 and has grown to over 40+ clinicians and staff. These days, I specialize in the psychological and neuropsychological evaluation of kids and adolescents. As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, he provides private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices.

    The Importance of Routine and Eliminating Decision Fatigue

    Jeremy Sharp emphasizes the value of a structured daily routine in achieving work-life balance. He believes that a predictable schedule helps eliminate decision fatigue, allowing him to focus his mental energy on significant business ideas and challenges. "I'm trying to eliminate decision fatigue because I want to save all of my mental energy for the work at hand," Jeremy states.

    The Role of Retreats in Professional and Personal Growth

    Retreats serve as a catalyst for inspiration and change, according to both Whitney and Jeremy. These events offer a break from the daily grind and provide an opportunity for professionals to work "on the business instead of in the business." Jeremy notes that retreats have been instrumental in inspiring changes in his practice. "It's been on retreats where I have been the most inspired and made changes in my practice," Whitney adds.

    Balancing Work Retreats and Family Life

    The discussion delves into the challenges of balancing work-related retreats with family commitments. Jeremy shares his experience of feeling guilty when leaving his family but acknowledges that these retreats are a necessity for both personal and professional growth. He and his wife have an understanding that they will both take time away from home for professional development. "We both understand each year, like, we're both going to be gone for four or five days at a time, two or three times a year," Jeremy explains.

    Action Steps
    • Evaluate your daily routine to eliminate decision fatigue.

    • Consider incorporating retreats into your professional development plan.

    • Have an open discussion with your family about the importance of these retreats and find a balance that works for everyone.

    Summary

    This episode offers invaluable insights into the power of retreats and structured routines in achieving professional success and personal well-being. Whether you're a seasoned therapist or a business owner looking to integrate faith and psychology into your practice, this episode provides practical tips and action steps to help you move forward. Don't miss out on this enriching conversation that could be the catalyst for your next big business idea or personal transformation.

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    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    • The Testing Psychologist

    • The Testing Psychologist on Facebook

    • Wise Practice Summit

    • Whitney Ownes on Instagram

    • Check the podcasts on the PsychCraft Network: PsychCraftnetwork.com

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    34 min
  • Should I Hire Only Christian Therapists at my Group Practice - Live Consulting with Christie Orosz | WP 49
    Integrating Faith and Practice in Counseling

    In this enlightening episode of the "Wise Practice Podcast," host Whitney Owens engages in a profound conversation with Christie Orosz, LPCC-S, about the significance of integrating faith into counseling practices. Christie, a passionate advocate for the marriage relationship, emphasizes the importance of alignment in values, especially when it comes to the sanctity of marriage. She believes that the bond between two individuals is foundational for personal health, child-rearing, and professional life.

    The Challenge of Defining a Christian Therapist

    Christie raises a thought-provoking question: What defines a Christian therapist? While many individuals identify as Christian, alignment in faith-based values can vary significantly. Christie seeks therapists who genuinely pursue an active relationship with God. However, she acknowledges the diversity in how faith is lived out and practiced. The challenge lies in discerning genuine passion for faith from mere identification.

    The Balance of Skill and Faith

    Drawing a parallel with medical professions, Christie reflects on the dilemma of choosing between a skilled therapist and one who aligns with Christian values. She asks, "Would one choose a Christian cardiologist over a highly skilled and experienced one?" The essence is to strike a balance, learning from skilled therapists, irrespective of their faith, while ensuring respect for faith-based practitioners.

    Tips for Faith-Based Hiring
    • Clarity in Mission: Understand the core values and mission of your practice. This will guide your hiring decisions.

    • Open Conversations: Engage in open dialogues during interviews. Discuss faith, but also focus on skills, experience, and therapeutic approaches.

    • Respect Diversity: Recognize that faith is diverse. What's essential is a genuine relationship with God and a passion for integrating faith into therapy.

    In Conclusion

    The integration of faith and practice in counseling is a journey, one that requires introspection, clarity, and respect for diversity. As Whitney aptly puts it, every business decision is an experiment, and it's crucial to evolve and adapt based on experiences. This episode serves as a testament to the importance of aligning faith and professional values, ensuring that therapy remains a holistic process, addressing both the spiritual and emotional needs of clients.

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    Links and Resources
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    • Married Life Counseling on Facebook

    • Married Life Counseling on LinkedIn

    • Married Like Counseling on Instagram

    • Check the podcasts on the PsychCraft Network: PsychCraftnetwork.com

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    34 min
  • The Dos and Don'ts of Talking about Cash with Clients with Mor Goldberger | WP47

    In this enriching episode of the "Wise Practice Podcast", host Whitney Owens engages in a profound conversation with Mor Goldberger, an associate MFT working towards her license and an MBA graduate based in Berkeley, California. As a new mom and a budding therapist, Mor shares her insights and experiences, making this episode a treasure trove of knowledge for therapists navigating the intricacies of discussing finances with clients.

    Setting Clear Financial Boundaries

    Mor emphasizes the importance of therapists establishing clear financial boundaries before engaging with clients. She suggests having a well-defined position on aspects such as sliding scales and session costs, documented preferably on paper. This preparation not only instills confidence in therapists but also prevents them from getting caught in uncomfortable situations where they might feel compelled to offer discounts impulsively. Mor shares, "It's really important to have a clear ideally... down on paper, a couple of bullets on what they are and aren't willing to accept."

    Navigating the Tricky Terrain of Money Conversations

    The episode delves deep into the nuances of money conversations, with Mor offering invaluable advice on maintaining a steady pace and confidence during such discussions. She highlights the significance of not over-explaining the rationale behind the fees, as it might signal a lack of confidence. Mor advises, "They don't need to know that and it actually signals that you're not confident about your rate."

    Bridging the Gap between Compassion and Financial Stability

    Mor and Whitney discuss the delicate balance therapists need to maintain between being compassionate and sustaining a financially stable practice. They touch upon the societal expectations that sometimes undervalue the financial needs of therapists. Drawing parallels with other professions, they encourage therapists to embrace the financial aspects of their practice without guilt.

    Tips for a Smooth Transition to a Cash Pay Model

    Transitioning from an insurance-based model to a cash pay model can be challenging. Mor introduces the audience to Mentaia, a platform that facilitates this transition by helping clients utilize their out-of-network benefits, potentially covering up to 80% of their session costs. This segment is packed with insights that can ease the transition for therapists contemplating this shift.

    A Beacon of Support and Inspiration

    In conclusion, this episode stands as a beacon of support and inspiration for therapists, especially those integrating faith and psychology into their practice. Whitney and Mor, through their candid conversation, bring to the fore the unspoken challenges therapists face and offer solutions that are both practical and empowering. As Whitney mentions, this episode is a "great resource for helping me grow my private practice."

    5 Do's and Don'ts for therapists on collecting cash in their private pay practice
    • Do Determine Your Position in Advance: Before engaging with clients, have a clear stance on your fee structure, including aspects like sliding scales and session costs. Document these details to avoid being caught off guard during financial discussions with clients.

    • Don't Over-Explain Your Fees: When discussing your fees with clients, avoid going into the detailed rationale behind your pricing. Over-explaining can signal a lack of confidence in your rates. As Mor suggests, state your rate clearly and confidently without feeling the need to justify it.

    • Do Maintain a Steady Pace During Money Conversations: During financial discussions, maintain a calm and steady pace to convey confidence. Avoid speaking too quickly as it might signal nervousness or lack of confidence.

    • Don't Rush Clients to a Decision: Allow clients the time to think about the investment they are about to make in therapy. Understand that therapy is a significant investment and it's okay for clients to take time to consider it.

    • Do Utilize Tools like Mentaya for Insurance Benefits: Introduce clients to platforms and tools that can help them utilize their out-of-network benefits, potentially covering a significant portion of their session costs, even if you are operating on a cash-pay model.

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    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    • Wise Practice Summit

    • Whitney Ownes on Instagram

    • Check the podcasts on the PsychCraft Network: PsychCraftnetwork.com

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    31 min
  • How to Market to BIPOC Clients with Diana Rice | WP46
    WP 46 | How to Market to BIPOC Clients with Diana Rice

    Hello lovely listeners. In today's enriching episode our brilliant host, Whitney Owens, engages in a profound conversation with the vibrant and experienced Diana Rice, a therapist with a diverse background and a deep understanding of the BIPOC community. Embark on a journey through their dialogue, filled with stories, wisdom, and warmth that seeks to touch hearts and open minds. Diana is a certified integrative mental health professional who prides herself in providing a "safe and inclusive space where clients can find healing and empowerment." Based in South Florida, she speaks warmly of her surroundings, noting the diverse population and the unique challenges and beauties that come with it.

    In this episode, Whitney and Diana paint a vivid tapestry of experiences that explores the life journey of a BIPOC therapist, touching upon topics like personal resilience, fostering diversity in practice, and the intricate dance between cognitive behavioral therapy and cross-cultural sensitivities.

    Embracing Diversity with Grace

    Both Diana and Whitney echo the sentiment that as therapists, there is a need to cater to the diverse clientele, including the BIPOC community. They urge fellow therapists to approach this with a willingness to learn, grow, and foster inclusivity in their practices, highlighting the opportunities for healing and empowerment that lie within.

    Diana passionately advocates for fostering diversity and inclusivity within the therapy space. She encourages therapists to actively seek out diverse groups and to offer their guidance and mentorship to aspiring counselors from various backgrounds. "Go to the black colleges. And see who's a mental health counselor and then become that qualified supervisor for them", she advises. Diana emphasizes the importance of respecting and acknowledging the wealth of knowledge and cultural awareness these new counselors bring to the table, fostering a space of understanding and mutual respect.

    Creating a Safe Haven for Diverse Faith Backgrounds

    Further into their discussion, Diana touches upon the interweaving of diverse faith backgrounds into therapy practice. She shares her approach to counseling clients from various religious backgrounds, emphasizing her role as a listener and guide, rather than imposing her beliefs onto others. "You're hiring me to help you because you're in a crisis. So this is not about, you know, I can help you with the clinical skills that I have. Yeah. Right. I am a believer in Jesus Christ. That is my guide post. That is my stability", she notes, underlining her commitment to providing a space where clients can feel accepted and understood, irrespective of their faith backgrounds.

    Marketing to BIPOC Clients with Understanding and Inclusivity

    Defining 'BIPOC': Diana and Whitney delve into the essence of the term 'BIPOC', which encapsulates Black, Indigenous People of Color. The discussion gradually steers towards fostering inclusivity and understanding within the community, urging for a mature and respectful dialogue.

    Building Inclusivity in Practice: Diana passionately promotes diversity and inclusivity within the therapy space, encouraging therapists to mentor aspiring counselors from diverse backgrounds. She advises, "Go to the black colleges. And see who's a mental health counselor and then become that qualified supervisor for them".

    Interweaving Faith: Diana discusses how she respects and incorporates diverse faith backgrounds into her therapy practices, underlining her role as a listener and guide.

    Cultural Understanding for Therapists:

    Diana voices her concerns about the DSM not taking into account the spiritual and cultural aspects of various communities. She highlights the importance of understanding and respecting different cultures, urging professionals to be critical thinkers who are willing to question existing norms: "I had question after question after question, and one professor loved that I was spry and feisty like that. Questioning things."

    Diana opened up about her initial experiences in the field around 2004, where she worked in a school with a significant number of therapists and psychiatric nurses. During this time, she observed a disconnect between the psychiatric system and the unique experiences and perspectives of people from different backgrounds, particularly those from the Caribbean. She stresses the importance of understanding where others are coming from, saying, "I just need to listen. To see where they're coming from..."

    Tips when working with the BIPOC Community:
    • Understand Before Labeling: Diana advocates for looking beyond diagnoses, urging therapists to first understand a client's background and personal experiences.

    • Building Community Relations: Engage with the community, seeking to genuinely understand their experiences through active and empathetic listening.

    • Encourage Critical Thinking: Encourage a spirit of questioning and critical thinking, especially regarding existing norms and systems within the psychiatric field.

    • Promote Cultural Understanding: Develop a deeper understanding and respect for the varied cultural and spiritual perspectives that clients bring into the therapy space.

    Conclusion:

    In this heartwarming and insightful episode, Whitney and Diana have woven a rich tapestry of experiences, offering listeners a glimpse into the world of a BIPOC therapist navigating the complex landscapes of identity, diversity, and inclusivity in their practice. Through personal anecdotes and wise insights, this conversation invites listeners to rethink and reshape their perspectives on inclusivity and understanding.

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    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    • Through The Valley Therapy

    • Through the Valley on Social Media: @throughthevalleytherapy

    • Diana S Rice Web page

    • Wise Practice Summit

    • Whitney Ownes on Instagram

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    54 min
  • Onboarding New Therapists to your Practice with Nathan Hawkins and Aaron Potratz | WP45
    WP 45 | Onboarding New Therapists to Your Group Practice: Tips and Strategies

    Whether you're a seasoned practice owner with a growing team of therapists or a newcomer to the world of private practice, onboarding new therapists is a crucial process that sets the stage for success. In this blog post, we'll explore valuable insights shared by Nathan Hawkins and Aaron Potratz from their experience in group practice and their podcast, "Shrink Think," on the Wise Practice Podcast.

    About Aaron

    Aaron is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Clinical Supervisor in Oregon, the owner of Discover Counseling, and the co-owner of Life Discovery Counseling Services.

    He maintains his own client caseload while managing his group practices and supervising his counseling staff. Aaron is also a private practice consultant and co-hosts the Shrink Think Podcast with Nathan Hawkins.

    About Nathan

    Nathan is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Clinical Supervisor in Oregon. He's the owner of Life Encounter Counseling and co-owner of Life Discovery Counseling Services - a multi-site group practice. Nathan maintains his own client caseload while managing and supervising his counseling staff, and still finds time to teach on occasion as an adjunct professor at Multnomah University in Portland, Oregon.

    Why Onboarding Matters

    Onboarding therapists isn't just about paperwork and administrative tasks. It's an opportunity to ensure a smooth transition for new therapists and to align them with your practice's values and culture. As Nathan and Aaron highlight, therapists often come from various backgrounds, including community mental health or agency settings, and may be unfamiliar with the intricacies of private practice.

    Key Considerations During Onboarding
    • Differentiating Between Employee and Contractor Models: Clarify the distinctions between employee (W-2) and contractor (1099) models. This includes understanding how taxes, benefits, and responsibilities differ for each category. Communicate this information clearly to new therapists to set expectations from the start.

    • Understanding the Private Practice Landscape: New therapists may be accustomed to the environment of agency work or community mental health. Introduce them to the unique aspects of private practice, including variations in client populations, paperwork requirements, and billing procedures.

    • Navigating Cash Pay and Insurance-Based Models: Explain the differences between cash pay and insurance-based practices. Ensure that therapists are well-informed about client payments, copays, insurance deductibles, and how to handle financial discussions professionally.

    • Client-Centered Onboarding: Equip therapists with essential skills to provide outstanding customer service to clients. This includes screening potential clients, scheduling, handling first sessions, effective communication, and maintaining appropriate documentation.

    • Imposter Syndrome and Provisional Licensure: Address challenges that provisionally licensed therapists might face, such as imposter syndrome and navigating the journey to full licensure. Encourage open conversations and provide support as they build their careers.

    • Building a Strong Practice Community: Emphasize the importance of therapists aligning with the practice's values and brand. This involves educating them on the practice's mission, policies, and expectations for maintaining a positive working environment.

    • Departure and Transition: Even when therapists leave the practice, the onboarding process continues. Inform therapists about what to expect when leaving the practice and how to handle transitions professionally, including clients, documentation, and ethical considerations.

    Streamlining the Onboarding Process

    Nathan and Aaron's podcast, "Shrink Think," offers an online platform called "Shrink Think Product" that provides digital resources for effective therapist onboarding. This platform offers video modules covering the essential topics and challenges discussed above. By utilizing these resources, practice owners can save time, ensure consistent training, and foster a knowledgeable team of therapists.

    Conclusion

    Onboarding new therapists to your group practice is an opportunity to set clear expectations, foster a positive work environment, and equip therapists with the knowledge they need to thrive. By addressing key considerations and leveraging resources like the "Shrink Think Product," practice owners can streamline the onboarding process and create a foundation for successful and sustainable growth.

    Remember, each therapist brings a unique perspective and set of experiences, making open communication and ongoing support essential components of the onboarding journey.

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    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    • Wise Practice Summit

    • Whitney Ownes on Instagram

    • Shrink Think on Instagram: @shrink.think

    • Shrink Think on Facebook: @shrinkthink

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    35 min
  • Navigating the Storms of Private Practice | WP44
    Introduction

    In this episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, your host, Whitney Owens, takes the mic for a solo show. With honesty and a deep connection to faith, Whitney shares her personal journey of facing challenges and finding strength amidst the storms of private practice. She reflects on the power of community, the significance of embracing dark moments, and the transformation that emerges on the other side. As a counselor and leader, she delves into the idea that difficulties often precede breakthroughs and that acknowledging our weaknesses can lead to profound growth.

    Embracing the Darkness

    Whitney highlights the notion that difficult seasons and challenges often precede times of growth and transformation. She emphasizes the importance of leaning into these dark moments and finding solace in the midst of them. Drawing inspiration from her own experiences, she reminds listeners that even in times of struggle, God's presence and work can be felt, even if it's not immediately apparent. "God moves even when we are struggling," she says, highlighting the potential for strength and transformation that can arise from challenging times.

    Finding Identity and Purpose

    Reflecting on her own path and challenges, Whitney underlines the significance of knowing one's identity in Christ. She shares a personal story of a healing prayer experience, demonstrating how God uses our vulnerabilities and weaknesses to manifest His work. Whitney discusses how adversity can lead to discovering one's true calling and purpose, and how hardships can shape us into better leaders and therapists. "We move out of the place of knowing God's heart for us," she asserts, emphasizing that embracing one's identity in Christ can fuel significant growth and impact.

    The Summit and Moving Forward

    Whitney discusses the upcoming summit and its potential to be a space where the Holy Spirit is active in a business conference setting. She encourages listeners to embrace their faith and lean into their struggles, trusting that God is at work, even in the face of challenges. With a mix of vulnerability and enthusiasm, she shares her own experience of navigating dark seasons and emphasizes the importance of moving forward with confidence. "Keep pressing forward," she advises, reminding her audience that while difficulties may arise, God's love and guidance are ever-present.

    Tips for Survival in Navigating Private Practice Storms:
    • Embrace Dark Moments: Instead of avoiding difficult times, acknowledge and embrace them as opportunities for growth and transformation.

    • Seek Community: Reach out to a supportive community of peers, mentors, or fellow therapists who can provide encouragement and perspective during challenging seasons.

    • Know Your Identity: Ground yourself in your identity in Christ. Remember that you are beloved and chosen, even when facing uncertainty and adversity.

    • Find Strength in Weakness: Understand that God's work can shine through your vulnerabilities and weaknesses, allowing you to contribute and impact others in unique ways.

    • Hold onto Hope: Even in the midst of pain and suffering, maintain hope that there is something better on the other side of the storm. Trust in God's plans for you.

    • Lean into Faith: Embrace your faith as a source of strength, allowing it to guide you through difficult times and provide clarity when facing challenges.

    • Press Forward: Persevere through the hardships, knowing that God's presence is with you. Keep moving forward with determination and confidence.

    • Claim Transformation: Believe that adversity can lead to significant personal and professional growth. Accept challenges as opportunities to become a better leader and therapist.

    • Prioritize Self-Care: In the midst of challenging seasons, make self-care a priority. Take time for rest, reflection, and activities that bring you joy and renewal.

    • Attend the Summit: Consider participating in events like the Wise Practice Summit, where you can connect with like-minded individuals, share experiences, and experience the transformative power of faith in your practice.

    • Stay Open to God's Direction: Trust that God's guidance is leading you, even in the midst of uncertainty. Be open to the Holy Spirit's direction and let it guide your decisions and actions.

    • Reflect on Past Breakthroughs: Remind yourself of past instances when difficulties were followed by significant breakthroughs. Use these memories as motivation to keep moving forward during tough times.

    • Remember Your Calling: Reconnect with your calling as a therapist and leader. Remind yourself of the impact you can have on your clients and your community, even during challenging periods.

    • Practice Gratitude: Cultivate an attitude of gratitude, focusing on the blessings and positives in your life. Gratitude can provide a fresh perspective and boost your resilience.

    • Encourage Others: Extend your strength and wisdom to others who might be going through their own storms. Support and uplift fellow therapists, reminding them of their value and purpose.

    • Stay Rooted in Faith: Continue to lean into your faith, allowing it to guide your decisions, actions, and interactions with clients. Trust in God's plan, even when it's not immediately clear.

    Summary

    In this heartfelt episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, Whitney Owens shares her personal journey through difficult seasons and the profound transformations that can result from embracing challenges. With an emphasis on faith, community, and growth, Whitney's insights serve as a reminder that even in our darkest moments, God's work is at play, guiding us toward greater purpose and impact. As listeners, we are encouraged to lean into our identities in Christ, hold onto hope during tough times, and move forward with confidence, knowing that breakthroughs often follow the storms.

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    21 min
  • You Deserve an Award with Leo DeBroeck | WP43
    Introduction

    Welcome back to the Wise Practice Podcast! In this episode, host Whitney Owens is joined by Leo DeBroeck, the founder of the Counselor's Choice Award. They discuss how this award recognizes counseling products, therapy tools, and ethical private practices. They also delve into the world of continuing education for therapists and counselors. Leo's unique journey from engineering to child mental health specialist adds depth to the conversation.

    Leo's Background and Inspiration: Leo grew up in Washington State, witnessing the impact of economic fluctuations on mental health within the community. His desire to help people led him to the mental health field, where he has over 10 years of experience. He emphasizes the importance of faith in his work and mission, which eventually culminated in the creation of the Counselor's Choice Award.

    The Birth of Counselor's Choice Award

    Leo shares the origin story of the Counselor's Choice Award. It began with the need for children's therapy books that address specific issues. Leo's commitment to offering therapists and counselors reliable resources led to the creation of this platform. Counselor's Choice Award reviews counseling products, therapy tools, and even private practices. The aim is to ensure that therapists have access to quality resources that can genuinely benefit their clients.

    Supporting Ethical Private Practices: Leo discusses how Counselor's Choice Award extends its support to ethical private practices. Recognizing that many therapists struggle with the business aspect of their practices, Leo and his team help therapists distinguish themselves by assessing factors such as specialties, policies, and clinical resources. By doing so, therapists can attract clients more effectively and uphold ethical standards.

    Bridging the Continuing Education Gap

    In the conversation, the topic shifts to continuing education for therapists. Leo acknowledges the prevalence of subpar courses and emphasizes the importance of quality education. He shares his own experience of teaching CE courses and unveils the Counselor's Choice Award's role in providing accredited courses. The platform enables therapists to offer engaging and informative CE courses without the hassle of marketing and logistics.

    Taking the First Steps

    Whitney and Leo discuss how therapists can get involved with Counselor's Choice Award and its offerings. Whether it's applying for the award, providing quality CE courses, or accessing numerous resources, therapists can take advantage of these opportunities to enhance their practices.

    Key Takeaways:
    • Quality Over Quantity: Counselor's Choice Award focuses on recognizing and promoting quality counseling products, therapy tools, and ethical private practices to better serve clients.

    • Continuing Education Reimagined: The platform offers therapists the chance to provide accredited CE courses that stand out for their content and educational value.

    • Ethics and Expertise: Private practices can benefit from Counselor's Choice Award by demonstrating ethical standards and showcasing their expertise in specific areas of counseling.

    Action Steps:
    • Apply for Counselor's Choice Award: If you have a counseling product, therapy tool, or run an ethical private practice, consider applying for the Counselor's Choice Award to gain recognition and distinction.

    • Explore Continuing Education Opportunities: If you're a therapist looking to provide CE courses, collaborate with Counselor's Choice Award to offer valuable education to your peers while earning passive income.

    • Prioritize Quality: In all aspects of your counseling practice, prioritize quality over quantity, from resources and tools to ethical business practices.

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    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    • Counselor's Choice Award

    • Wise Practice Summit

    • Whitney Ownes on Instagram

    • Leo DeBroeck on Amazon

    Conclusion

    Join Whitney Owens and Leo DeBroeck on the Wise Practice Podcast as they discuss Counselor's Choice Award, ethical private practices, and the future of continuing education for therapists. This episode offers valuable insights and opportunities for therapists to enhance their practices and provide quality care to their clients.

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    37 min
  • Growing Your Practice in an Unexpected Way with Stephanie Korpal and Christy Pennison | WP42

    Greetings, dear listeners of The Wise Practice Podcast! Welcome back to another captivating episode where we delve deep into the realm of expanding your practice in a manner that may catch you off guard. I am your host, Whitney Owens, and today we are joined by two extraordinary guests - Stephanie Korpal and Christy Pennison. Prepare yourself to uncover the untapped potential of collaboration as we embark on this journey through their shared wisdom.

    About Our Special Guests

    Stephanie Korpal and Christy Pennison are both group practice owners with multiple locations. Both women are passionate about their group practices, teams, and communities they serve--Stephanie in St. Louis and Chicago, Christy in central Louisiana (Alexandria and Natchichoes to be exact). That passion also extends to fellow group practice owners, a role they both know takes so much! Together, they have founded and launched a unique, special place for group practice bosses to connect, collaborate, and crush it. Their business, The Practice Collab, is designed to help practice owners work less, make more, and live most.

    The Dynamic Duo: Cultivating Relationships and Thriving Together

    Stephanie and Christy kickstart the conversation with a profound insight: "As Christie mentioned, one without the other will not lead you to where you can truly go." It's all about combining the enchantment of mentorships and collaborations. They emphasize the importance of nurturing both types of relationships in order to achieve a harmonious and successful practice. They underscore that while this journey is incredibly rewarding, it requires time, commitment, and a willingness to learn from our missteps.

    Stephanie wisely acknowledges, "It takes a toll on you, and it takes a couple of years to reach that point...to discover more about yourself and how to overcome self-imposed obstacles." The key takeaway here? You don't have to navigate this path alone. Collaboration is the secret ingredient that transforms isolation into connection, and blunders into invaluable lessons.

    ROI on Collaboration: Saving Time, Energy, and Resources

    The duo delves into the ROI (Return on Investment) of collaboration, shedding light on how it can revolutionize your practice. Christy explains, "One aspect she's referring to is simply the return for your mental energy and emotional well-being." Collaborators become an invaluable support system that empowers you to navigate challenges with enhanced efficiency.

    Christy beautifully articulates the value of collaboration: "It saves you time; it saves you money...the sharing of resources...can prove immensely cost-effective." Both Stephanie and Christy emphasize the importance of leveraging the experiences and knowledge of others, enabling you to accelerate your growth.

    Combating Solitude and Overwhelming Decision-Making

    As the conversation unfolds, they uncover yet another hidden gem of collaboration: combating loneliness. Christy shares, "Loneliness is a genuine experience because even within collaboration, one can still feel lonely. However, I do believe that collaboration helps alleviate that feeling of isolation." Stephanie adds an intriguing perspective: "Another aspect I appreciate about conversing with fellow practice owners is that they are the only ones who truly comprehend the nature of your profession." They emphasize that connecting with fellow practice owners provides a unique space for validation and understanding.

    Taking the First Step: Discovering Your Tribe

    Wondering how to dive into collaboration? Stephanie and Christy reassure us that taking the first step is paramount. Christy emphasizes, "You simply have to initiate it...most practice owners are quite open to engaging in conversations." They suggest reaching out through local community groups, social media platforms, or even joining existing communities. Stephanie eloquently summarizes it by stating,"You can never have too many friends who are also group practice owners." The power of connection and shared experiences can transform your journey from a solitary struggle into a collaborative adventure.

    Investing in Yourself: The Path to Growth and Fulfillment

    Transitioning into the realm of investment, Christy opens up about her personal journey:"I have invested an amount equivalent to purchasing a new vehicle in consulting and coaching...this investment has enabled me to learn how to grow in a sustainable manner." Both Stephanie and Christy echo the sentiment that investing in oneself yields immense rewards, leading to a more enriched and fulfilling life.

    Unveiling The Practice Collab and Beyond

    The conversation concludes with an exhilarating announcement - the birth of "The Practice Collab." Stephanie and Christy share their passion for creating spaces where collaboration, intentional work, and community thrive. Through virtual coworking weekends, in-person collaborations, and ongoing support, they are crafting a unique experience that assists you in navigating overwhelm and achieving your goals.

    And, let us not forget to explore Christy's podcast, "Inspiring Possible," where you will discover tales of individuals who transformed their dreams into reality.

    Action Steps: Your Path to Thriving Collaboration

    Feeling inspired and ready to take action? Here are a few steps to get started:

    • Reach Out: Don't hesitate to initiate conversations with fellow practice owners and therapists in your community.

    • Invest in Yourself: Consider consulting, coaching, or collaborative experiences as an investment in your growth and well-being.

    • Create Connection: Whether through existing communities or new ventures, seek out spaces that foster collaboration and intentional work.

    • Mark Your Calendar: Stay informed about upcoming events, like the Wise Practice Summit, where you can learn from experts like Stephanie and further your practice journey.

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    Links and Resources
    • The Practice Colab

    • The Practice Colab on Facebook

    • Podcast Inspire Possible

    • Subscribe to the Practice Colab Newsletter

    • Wise Practice Summit

    • Whitney Ownes on Instagram

    Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio

    43 min
  • Finding the Best Fit Therapist for Your Practice with Mike Michalowicz | WP41
    Introduction

    Welcome back to The Wise Practice Podcast! In this episode, we have the pleasure of chatting with entrepreneur and author Mike Michalowicz about finding the best-fit therapist for your practice. Mike is the brilliant mind behind several multimillion-dollar companies and the author of popular business books like Profit First and Clockwork.

    Mike Michalowicz (mi-CAL-oh-witz) is the entrepreneur behind three multimillion-dollar companies and is the author of several business books, including Profit First, Clockwork, The Pumpkin Plan and his newest book, All In. Mike is a former small business columnist for The Wall Street Journal and business makeover expert for MSNBC. He regularly travels the globe as an entrepreneurial advocate.

    Discovering the Money Bunnies

    Did you know that Mike Michalowicz also wrote a children's book? Yes, it's true! Mike explained that he created "The Money Bunnies" to teach kids the concept of budgeting in a fun and straightforward way. The goal was to help the next generation learn about money management early on. It's an idea that resonates with many readers, making it a hit with kids and parents alike.

    The Importance of Fit for Therapists

    In his newest book, "All In," Mike explores the critical topic of finding the right fit for therapists in a group practice. He shares a powerful model called FASO, which stands for Fit, Ability, Safety, and Ownership. Fit, he explains, is about recognizing that everyone is extraordinary, but not everyone is the right fit for your practice. It's essential to match talent to tasks instead of fixating on titles.

    Run Therapy Workshops to Find New Employees

    Mike mentions that running educational workshops can be beneficial for both the participants and the company's hiring process. When a company hosts workshops, it allows potential candidates to interact with the company's team and get hands-on experience with the work they would be doing if hired. This practical experience helps the candidates get a better understanding of the company's culture, work environment, and expectations.

    On the other hand, the company's hiring team can observe the candidates during the workshop and assess their skills, problem-solving abilities, and how well they collaborate with others. This direct observation provides valuable insights into the candidates' potential and whether they align with the company's values and requirements.

    By running educational workshops, the company can go beyond just looking at resumes and conducting interviews. They can effectively evaluate the candidates in action and make more informed decisions about whether they are the right fit for the organization. This approach increases the chances of hiring people who not only have the necessary qualifications but also possess the right attitude and aptitude to contribute positively to the company's success.

    Finding the Right Fit for Your Therapy Office

    Mike Michalowicz emphasizes the importance of finding the best-fit therapist for your practice and shares a four-step model called F.A.S.O.:

    • Fit: He mentions that not everyone is an "A player" for your business, and it's essential to be clear on the roles and tasks needed for the therapist. Rather than focusing on titles, he recommends identifying specific tasks and then matching the talent to those tasks.

    • Ability: He discusses the importance of exploring the potential in candidates and the value of looking beyond just experiential ability to include innate abilities and potential in determining the right fit.

    • Safety: Safety is crucial for employees to feel free to express themselves fully and give their best performance. Employers should create an environment where employees can be their natural selves and feel safe to do so.

    • Ownership: Mike stresses the significance of giving employees psychological ownership, where they feel something is theirs, and they have control over its outcome, direction, and personalization. This sense of ownership empowers employees to perform at a higher level.

    Fostering Psychological Ownership

    When it comes to creating a thriving team, fostering psychological ownership is key. It's not about giving legal ownership but empowering employees to take control and personalize their responsibilities. Mike shares the story of Joel, an employee who transformed from a one-star performer to a standout by providing him with increasing levels of ownership and responsibility. Creating a sense of ownership in your team can lead to unprecedented loyalty and productivity.

    Empowering the Backbone of the Economy

    As a parting thought, Mike highlights the significance of small businesses in the global economy. Every major corporation started as a small business at some point. Small businesses are the backbone of the economy, and their success is vital to our collective prosperity. So, as a therapist and small business owner, you have a responsibility to thrive, as your success contributes to the well-being of us all.

    Conclusion

    Finding the best-fit therapist for your practice is a significant challenge, but with the FASO model, you can simplify the process and create a thriving team. Use simulations to assess candidates' abilities and foster psychological ownership to empower your employees. Remember, as a small business owner, you play a crucial role in the economy. Let's all be extraordinary and make a difference together!

    Action Steps
    • Consider running educational workshops to recruit therapists, allowing you to observe their interests and fit for your practice.

    • Use simulations or scenarios to assess candidates' abilities, especially in areas that are challenging to observe directly.

    • Remember not everyone is a fit for your practice.

    • Foster psychological ownership among your team by giving them control, direction, and personalization of their responsibilities.

    • Remember that small businesses are the backbone of the economy, and your success contributes to the greater well-being of society. So be extraordinary!

    Show Sponsor

    • Creating Websites that Turn Visitors into Clients - Webinar with Daniel Fava Thursday, August 17th, 2:00 PM 3:00 PM
    Links and Resources
    • Profit First For Therapists Episode #26

    • Clockwork Book

    • Profit First for Therapists Book

    • Preorder Mike's New Book - All In on Amazon

    • Wise Practice Summit Information

    • Mike's Web Page

    • Mike on Facebook

    • Mike on Instagram

    • Mike on YouTube

    • Mike On Linkedin

    Podcast Production and Show Notes by James Marland at Course Creation Studio

    34 min
  • 3 Mistakes Made When Hiring a VA with James Marland, MBA

    Welcome back to another exciting episode of The Wise Practice Podcast In this episode, we are delving into the world of virtual assistants and the common mistakes to avoid when hiring them. We have a special guest today, James Marland, who brings over 18 years of experience in the mental health industry and shares his valuable insights on hiring and managing virtual assistants.

    Mistake Therapists Make #1: Hireing A Virtual Assistants Without Mental Health Experience

    Our first mistake to avoid is hiring virtual assistants without mental health experience. James shares his own experience of making this error in his first hire. "Working with people who are angry, sad, or dealing with various mental health conditions requires a unique mix of skills. Hiring someone with mental health experience is key to their success in your office." James learned this lesson when he hired someone without mental health background for a scheduling role, assuming he could train her, but she struggled to handle client-facing duties. He emphasizes the importance of hiring individuals with mental health experience, as they can better connect with clients and handle sensitive situations. "You gotta hire somebody with some mental health experience... they have similar experience. There's just something about working... in a mental health office already or having some mental health experience..."

    James emphasizes that candidates who have undergone therapy themselves don't necessarily possess the required experience. Hiring individuals with prior work in a mental health office or related fields ensures they can handle the challenges of the job.

    Mistake Therapists Make #2: Hiring a Virtual Assistant that is not tech-savvy

    The second mistake to avoid is hiring virtual assistants who lack tech-savviness. "Virtual assistants need to be tech-savvy as they work independently on computers, handling VoIP phone systems, Zoom, EHRs, and more. Their ability to troubleshoot tech issues efficiently is crucial." Working remotely requires proficiency in various digital tools and systems. James recommends conducting behavior interview questions to assess their tech skills. Virtual assistants who are not tech-savvy can drain your time and resources, causing unnecessary delays and mistakes. "An assistant who is not tech-savvy is gonna burn you out. They're gonna burn up your hours, they're gonna burn up your time, they're gonna ask you questions... that could have been solved in a minute or two."

    Mistake Therapists Make #3: Hiring a Virtual Assistant based on a Gut Feeling

    Hiring based on gut feeling rather than data and behavior is another common mistake. "During interviews, use behavior questions to gauge problem-solving abilities. Look for the specific behaviors your "rockstar" employees have. James suggests using behavior interview questions to gather reliable data about candidates. By identifying behaviors crucial for the role, you can ask candidates about their past experiences, enabling you to make more informed hiring decisions. "If you go off behaviors, it becomes very clear on who you can hire, who is gonna be your A players, your B players, and your C players. And you try to hire A and B players."

    To attract the right virtual assistant, James advises using behavior-based job descriptions. He recommends observing the behaviors of successful current employees or colleagues and incorporating them into the job description. This approach helps identify suitable candidates who possess the required skills and align with the company culture. James also recommends avoiding hiring friends or family members for key roles to prevent complications.

    Avoid Hiring Friends and Family Members

    A crucial tip is to avoid hiring friends and family members for key roles. While you might have a personal connection, it can blur the lines between work and friendship. James and Whitney share cautionary stories of how this can lead to hurt feelings and ineffective working relationships. "I would say just avoid hiring friends and maybe even family members if they don't have the experience."

    Consider Hiring through Agencies

    Consider hiring virtual assistants through agencies, as they can save you time and offer management support. While it might come at a higher cost, the benefits of having a backup when someone leaves or is unavailable can be invaluable. "It makes sense to hire somebody that will help you cover... What's that 10 or 15 extra dollars of management layer?... What's an hour of your time worth?"

    Final Thoughts and Action Steps

    Hiring the right virtual assistant is essential for maximizing your productivity and growing your mental health practice. Avoiding the mistakes discussed in this episode can save you time, resources, and stress. Remember to base your hiring decisions on data and behavior, ensure your VA has mental health experience and is tech-savvy, and consider using an agency for support.

    Action Steps:
    • Create behavior interview questions to assess candidates' skills and behaviors accurately.

    • Look for virtual assistants with mental health experience to handle client-facing duties effectively.

    • Test candidates' tech-savviness by giving them a practical assignment involving digital tools.

    • Avoid hiring friends and family members for key roles to maintain professional boundaries.

    • Consider hiring through reputable agencies to save time and receive management support.

    Show Sponsor
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    Links and Resources
    • Virtual Assistant Job Description Download

    • Subscribe to the Podcast Hosted by James - Scaling Therapy Practice
    • Regeneration Recovery 12-Step Ministry

    • Profit First for Therapists - mentioned in the show

    • Manager Tools - Interview Tools

    • Course Creation Studio - See the Services James Offers

    • The Productive Therapist - A VA agency James Trusts

    • Ask Questions about Assistants in the Facebook group Assistants, Automation, and AI for Mental Health Providers

    • Email James Your Questions about Virtual Assistants - [email protected]

    • Hiring and Managing A Virtual Assistant Online Course - Sign Up for Launch Notifications at the bottom of this page

    • Wise Practice Facebook Community Group

    • Whitney Owens on Instagram

    • Visit Whitney Owens Consulting

    • Email your questions to Whitney

    Podcast Production and Show Notes by James Marland at Course Creation Studio

    41 min

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