In this deeply insightful episode, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with addiction expert Amber Hollingsworth to explore the complex intersection between betrayal and addiction—and the impact it has on partners, families, and loved ones.

Amber, who grew up in a family affected by addiction and went on to dedicate her career to helping families heal, shares raw and eye-opening truths about how addiction patterns form, why partners often become "the villain" in the addicted person's story, and how to strategically navigate the balance between compassion and boundaries without losing yourself in the process.

Together, Debi and Amber unpack how betrayal shows up through addiction—whether it's substances, behaviors, or emotional disconnection—and what it takes to stop enabling, break the cycle, and create the conditions for real recovery.

🧩 Key Topics Covered:

• Amber's personal story of growing up in an addicted family and how it shaped her life's work.

• The hidden connection between betrayal trauma and addiction—and why family members often carry the deepest wounds.

• Why partners of addicts often become "the villain" in the story and how to reverse that dynamic.

• The psychology of enabling—and how to stop protecting your loved one from the consequences they need to face.

• The painful balance between love and accountability: how to let them fall without losing yourself.

• What it really means to "hit bottom" (and why you don't have to wait for it).

• How empathy, not anger, activates the brain's learning center and creates the possibility of change.

• How to stay grounded, maintain your boundaries, and heal your own betrayal trauma—even while someone you love is still struggling.

• The difference between fast-track addictions (like cocaine) and slow-burn addictions (like alcohol or marijuana), and how each impacts relationships differently.

• How "trickle truths" and hidden addictions re-traumatize betrayed partners over time.

• Why self-care and detachment aren't selfish—they're essential for clarity, health, and long-term healing.

🧠 Key Insights:

• "When you grow up around addiction, rebellion sometimes looks like choosing to live differently."

• "You're not powerless. You can't control your loved one, but you can influence the system they're in."

• "When you stop being the villain in their story, the world becomes the mirror that shows them the truth."

• "Empathy activates learning. Anger activates defense."

• "Every time you protect someone from their consequences, you're protecting them from their transformation."

💬 Memorable Quotes:

"Self-pity and resentment are how addiction lives. Until that dynamic changes, recovery can't begin." — Amber Hollingsworth

"We can't build anything stable on a cracked foundation of deception. Every 'trickle truth' is another trauma." — Dr. Debi Silber

"You don't have to wait until someone hits bottom. They can put the shovel down at any time." — Amber Hollingsworth

🔧 Practical Takeaways:

1. Stop enabling — Let natural consequences teach what words cannot.

1. Stay in your lane — You're responsible for your peace, not their choices.

1. Lead with empathy — It's the only tone that keeps the door open for change.

1. Don't hide behind "helping" — Over-functioning feeds denial.

1. Focus on your stage of healing — Take care of yourself before you decide what's next.

🌿 About Amber Hollingsworth:

Amber Hollingsworth is a master addiction counselor, family recovery specialist, and founder of the YouTube channel Put the Shovel Down, where she educates families on how to break the patterns of enabling and codependency that keep addiction alive. Drawing from her own lived experience in an addicted family and decades of clinical practice, Amber brings clarity, compassion, and concrete strategies for real change.

👉 Watch Amber's videos: Put the Shovel Down on YouTube

🎧 Listen to This Episode If…

• You've been betrayed by someone struggling with addiction.

• You're trying to help a loved one but feel stuck, angry, or powerless.

• You're tired of living in cycles of hope and disappointment.

• You want to understand how to support someone in recovery without losing yourself.

Resources & links The PBT Institute — programs, coaches, community: https://thepbtinstitute.com/ Corporate/HR offerings & talks: https://thepbtinstitute.com/corporate Work with Dr. Debi and her amazing PBT Coaches: https://thepbtinstitute.com/transform/