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One of the many jobs that I, Rachel, had in the years after graduating college was admin at a criminal defense law firm.
I encountered a whole new level of humanity in the year I worked there. I had two convicted murderers compliment me on the quality of my work … which I was not at all sure how to take, ha!
Without getting into the gross details (because you really don't want to hear what happened), one of those murderers was appealing his case because the officer who discovered the body of the victim had done so without a proper warrant.
In legal terms, even though it was beyond evident that he was guilty, the discovery of the body was fruit of the poisonous tree—AKA, if the source of the evidence is tainted (obtained illegally), then anything gained (the "fruit") from it is tainted, too.
Moving on from the macabre … this metaphor has more than just legal implications. It's the perfect way to describe what's going on in our brains, too.
On this episode, we're getting into:
After you've listened, leave us a comment to let us know what your "fruit of the poisonous tree" is, and how you intend to un-poison it!
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Tell me if you can relate to this:
You're sitting in a work meeting, and someone says something you disagree with. You think about speaking up to share your opinion or different idea, but the little voice in your head says, "Ehh, don't bother, it's not worth it." (Then later, you kick yourself when someone else shares the same idea you had.)
Or you're talking to your mom/sister/friend/spouse/etc., and they say something that totally rubs you the wrong way. You feel hurt, annoyed, and resentful, but when you consider bringing it up with them, you immediately think, "This isn't worth making a big deal about. Just let it go." (Except the next time that same person gets under your skin — and they inevitably will — the resentment shows up again, and it's even bigger this time.)
Or your manager gives you overly critical feedback on an assignment, even though you worked your ass off to meet his impossible deadline. You want to stand up for yourself, but once again you think, "What's the point? It's not worth it." (But later that night, you find yourself scrolling through job listings online.)
Sound familiar? I know it does for me.
As a recovering people-pleaser, I've been giving a lot of thought lately to what prevents me from speaking up, especially when I sense a brewing conflict or potentially uncomfortable conversation. I've heard this same phrase ringing in my own head enough times (and from enough clients, too) to feel pretty sure that I'm onto something…
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IF YOU LIKED THIS EPISODE, THEN YOU'LL ALSO LOVE…
Side Chat: The 3 types of people-pleasers (& why you might unknowingly be one)
A best friend's roundtable on people pleasing with Stacy Campesi & Joanna Platt
Dear Krachel: How do I say no without people hating me?
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You're in for a real treat this month—We've got not one, not two, but three normal people coming at you!
In honor of our upcoming course, Getting Over People Pleasing, we sat down with two of our very best friends (Stacy Campesi and Joanna Platt, who you may remember from their past expert appearances on the podcast) to talk about all the ways that people-pleasing has affected them, and Kristen (as the sole non-people-pleaser in the room, Rachel had fun playing moderator!).
All four of us are trained coaches, but that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of challenges and struggles to work through when you've got the disease to please.
The four of us got into:
After you've listened, leave us a comment to let us know how this conversation resonated with you, and be sure to check out our past episode with Joanna about emotional constipation (from April 2018) and our past episode with Stacy about navigating a toxic workplace (from February 2019).
MORE ABOUT JOANNA
Joanna Platt is a life and relationship coach for high achievers who need space to feel their feelings, permission to put themselves first, and guidance on how to do it.
Through intuitive, deep coaching conversations that feel like heart-to-hearts, she's here to help you quiet your inner critic and bring your best self to the surface so you can connect and contribute in both your work and home life.
When she's not coaching, you can find her loving her husband Mike, reading multiple books at one time, and working in coffee shops in DC.
Meet Jo and get ready to go deep, feel your feelings, and get your sparkle back at joanna-platt.com.
MORE ABOUT STACY
Stacy Campesi is a certified professional coach and workshop facilitator. She is passionate about helping unfulfilled, overachieving professionals find career confidence and clarity.
Stacy loves working with smart, ambitious women who lead with heart and are so used to giving to others that can't even recognize their own wants or needs without feeling selfish. By cutting through the uncertainty, self-doubt, and fear of disappointing others that holds them back, Stacy is able to help her clients make decisions that get them what they want, without compromising a thing! Stacy is a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) with the International Coach Federation. She is also certified as an MBTI & Emotional Intelligence practitioner.
Find Stacy on her website, connect with her on LinkedIn, and listen to her nuggets of wisdom on Voxer @stacy_campesi.
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I'm living a very different life than I thought I would be four or five years ago. It's easy, when you're looking ahead to the future, to visualize only the golden, stellar, awesome parts. Obviously, right? I mean, who sits around visualizing the mundane and tedious and frustrating bits of their future?
I certainly didn't. All I saw, four or five years ago, was a life of purpose and ease — days full of meaningful client sessions, bountiful green juices, leisurely yoga afternoons … basically your stereotypical cool-girl Instagram feed.
Flash forward to the present, and … I've been to yoga once in the past six months and I still don't own a juicer. I do have plenty of clients, and they certainly fill my career with meaning and purpose (as does hosting this podcast, writing blogs, and leading our online programs).
But in my rosy visualizations, I never pictured what owning a business is actually like — the unpredictable income, the necessity of playing almost ALL of the roles that would normally be divided among a team, the long days, the sense of responsibility for keeping it afloat.
I'm not going to lie. I have days where the weight of it gets to me, and in my exhaustion and frustration, I ask myself seriously, "Is this worth it?"
That's a heavy question, isn't it? How do you even go about answering that when there's so much at stake and SO many convoluted feelings that go into it?
Well, I've found the BEST way to answer it, whether the thing in question is a job, relationship, or something slightly less serious.
GET ON THE VIP LIST FOR OUR NEW PEOPLE PLEASING COURSE!
Getting Over People Pleasing will be open for enrollment on Tuesday, August 20th!
If you haven't joined our VIP list yet, please do! There will be goodies for people who are on that list when we launch the course.
EPISODES WE MENTIONED IN THIS BLOG…
Bonus Book Club! Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert (June 2018)
Dear Krachel: How do I say no without people hating me? (August 2019)
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Welcome to another episode of Dear Krachel, a monthly advice segment where we answer audience questions about life, career, relationships, existential angst, and anything that helps you become a more whole, fulfilled version of yourself.
On this episode, we're answering questions from:
After you've listened, leave us a comment to let us know how our advice for these three listeners resonated with you!
Want to submit a question for our September episode of Dear Krachel? Fill out this form and you might hear us tackle your Q!
MORE EPISODES FOR YOU
Side Chat: Honing your intuition (June, 2019)
Bonus Book Club! Outrageous Openness by Tosha Silver (November, 2018)
Bonus Book Club! Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert (June, 2018)
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Several months ago, I was helping facilitate a multi-day business training. I didn't know any of the other instructors, so when I showed up on the first day, I introduced myself to the training team. I instantly got a weird vibe from the head trainer.
She ignored my introduction entirely and started spouting off everything that still needed to be done before we could get started. Her frantic energy was palpable, and I could sense it was putting the rest of us on edge.
"She's probably just nervous about pulling off a great event," I thought to myself. "Once everything's ready to go, I'm sure she'll settle down and be more personable. Don't think too much of it."
But once the students showed up and the head trainer started her presentation, my uneasy feeling only intensified.
Her exuberant positivity felt inauthentic and staged, and frankly, it made my skin crawl. She seemed much more interested in sharing stories of her own achievements rather than teaching helpful business concepts. And she would promise that we'd take a break in 10 minutes, but then ramble on for another 45, ignoring the restless energy in the room.
"Don't be judgmental, Kristen," I admonished myself. "Just because she's doing things differently than you would doesn't make her wrong. Maybe she's overcompensating for some nervous jitters. Cut her some slack."
Over the next few days, various things this woman said or did kept rubbing me the wrong way. And each time, I would chastise myself for being judgmental and try to keep an open mind about her.
Round and round it went for 3 days. Until finally, toward the end of the last day, I admitted to myself, "I just don't like this woman." Ahh, it felt so good to tell the truth! It was such a simple statement, but for me, it was a revelation. … And then came the guilt.
In this week's throwback episode from 2017, I'm getting into why people-pleasers have a hard time with discernment and how to strengthen that muscle within yourself.
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IF YOU LIKED THIS, THEN YOU'LL ALSO LOVE …
How to find your tribe and grow a network with Carolyn Birsky (April 2018)
Side Chat: Honing your intuition (& knowing when it's really fear) (June 2019)
Side Chat: Why positive thinking is mostly BS (April 2019) LINKS
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We've certainly been known to work some magic in people's lives. Career direction, life fulfillment, relationship satisfaction, spiritual peace—we can get you there. But as magical and life-changing as coaching is, there's a limit to our fairy godmother-esque powers!
When it comes to the nitty-gritty details of helping you find the perfect job (after we've helped you figure out what that job is), we're more pumpkin than golden carriage.
But never fear! Because that's why we're so eager to talk to people like Susan Levine, a master recruiter with nearly forty years of experience helping people actually find (and get hired for) their ideal job—she picks up the magic wand at the place we put it down.
In this month's interview we asked Susan some of our most burning questions about finding and getting your dream job:
Susan simplified a LOT of the process and busted through a ton of limiting beliefs that we've heard over and over again.
After you've listened, leave a comment to let us know what resonated most from this conversation, and what you might start doing differently in your job search!
MORE ABOUT SUSAN LEVINE
Susan Levine, Founder & President of Career Group Companies, is an expert in building relationships and creating meaningful professional connections. Susan founded Career Group, Inc. as the first high-end recruiting firm focused on executive and administrative support, and soon after followed with Syndicatebleu, a creative recruiting firm focused on design, marketing, and production. Following the success of these two businesses, Fourth Floor and Avenue Pacific were born, focused on fashion and C-level recruiting. Career Group Companies has since grown to serve the Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, Greenwich, and Orange County markets.
Connect with Career Group on LinkedIn
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Getting Over People Pleasing will be open for enrollment on Tuesday, August 20th!
If you haven't joined our VIP list yet, please do! There will be goodies for people who are on that list when we launch the course.
IF YOU LIKED THIS, YOU SHOULD ALSO LISTEN TO…
A former recruiter tells all (& helps you get hired) with Emily Liou (September, 2018)
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You've probably heard that oft-repeated, likely untrue anecdote about frogs: If they start out sitting in cool water, and the temperature is gradually raised bit by bit, they'll never jump out. They'll end up boiling themselves to death without ever realizing it.
And now you're thinking, "Wow, super weird and depressing intro to a blog! Thanks, Rachel." I know! Forgive me. It's just … I AM that frog sometimes.
Personally, I feel like this is exactly what getting into a state of deep overwhelm is like.
One day I wake up to find myself anxious, panicked, rushed, and overwhelmed (aka, neck deep in boiling water), and I can't tell when it started. It came on so gradually that I didn't notice until I was already way far gone!
I share this today because, quite frankly, I've been feeling overwhelmed lately, and it is so uncomfortable.
It's hard to know what to do when you're in this state — you certainly can't think very clearly, and you have NO idea where to begin unwinding the mess you're in.
And when you feel like that, it's easy to shut down and do nothing … which inevitably makes the overwhelm worse because more things pile on top of you while you're blocking out the world.
So, I thought I would share my go-to move for getting out of overwhelm. It's the kind of thing that ALL of us can do, and in my experience, it always helps alleviate the worst of the pressure. And it's probably not what you expect.
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All of us know at least one blatant, dare we say egregious, people-pleaser. Maybe it's your mom, or your best friend, or your boss … or maybe it's you.
But we've noticed a pattern lately, and we think you need to be clued into it: Some of the worst offenders when it comes to people-pleasing don't realize they're people-pleasers!
In fact, we've had clients who vehemently denied being a people-pleaser — they insist they don't care what people think — only to be a bit shellshocked after we demonstrated just how perfectly they fit the mold.
In this month's brand-new Side Chat we got into:
Our definition of people-pleasing, so we're all on the same page. The 3 types of people-pleasers: One is obvious, two are far less conspicuous, but all are equally problematic. The first steps you should take, regardless of which type you are, to free yourself of this affliction.
After you've listened, leave a comment to let us know which type of people-pleaser you most identify with!
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Getting Over People Pleasing will be open for enrollment on Tuesday, August 20th!
If you haven't joined our VIP list yet, please do! There will be goodies for people who are on that list when we launch the course.
EPISODES WE MENTIONED IN THIS SIDE CHAT
Side Chat: Curing your people-pleasing disease (May 2018)
Rejection therapy with Alex Grodnik (June 2019)
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Instead of a new blog, on today's episode of the podcast we're taking a few minutes to clue you in to two MORE major developments in the Clarity on Fire universe!
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT #1
Our new course, Getting Over People Pleasing, will be open for enrollment on Tuesday, August 20th!
If you haven't joined our VIP list yet, please do! There will be goodies for people who are on that list when we launch the course.
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT #2
We're phasing out our group coaching course, the Passion Plan Virtual Experience, aka the PPVE!
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