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In this episode of The Jim Fortin Podcast, Jim explores why conflict isn't something that exists "out there" in the world, but is instead created the moment a person takes a side. He argues that all division — political, religious, personal — is a product of the human ego identifying with a single, limited interpretation of reality, and that true peace only returns when a person stops defending a position and remembers themselves as consciousness rather than the body or the belief. 

Jim illustrates this with a personal story about getting scammed by a fake towing company, his upbringing around fundamentalist preachers in Texas, and a Coca-Cola versus Pepsi metaphor he uses to describe "mastering neutrality." He also examines how this same dynamic shows up in parenting, where trying to control or judge a adult child's choices is really just another form of taking sides. 

This episode offers listeners a practical way to recognize when they've fallen into righteousness or division — and how to return to peace instead. 

What You’ll Discover in This Episode: 

(00:00) Where conflict actually comes from — Jim explains that disharmony isn't a lack of peace in the world; it exists because people don't know themselves as source rather than ego. 

(07:38) Why institutions divide — Jim points to preachers, politicians, money, and religion as forces that split humanity by disguising ego and dogma as morality. 

(11:02) The Coke and Pepsi metaphor — Jim introduces "mastering neutrality," showing that both sides of any argument are simply two versions of the same illusion. 

(13:53) Whatever you fight weakens you — Using a Mother Teresa quote and Wayne Dyer's tree metaphor, Jim reveals how opposing anything grants it power and traps a person in conflict. 

(20:00) Why the "correct side" winning never brings peace — Jim challenges the belief that healing the world means making one side win, and reframes what true unity requires. 

(27:45) Peace as a realization, not a result — Jim closes with the truth that divine mind has never been divided or taken a side, and neither should the listener. 

Listen, apply, and enjoy! 

Transformational Takeaway 

Every time a person declares one side right and the other wrong, they step out of consciousness and into the ego's illusion of division. Peace was never meant to come from winning an argument or fixing the world outside — it comes from remembering that the listener, at their core, is the same undivided source as everyone they're tempted to oppose. Letting go of the need to be right isn't weakness; it's the doorway back to harmony. 

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With gratitude, 
Jim