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EP010 世界走向封闭，赛博怀念过去 Cyber-nostalgia in a collapsing world
【聊了什么 The What】
上一期聊中国工厂背后的全球化逆流打开了几位主播的话匣子，身处在动荡、多变的当下，我们越来越多看到同龄的新新人类开始陷入怀旧的情绪：从小时候观看奥运会和世博会的懵懂的激动，到互联网如何打开我们探索世界的大门，那个时代好像有一种开放、灿烂、向全世界问好的基调。朴树在千禧年写下“穿新衣吧，剪新发型呀。轻松一下，Windows 98”，却在2017年把这首歌改写成“时光不再，已不是我们的世界。它早已物是人非，让人崩溃意冷心灰”，去看看这两首歌的评论区，你就会看到大家都能感受到同样的集体情绪。
所以这期播客里，主播们一起检视了这种情绪转变，当我们在怀念古早互联网和全球化潮流的时候怀念的到底是什么？我们发现，作为和互联网共同长大的第一代人，科技带领我们见了世面、走到海外，我们却越来越想要回归 low-tech 的设备和不智能的软件。安蕤给我们科普了什么是“中式梦核”，这些蓝玻璃旧商场的意象，带着一层阴暗诡异的滤镜，代表着我们对过去又怀念又遗憾的情绪。不过即使在陷入算法网络的今天，互联网还是给我们了一些希望：全球化的未来，可能就藏在东华金龙的 TikTok 视频评论区里。
In the last episode, the discussion about the backlash against globalization around Chinese factories really kept us thinking. Living in a time of turbulence and change, we increasingly see our peers evoking a sense of nostalga: from the excitement of watching the Olympics and World Expo as kids, to the way the internet opened the door for us to explore the world, there seemed to be a tone of openness and optimism in that era. Back in the millennium, Pu Shu wrote, “Put on new clothes, get a new haircut. Let’s have some fun, Windows 98,” but by 2017, he rewrote the song as “Time is gone, this is no longer our world. Everything has changed, leaving us devastated and disheartened.” Take a look at the comment sections of both songs, and you’ll see that everyone feels this collective emotion.
So in this episode, the hosts examined this emotional shift. When we look back fondly on the early internet and the wave of globalization, what exactly are we nostalgic for? We found that, as the first generation to grow up alongside the internet, technology showed us the world and took us overseas—yet we’re increasingly turning to low-tech devices and non-AI software. Anrui explained to us what “Chinese Dreamcore” is: these images of blue buildings and deserted malls through an eerie filter reflect a sense of yearning and regret for the past. But even in today’s algorithm-driven internet, there’s still some hope: the future of globalization might just be hiding in the comment sections of Donghua Jinlong’s TikTok videos.
【时间轴 The When】
00:03:00 – 哈佛女孩刘亦婷那个时代对成功的想象
00:10:26 – 08年奥运会与10年世博会的大时代感
00:23:28 – 互联网和娱乐工业让我了解千里之外的世界
00:30:32 – 智能手机如此发达，我们却开始怀念一次性相机
00:32:50 – 什么是中式梦核，为什么它让我们隐隐不安？
00:44:56 – 我们是第一代怀旧记忆与互联网无法分割的人
01:00:15 – 人工智能算法主导的互联网让人群之间越来越分裂和封闭
01:06:58 – TikTok上的工厂视频却能引起跨文化的共鸣
00:03:00 – Perceiving the success of Liu Yiting, the “Harvard girl”
00:10:26 – Optimism in the 2000s: the 08 Olympics and 10 World Expo
00:23:28 – Meeting the world through Western songs and iTunes
00:30:32 – Smartphones are out; disposable cameras are in
00:32:50 – What is “Chinese Dreamcore” and why does it make us uncomfortable?
00:44:56 – The first generation that can’t be nostalgic without bringing up the internet
01:00:15 – An algorithm-driven internet is isolating people
01:06:58 – Yet TikTok factory videos can still bridge cultures
【我们是谁 Who We Are】
新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。
马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人
杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人
一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者
【拓展链接 The Links】
【支持我们 Please Support Us】
如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们：
海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl
海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod
商务合作邮箱：[email protected]
If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following:
Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl
Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod
Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]
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By Matthew, Anrui, Yiwen
4.9
1010 ratings
【聊了什么 The What】
上一期聊中国工厂背后的全球化逆流打开了几位主播的话匣子，身处在动荡、多变的当下，我们越来越多看到同龄的新新人类开始陷入怀旧的情绪：从小时候观看奥运会和世博会的懵懂的激动，到互联网如何打开我们探索世界的大门，那个时代好像有一种开放、灿烂、向全世界问好的基调。朴树在千禧年写下“穿新衣吧，剪新发型呀。轻松一下，Windows 98”，却在2017年把这首歌改写成“时光不再，已不是我们的世界。它早已物是人非，让人崩溃意冷心灰”，去看看这两首歌的评论区，你就会看到大家都能感受到同样的集体情绪。
所以这期播客里，主播们一起检视了这种情绪转变，当我们在怀念古早互联网和全球化潮流的时候怀念的到底是什么？我们发现，作为和互联网共同长大的第一代人，科技带领我们见了世面、走到海外，我们却越来越想要回归 low-tech 的设备和不智能的软件。安蕤给我们科普了什么是“中式梦核”，这些蓝玻璃旧商场的意象，带着一层阴暗诡异的滤镜，代表着我们对过去又怀念又遗憾的情绪。不过即使在陷入算法网络的今天，互联网还是给我们了一些希望：全球化的未来，可能就藏在东华金龙的 TikTok 视频评论区里。
In the last episode, the discussion about the backlash against globalization around Chinese factories really kept us thinking. Living in a time of turbulence and change, we increasingly see our peers evoking a sense of nostalga: from the excitement of watching the Olympics and World Expo as kids, to the way the internet opened the door for us to explore the world, there seemed to be a tone of openness and optimism in that era. Back in the millennium, Pu Shu wrote, “Put on new clothes, get a new haircut. Let’s have some fun, Windows 98,” but by 2017, he rewrote the song as “Time is gone, this is no longer our world. Everything has changed, leaving us devastated and disheartened.” Take a look at the comment sections of both songs, and you’ll see that everyone feels this collective emotion.
So in this episode, the hosts examined this emotional shift. When we look back fondly on the early internet and the wave of globalization, what exactly are we nostalgic for? We found that, as the first generation to grow up alongside the internet, technology showed us the world and took us overseas—yet we’re increasingly turning to low-tech devices and non-AI software. Anrui explained to us what “Chinese Dreamcore” is: these images of blue buildings and deserted malls through an eerie filter reflect a sense of yearning and regret for the past. But even in today’s algorithm-driven internet, there’s still some hope: the future of globalization might just be hiding in the comment sections of Donghua Jinlong’s TikTok videos.
【时间轴 The When】
00:03:00 – 哈佛女孩刘亦婷那个时代对成功的想象
00:10:26 – 08年奥运会与10年世博会的大时代感
00:23:28 – 互联网和娱乐工业让我了解千里之外的世界
00:30:32 – 智能手机如此发达，我们却开始怀念一次性相机
00:32:50 – 什么是中式梦核，为什么它让我们隐隐不安？
00:44:56 – 我们是第一代怀旧记忆与互联网无法分割的人
01:00:15 – 人工智能算法主导的互联网让人群之间越来越分裂和封闭
01:06:58 – TikTok上的工厂视频却能引起跨文化的共鸣
00:03:00 – Perceiving the success of Liu Yiting, the “Harvard girl”
00:10:26 – Optimism in the 2000s: the 08 Olympics and 10 World Expo
00:23:28 – Meeting the world through Western songs and iTunes
00:30:32 – Smartphones are out; disposable cameras are in
00:32:50 – What is “Chinese Dreamcore” and why does it make us uncomfortable?
00:44:56 – The first generation that can’t be nostalgic without bringing up the internet
01:00:15 – An algorithm-driven internet is isolating people
01:06:58 – Yet TikTok factory videos can still bridge cultures
【我们是谁 Who We Are】
新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。
马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人
杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人
一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者
【拓展链接 The Links】
【支持我们 Please Support Us】
如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们：
海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl
海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod
商务合作邮箱：[email protected]
If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following:
Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl
Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod
Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]
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