Welcome to a very special episode of Positive Disintegration! For the first time ever, Chris and Emma sat down together in person to record—not virtually, not over Zoom or SquadCast, but face to face in the heart of Madison, Wisconsin. In this warm and unscripted special, we reflect on our friendship, the podcast’s evolution, and the joy (and awkwardness!) of finally being in the same room after three years of collaboration.

In this episode:

* Behind-the-scenes stories from Emma’s trip to the U.S.

* Meeting Michael Piechowski and getting hosted with tea and cookies

* Visiting the Henry Vilas Zoo, hanging out with James, Jason, and Jack—and, of course, the infamous hound dog, Champ

* Reflections on growth, healing, and laying new paths

* Creating the Positive Disintegration Network and dreaming forward into 2025

* How their work and friendship have evolved over years of podcasting together

* Early glimpses of new projects: cosmic cheer squad and PDA: Resistance and Resilience

✨ This is part one of a two-part special to our listeners—an intimate conversation full of laughter, reflection, and visioning for what’s next.

Links from this episode

Tragic Gift

Adults with Overexcitabilities

Upcoming podcasts Chris mentioned:

The cosmic cheer squad podcast is coming soon with Bee Mayhew from pragmagination

PDA: Resistance & Resilience is coming later this spring with Marni Kammersell from Wandering Brightly

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* Positive Disintegration on Substack

* Visit the Dabrowski Center website

* Facebook

* Instagram

* The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

* Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

* The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

* Email us at [email protected]

* Please consider donating to the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.

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In episode 72, Chris and Emma talked with Dr. Lil Jedynak—a memoir writing coach, multi-potential creative, and gifted adult—who helps people tell their life stories through the lens of autoethnography.

Lil shares her journey of self-discovery, from uncovering her giftedness at 60 to finding new frameworks for understanding her life, such as Dąbrowski’s Theory of Positive Disintegration. We explore how writing became a tool for her healing, integration, and personal growth and how she now guides others on their own storytelling paths.

We dive into:

* How early experiences of invisibility, perfectionism, and cultural expectations shaped Lil’s understanding of her giftedness.

* The role of autoethnography in making sense of one’s life story and deepening self-awareness.

* The interplay between tall poppy syndrome, perfectionism, and the fear of failure.

* The power of embracing past struggles as part of personal development.

* How creativity, intuition, and personal reflection help gifted individuals integrate their complex identities.

* Alternative ways to process and express self-discovery beyond writing.

This conversation is full of insight into the lived experience of positive disintegration and how we can turn our personal narratives into sources of strength. Whether you love to write or prefer other forms of self-expression, there are many ways to make meaning of your story. Join us for an inspiring discussion that celebrates authenticity, creativity, and the art of storytelling.

Resources from this episode

* Website: drlilconsults.com

* Substack: Lil’s Substack

* Lil’s session from DC2024 on YouTube: Fame and Fragility

Join us at the 2025 International Symposium on Autoethnography and Narrative

People mentioned:

Lotte van Lith — A Lot of Complexity & Episode 9

Jennifer Harvey Sallin — InterGifted & Episode 23

Sheldon Gay — I Must Be BUG'N Pod & Episode 63

Books mentioned:

* Living with Intensity – Susan Daniels & Michael M. Piechowski

* Personality Shaping Through Positive Disintegration – Kazimierz Dabrowski

* Bright Adults: Uniqueness & Belonging Across the Lifespan – Ellen Fiedler

* Writing as a Way of Healing – Louise DeSalvo

Connect with us

* Positive Disintegration on Substack

* Visit the Dabrowski Center website

* Facebook

* Instagram

* The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

* Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

* The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

* Email us at [email protected]

* Please consider donating to the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.

* Find Positive Disintegration Merch

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*Content Warning: This episode contains a discussion about suicide, which may be distressing to some listeners. Click here for resources.

In episode 71, Chris and Emma continue the conversation with Dr. Stacey Freedenthal, a suicidologist, therapist, author, and professor at the University of Denver.

In this second installment, we delve deeper into the complexities of suicidality, exploring chronic suicidal thoughts and the stigma surrounding suicide. We talk more about what to say and what not to say to someone who is suicidal and how to support those in emotional pain.

Stacey shares valuable insights and practical resources for those navigating these challenging experiences. Chris and Emma reflect on their personal journeys and the power of connection in moments of despair.

This candid discussion provides essential perspectives for anyone seeking to better understand suicide, reduce stigma, and foster compassion.

Resources from this Episode

Speaking of Suicide

StaceyFreedenthal.com

Helping the Suicidal Person: Tips and Techniques for Professionals (book for professionals)

Loving Someone with Suicidal Thoughts: What Family, Friends, and Partners Can Say and Do (book for laypeople)

Frank King, A Matter of Laugh or Death (YouTube)

r/SuicideWatch (Reddit)

ChronicSuicideSupport.com

Alternatives to Suicide

WarmLine

Wildflower Alliance

Live Through This

Chris’s story on Live Through This (Interview date: February 26, 2015, Denver, CO)

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Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

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*Content Warning: This episode contains a discussion about suicide, which may be distressing to some listeners. Click here for resources.

In episode 70, Chris and Emma talk with Dr. Stacey Freedenthal, a suicidologist, therapist, author, and professor at the University of Denver. We discuss the deeply important but often stigmatized topic of suicide.

This is part one of a two-part series that explores the intersection of suicide and Dabrowski’s theory of positive disintegration, offering listeners tools for empathy and connection in the face of despair.

Stacey shares her personal journey with suicidality, the experiences that led her to dedicate her career to this work, and the insights she’s gained through her research, teaching, and practice.

Together, we explore the stigma surrounding suicidal thoughts, the ways people can hide their pain, and how well-intentioned responses often fall short. Stacey emphasizes the need for what she calls “brave listening”—creating a safe space for honest conversations without judgment or quick fixes. Chris and Emma also reflect on their own experiences and share perspectives on navigating these tough but crucial discussions.

Resources from this episode

Speaking of Suicide

StaceyFreedenthal.com

Helping the Suicidal Person: Tips and Techniques for Professionals (book for professionals)

Loving Someone with Suicidal Thoughts: What Family, Friends, and Partners Can Say and Do (book for laypeople)

A Suicide Therapist’s Secret Past (NY Times article mentioned, behind paywall. Click for PDF)

Stacey mentioned the following image from her book’s cover.

We mentioned Episode 8: Surviving Disintegration

Thomas Joiner’s Interpersonal Theory of Suicide (Wikipedia)

Connect with us

Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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In episode 69, Chris and Emma talked with Lian Brook-Tyler, shamanic healer, teacher of unity, podcaster, and co-founder of the Be Mythical podcast. In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, we dive into the intersections of mysticism, neurodivergence, spirituality, transformation, and awakenings—connecting these profound experiences to Dabrowski’s theory of positive disintegration.

We explore:

* How neurodivergence can shape mystical and spiritual experiences.

* The connection between shamanic practices, inner work, and positive disintegration.

* The importance of doing the work of inner transformation and embracing the unknown.

* The parallels between psychological and spiritual frameworks in understanding human development.

Lian’s mythical journey truly began when she was ruptured open to Spirit with the sudden death of her father—which led to her mysteriously recovering from 15 years of chronic pain, panic attacks and anxiety. That inexplicable transformation inspired her to leave a leadership role in the corporate world to immerse herself in discovering what creates pain and struggle, and conversely, how to create a life overflowing with love, magic, beauty and truth

Lian also shares how her work at Be Mythical, together with co-founder Jonathan Wilkinson, supports old souls and visionaries on initiatory journeys of self-discovery, using myth and ancient wisdom to find purpose and truth. Their work, Be Mythical, is an alchemy of ancient ways for modern days. It weaves together eclectic wisdom teachings and natural traditions such as rewilding, magic and animist spirituality, embodiment, and self-illumination into a soul-led, heart-centred, sovereign path of reclaiming your wildness, actualising your deepest gifts, to live fully and die complete.

Here is the Tree of Life image Lian discussed during the episode

Links from this episode

Be Mythical website

Be Mythical podcast

Be Mythical episodes we mentioned:

* “Over-excitability”: A more truthful and constructive perspective on neurodivergence? (episode with Chris)

* How to know if you're really "Doing The Work"? Sara J. Sanderson interviews Lian Brook-Tyler

Positive Disintegration Episode 29: The Disintegrating Duck

Courses: https://www.bemythical.com/godeeper

Free fb group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1694264587546957

Fb page: https://www.facebook.com/bemythical

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BeMythical

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/be.mythical/

Moonly Newsletter: https://www.bemythical.com/moonly

Connect with us

Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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Tuesday, December 10, 2024, is Colorado Gives Day. Please consider donating to the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, and help support the Dabrowski Congress, other events, and our archive. This year, a generous anonymous donor has pledged to match gifts up to $2,500 USD. Thank you for supporting our work!

In episode 68, Chris and Emma debriefed about Chris’s session from NAGC 2023 titled “Overexcitabilities and Dąbrowski’s Theory: Correcting the Course in Gifted Education.” We covered the five common myths or misunderstandings about the theory of positive disintegration that were addressed in the presentation.

We’ve been sitting on this episode because we didn’t have time to get it out right after last year's conference. Michael’s episode was the priority following NAGC 2023 since his 90th birthday was approaching. We were also concerned that we had shared so many posts about NAGC in the lead-up to the conference that people might be burned out on the topic—but now, we are ready to share!

Highlights

00:02:13 Debriefing about the conference

00:03:50 Previous sessions from Chris at NAGC

00:07:22 Positive impact of the 2022 OE panel session

00:10:02 Myth 1: There is little or no empirical evidence for TPD

00:14:54 Myth 2: TPD is a theory of giftedness

00:24:27 Myth 3: Overexcitability can only be understood within the context of positive disintegration

00:28:43 We do still need the theory as a non-pathologizing framework

00:35:27 Myth 4: Overexcitability and openness to experience are the same thing, and the five-factor model can replace TPD

00:39:45 Myth 5: Overexcitability can be differentiated from ADHD and autism

00:44:50 There's no clear line of demarcation for types of neurodivergence and OE.

00:48:08 Best practices for working with overexcitability

00:52:58 Main takeaways from the session

00:56:49 We care a lot

We hope you’ll enjoy this episode! We’re releasing it ahead of NAGC 2024 in Seattle. Chris submitted no proposals this year and looks forward to attending NAGC without presenting for once. They feel it’s worth repeating this material from last year instead.

Links from this episode

Click here for the download Chris shared at NAGC with slides and relevant papers.

View the post NAGC 2023: Overexcitabilities and Dąbrowski’s Theory from November 2023.

The song “We Care a Lot” by Faith No More (1985), for those who are unfamiliar. It was mentioned during this exchange at the end of the episode.

Connect with us

Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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In episode 67, Chris and Emma were joined by Caitlin Hughes from the Divergent Dialogues podcast. Caitlin is an accredited mental health social worker and founder of Cathartic Collaborations, a neurodivergent-affirming private practice based in Brisbane, Australia.

We dive deep into the complexities of multi-exceptional neurodivergent identities, the journey of self-discovery, and the importance of embracing our differences. We discussed the theory of positive disintegration as a liberating framework that offers an alternative to the pathology paradigm.

Here are some highlights from our conversation:

* The Power of Self-Understanding: Caitlin shares their personal journey of late diagnosis as an AuDHD PDAer, highlighting the profound impact this had on their self-perception. We talked about the importance of understanding ourselves and how this knowledge can lead to a transformative process of healing and self-acceptance. Our identities are multifaceted, and embracing our unique neurotypes can empower us to live authentically.

* Depathologizing Difference: One of the core themes of our conversation is the need to depathologize neurodivergent experiences. Caitlin discusses how societal narratives often frame neurodivergent traits as deficits rather than strengths. By embracing neurodivergent identities and advocating for a more inclusive understanding, we can create spaces where individuals feel seen and validated.

* The Role of Sensual Giftedness: Caitlin introduces the concept of sensual giftedness and how it plays a significant role in their practice. They explain how processing emotions and experiences through sensory modalities can lead to deeper healing. This perspective is particularly enlightening for those of us who may have felt misunderstood or marginalized due to our sensory sensitivities. Caitlin's insights remind us that our unique ways of experiencing the world can be powerful tools for growth and self-discovery.

(Please note that at 23:44, Caitlin said granite when they meant to say “graphite” when referring to diamonds and granite).

Caitlin uses their intersectional lived experience to therapeutically support neurocomplex & neuroqueer folks. They utilize somatic therapeutic modalities to support clients to heal systemic trauma and embrace their unique neurotype, strengths, and differences, empowering them to build a self-defined life of meaning and purpose.

Caitlin has a Facebook group called "Neurodivergent Affirming Social Workers Collective" where they want to inspire and support other Social Workers to grow in their neurodivergent affirming practice. Caitlin is co-host of "Divergent Dialogues" a neurodivergent affirming podcast and blog on Substack which explores a blend of current research, lived and professional experience. Caitlin is currently completing a PhD with a strong interest in qualitative research in the area of autistic mental health.

Links from this Episode

Cathartic Collaborations

Divergent Dialogues on Substack

Episode 25: Multi-exceptionality, Overexcitabilities and Positive Disintegration with Chris and Emma

Social media: @cathartic.collaborations (on Facebook and Instagram)

Neurodivergent Affirming Social Workers Collective on Facebook

2024 Dabrowski Congress videos (available for $15 USD)

Head Office, Making Sense of My Mind (Emma’s video)

Mellow Out by Michael M. Piechowski is the book Chris recommended about overexcitabilities and personal growth

Bring Me the Horizon — Mantra (song on YouTube)

InterGifted

Hearing Voices Network

Excerpt from Fragments from the Diary of a Madman by Cienin

Mr. Sparkle (fun behind-the-scenes fact: this was in reference to a Mr Sparkle t-shirt Emma was wearing during recording!)

Connect with us

Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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In episode 66, Chris and Emma celebrated the podcast’s third birthday! We reflect on our highlights, challenges, and lessons over the last year.

One of the most rewarding aspects of our podcast journey has been the incredible community we've built around the theory of positive disintegration. The relationships we’ve formed—both with each other and with our listeners—have been instrumental in our development. We’ve witnessed the transformation of individuals within our community, and it’s a reminder of how vital connection is in our personal and professional lives.

We touch on letting go of perfectionism. We both know that growth is an ongoing process, and it’s okay not to have everything figured out. We share our experiences navigating challenges and how they’ve pushed us to rethink our values and boundaries. This journey of self-discovery is not linear, and embracing the messiness of life as we continue to evolve is essential.

Our conversation also delves into the complexities of values and how they can clash, especially in today’s polarized world. We explore how different perspectives can lead to misunderstandings and the importance of recognizing that our values may manifest differently in our actions. This insight fosters empathy and understanding in personal relationships and broader societal contexts.

Links from this episode

Our previous birthday episodes from year 1 (Ep. 20, Values) and year 2 (Ep. 46).

Episode 34, Mental health Awareness was mentioned

Emma’s post Visualisation, Sel-Therapy, and the Shadow Beast

Chris’s post Making Friends and Building Community

Some of the highlights mentioned from our last year

* Episode 47, Harry Potter and the Path of Disintegration with Katy McDaniel and Emily Strand

* Episode 48, Piechowski’s Insights on Positive Disintegration with Michael M. Piechowski

* Episode 50, Giftedness and Personality with Deborah Ruf

* Episode 52: Voice as a Mirror of Inner States with Laura Stavinoha

* Episode 54: Navigating the Tides of Change, from Gift-a-Palooza 2024

* Episode 55: Gifted Intersections and Transformation with Kaitlin Smith

* Episode 56: Autoethnography for Personal Growth

* Episode 57: Nurturing Giftedness and Overexcitabilities in the Classroom with Summer Cowick

* Episode 58: Building Better Social Worlds with Theory with Sergej van Middendorp and Abbie VanMeter

* Episode 60: Dabrowski 101, An Introduction to the Theory of Positive Disintegration

* Episode 61: The Power of Professional Identity with Sarabeth Berk Bickerton

* Episode 62: Discovering Your Inner Compass, our DC2024 workshop

* Episode 63 Diverse Voices and Gifted Belonging with Sheldon Gay

Videos from the 2024 Dabrowski Congress are available for $15 here.

Connect with us

Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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In episode 65, Chris and Emma continue their two-part conversation with Dr. Linda Silverman. Linda shares her insights on asynchronous development, emphasizing the importance of understanding IQ scores as minimal estimates and not definitive indicators of a person's potential.

Linda also reflects on her involvement with the Dabrowski Congress and the evolution of the giftedness community. She recounts her role in developing the concept of asynchronous development with the Columbus Group and creating Advanced Development Journal, a unique publication dedicated to adult giftedness.

Chris and Emma express their gratitude for Linda’s decades of work and share how her contributions continue to inspire new generations to explore the intersections of giftedness, neurodivergence, and positive disintegration. This episode explores the challenges and triumphs of advocating for a deeper understanding of giftedness and positive disintegration.

Links from this episode

Gifted Development Center website

Advanced Development Journal

Institute for the Study of Advanced Development (ISAD)

For a deeper dive into asynchronous development, we suggest the book Off the Charts by Neville, Piechowski, & Tolan (Eds.)

Download “Giftedness: The View from Within” by Martha J. Morelock (1992), the first published article about asynchronous development. It was published in the journal Linda mentioned, Understanding Our Gifted.

Episodes with people we mentioned:

* Episode 5, Researching Overexcitability, with Frank Falk

* Episode 19, The Challenge of Levels, with Stephanie Tolan

* Episode 48, Piechowski’s Insights on Positive Disintegration with Michael M. Piechowski

Chris’s paper from ADJ: The Primary Importance of the Inner Experience of Giftedness

Michael Piechowski’s Table of Forms and Manifestations of Overexcitability

Giftedness as Neurodivergence, Not Functioning Label by Marni Kammersell and Katy Higgins Lee. The link is a YouTube video of their presentation from the 2024 Dabrowski Congress.

Click here to purchase the 2024 Dabrowski Congress recordings for full access. For the remainder of 2024, the purchase price has been reduced to $15 USD. Thank you to everyone who has supported this event.

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Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

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The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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In episode 64, Chris and Emma talked with Dr. Linda Silverman, a licensed clinical and counseling psychologist in Westminster, Colorado. Linda founded and directs the Institute for the Study of Advanced Development (ISAD) and its subsidiary, Gifted Development Center. This episode is Part 1 of a two-part series with Dr. Silverman. The first conversation explores Linda's discovery of Dabrowski's theory in 1979 and her role in establishing the Dabrowski Study Group with Dr. Frank Falk at the University of Denver.

Listeners will also gain insights into the complexities of giftedness, including the controversial issue of IQ testing. Linda reflects on how societal shifts have shaped gifted education and the changes she has observed during her career. She offers a candid critique of the limitations of the field, highlighting the challenges of adequately identifying and supporting the unique needs of highly gifted individuals. Her work has had a profound impact on individuals as well as our broader understanding of giftedness.

This discussion included many articles and resources, which we’ve shared below. Part 2 will be released soon!

Links from this episode

Gifted Development Center website

Advanced Development Journal

Institute for the Study of Advanced Development (ISAD)

We’ve tried to include the following links in the order they were mentioned.

Michael Piechowski’s chapter on Developmental Potential from New Voices in Counseling the Gifted. The other chapter mentioned was Giftedness as Multilevel Potential by Kay Ogburn-Colangelo. The book, edited by Nicholas Colangelo and Ronald T. Zaffrann, can still be found online. Click here to read Linda's review for Contemporary Psychology called “Gifts for The Gifted.”

The Theory of Positive Disintegration and its Implications for Giftedness by Silverman & Ellsworth, from the 1980 conference Linda discussed attending.

Interesting Quotes, Vol. 7 featured work by Marlene Rankel

Episodes with folks mentioned in this episode:

* Episode 5, Researching Overexcitability, with Frank Falk

* Episode 35, Dąbrowski’s Theory in Practice with Patty Gatto-Walden

* Episode 48, Piechowski’s Insights on Positive Disintegration with Michael M. Piechowski

Chris discussed meeting Linda at the 2015 SENG Conference. SENG stands for Supporting the Emotional Needs of the Gifted.

Making Friends and Building Community is the post that Chris mentioned.

Two papers by Linda were mentioned:

* The Two-Edged Sword of Compensation (Gifted Education International)

* My Love Affair with Dabrowski’s Theory (Roeper Review)

Nancy Miller’s MACS coding system and dissertation were mentioned. You can also read about MACS in this paper, which Nancy co-authored with Linda in Roeper Review.

Sam Ammirato’s dissertation

In a Different Voice by Carol Gilligan

Linda mentioned her book Counseling the Gifted & Talented

How the Gifted Cope With Their Emotions by Annemarie Roeper

Linda talked about chapters by Michael Piechowski on emotional giftedness. His chapter from 1997 was the focus of Interesting Quotes, Vol. 2. She also pointed out that his book Mellow Out is an excellent source for learning about emotional and spiritual giftedness.

“When Does Water Become Steam?” was presented by Linda in 2018 at the Triple Nine Society’s annual ggg999 meeting.

Ann Klein’s book A Forgotten Voice is a biography of Leta S. Hollingworth.

“A Feminine Perspective on Giftedness” is the chapter Linda said is currently being updated.

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Positive Disintegration on Substack

Visit the Dabrowski Center website

Facebook

Instagram

The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

Email us at [email protected]

Please consider supporting the podcast to help fund this work through the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

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