E6: The AI moment, AI vs crypto: a heated debate with Amjad Masad, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz

Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen 

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview of the debate

(00:30) Sponsor

(01:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution

(03:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI

(08:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment

(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?

(23:45) AI’s effect on coding

(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped

(35:00) Bounties

(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?

(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate

(01:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”

(01:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism

(01:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality

(01:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?

(01:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto

(01:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism

(01:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE

(01:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down

(01:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective

(01:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective

(01:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view

(01:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis

(01:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum

(01:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl

(01:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions

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