Today we're sharing a recent interview Erik gave to Alex LaBossiere that covers lots of themes we discuss on Moment of Zen - including Erik's views on tech vs. the media, hypocrisy of the elites, risk orientation, and the thesis behind Turpentine. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv, head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months

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LINKS:

Alex Labossiere podcast:

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@labossiere

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7lf0G6SBTArFlJYuHlPPoy?si=459fb368b525468d&nd=1&dlsi=eb2b481981f44211

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/labossiere-podcast/id1566013149

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(05:38) On Investing vs Operating

(08:05) Trust and Direct Distribution

(11:55) Legacy Media and the Techlash

(17:54) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv

(20:32) What is Turpentine

(22:23) Lessons From 1000 Interviews

(23:51) The Printing Press, Barbells, and the Future of Media

(28:13) Pre-Internet Journalism and Survival of the Fittest Ideas

(31:35) Creator Monetization and Price Discrimination

(37:45) Sponsor: Squad

(39:12) Does Media Have a Direction?

(46:02) Tailwinds and Turpentine at Scale

(53:55) Creating More Startups and Understanding Risk

(58:42) Is Entrepreneurship Founder or Market Limited?

(1:03:22) What Do Most People Get Wrong About Community Building?

(1:05:51) Probabilistic vs Deterministic Mindsets

(1:08:48) On Faith over Logic

(1:12:22) Modernity and God Shaped Holes

(1:15:02) The Hypocrisy of Elites

(1:17:47) Asking Erik Questions He Asks People

(1:19:05) What Should More People be Thinking About?

(1:22:37) Wrap