Can a marriage survive not just one affair, but dozens? In this episode, Ryan and Jen share their remarkable story of heartbreak, hard work, and the slow rebuilding of trust after years of betrayal.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
04:45 Conversation with Ryan and Jen
19:00 Closing Remarks

LINKS & EXTRAS

Truth Talk Courses: Truth Talk—Asking Questions and Truth Talk—Giving Answers

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When infidelity happens more than once, recovery gets even harder. Therapists Tim Tedder and Jennifer Gingras unpack the challenges of multiple affairs—the unique characteristics and considerations for each partner. Honest, compassionate conversations for partners, strayers, and the professionals who support them.

Whether you’re a partner trying to understand or the one who strayed, this podcast offers insight, guidance, and hope for navigating this difficult terrain of relational repair.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
03:10 Multiple Affair Measures: Timeline, Frequency, Discoveries, Patterns
09:45 Considering the Betrayed Partner
14:40 Considering the Involved Partner
19:40 The Risk of Ongoing Infidelity
22:05 The Hard Work of Change
28:30 Counselor Perspectives

LINKS & EXTRAS

Course: Truth Talk: Asking Questions - a guide to asking for the truth about your partner’s affair.

Course: Truth Talk: Giving Answers - a guide for answering your partner’s questions about your affair.

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Tim Tedder: Coaching Information

Jennifer Gingras: Coaching Information and Counseling Website

Not all affairs start for the same reason. Discover the motives that drive infidelity and how each shapes the road to healing.

Why do people have affairs? In this episode of The Recovery Room, Tim Tedder explores six common motives behind infidelity—the Alarm, Exit, Quest, Revenge, Impulse, and Habit affairs. Drawing on illustrations and real-life examples, Tim explains how each motive takes shape, how it can change over time, and why understanding the “why” matters for healing.

You’ll also learn what each motive reveals about the work that needs to be done for recovery and how to protect your relationship from future harm. Whether you’re the betrayed or the unfaithful partner, this conversation offers clarity, direction, and hope.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
02:30 Alarm Affair
04:25 Exit Affair
06:00 Quest Affair
08:00 Revenge Affair
09:15 Impulse Affai
10:30 Habit Affair
11:55 Questions to Ask Yourself

LINKS & EXTRAS

Download: 6 Motives Guide (PDF)

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A song of loss, longing, and lingering hope.

In this episode, Tim Tedder and guest Betsy Prentice discuss The Haunting of My Heart—a song written from the perspective of a woman left behind after betrayal. They explore how music gives voice to heartbreak, memory, and the slow return of light after love is lost.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
03:05 Tim and Betsy talk about the song’s message of abandonment, loneliness, and hope
27:20 The complete song: Haunting of My Heart

LINKS and EXTRAS

Sign up for our Weekly Newsletter for encouragement and information about recommendations and new resources for affair healing, relationship growth, and personal change. https://www.affairhealing.com/newsletter

Need personal help? Schedule a Session with one of our coaches. https://www.affairhealing.com/infidelity-recovery-coaching

Download an MP3 file of the whole song on the episode page: https://www.affairhealing.com/podcasts/013

OUR GUEST: BETSY PRENTICE

After over a decade in public health, Betsy earned a Master’s Degree in Marriage and Family Therapy. Her background gives her a unique lens to view mental health and relationship issues within broader family, community, and policy systems.

Betsy has worked with couples facing infidelity, distress, and other relationship challenges, as well as families, teens, and adults navigating difficult seasons. She brings both professional and personal experience to each session, creating a welcoming space for healing.

LYRICS: HAUNTING OF MY HEART
© 2025 Tim Tedder

A shadow in the moonlight, a spirit in the dawn
The ghost of love still lingers, but all of you is gone

Your footsteps echo softly when I walk up the stairs
I feel the warm beside me when you're not really there
Your touch is just a phantom passing through my skin
Memories of embraces I will never feel again

I call to the quiet, I whisper your name
But silence won't answer, it's always the same

Chorus:
You’re the phantom of my soul, haunting of my heart,
A spirit of the promises that have been torn apart
You were once the angel, embraced me in your wings
Here's how the breakers fall
Here's how the broken sing

Alone at the table, remembering the day
You sat down beside me, asked if I would stay
But now your chair is empty, no questions anymore
I'll put away my dishes
I'll lock up all the doors

(Chorus)

One day the laughter filled up this room
One day the silence seeped through the gloom
One day the love will light up again
The hurt will be over, the haunting will end

(Chorus)

Someday the love will light up again
This hurt will be over, this haunting will end
This haunting will end

An abandoned wife talks about her experience and how she’s grown beyond the betrayal. Tim Tedder and Jennifer Gingras conclude their discussion of the book, Runaway Husbands.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
02:10 Elisa Talks about Her Abandonment
11:10 Tim and Jennifer talk more about the book
19:35 More from Elisa

LINKS

Book Review: Runaway Husbands https://www.affairhealing.com/blog/runaway-husbands

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Coaching with Jennifer https://www.affairhealing.com/jennifer-gingras-coaching

Coaching with Tim https://www.affairhealing.com/tim-tedder-coaching

Discussing the book, Runaway Husbands, and its message to wives who have been unexpectedly abandoned, Tim Tedder and Jennifer Gingras give their input based on their experiences as affair recovery counselors and coaches.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
03:00 Overview of the book, Runaway Husbands
10:30 Hallmarks of Wife Abandonment Syndrome

LINKS

Book Review: Runaway Husbands https://www.affairhealing.com/blog/runaway-husbands

Coaching with Jennifer https://www.affairhealing.com/jennifer-gingras-coaching

Coaching with Tim https://www.affairhealing.com/tim-tedder-coaching

Explore the compromising choices and justifications that lead to infidelity. This episode examines two affairs to understand how this happens in real-life experiences, then considers what can be done when crossing lines affects your marriage.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
01:45 Compromises in Narnia
04:20 Episode Overview
5:00 Amanda’s Story
11:35 Tim’s Story
17:50 Applications and Recommendations

LINKS AND EXTRAS

Download: Identifying Your Steps Toward Infidelity https://www.affairhealing.com/blog/compromising-choices

Download: Emotional Affair Self-Assessment https://www.affairhealing.com/blog/emotional-affair-self-assessment

The book Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me is recommended on this page: https://www.affairhealing.com/more-books

Information on personal coaching: https://www.affairhealing.com/infidelity-recovery-coaching

The blinding pull of an affair and self-deception are explored as Tim Tedder and Suzanne Jahnke discuss "Lovely Fruit," a song Tim wrote to his former self.

This episode offers more than just a conversation about music—it’s a personal reflection on brokenness and change. Whether you’ve experienced betrayal, made your own mistakes, or are simply interested in the process of learning from failure, you’ll find this discussion honest, insightful, and relatable.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
01:55 Conversation about the song
19:55 Lovey Fruit (full song)

LOVELY FRUIT
©2024 Tim Tedder

I'm gonna tell you somethin'
Your pitchman is a liar
This path that you are walkin'
Will take you through the fire

I know it feels like heaven
That's what the promos say
I bought the pitch myself once
Watched promise slip away

This is the best you've ever had
Your old life is a joke
You finally won the big prize
Oops - the lottery's broke

Chorus:
Pick from the tree
Bite its lovely fruit
(let the juice flow down)
Muddy the soil
Poison the root
Pick from the tree
Bite its lovely fruit
(feel the juice run down)
Muddy the soil
Poison the root

You think you're gonna make it
When others didn't last
They may have missed the boarding
Your ticket is first-class

Sit back, enjoy the ride
Sip down another gin
Dream of where you're going
Forget where you have been

This is the best you've ever had
Your old life is a joke (tell yourself)
You finally won the big prize
Oops - the lottery's broke

(Chorus)

I know you're not listening
Nobody knows like you

I hope you wake up soon enough
I hope your bridge won't burn
You can go the hard way
Or take a different turn

(Chorus)

I know you're not listening
Nobody knows like you

LINKS & EXTRAS

Find out more about Suzanne Janke and her practice on her website, suzannejanke.com.

Need personal help? Set up a video session with Tim Tedder: https://www.affairhealing.com/tim-tedder-coaching

Download the Lovely Fruit song (mp3 audio file) on the episode webpage: https://www.affairhealing.com/podcasts/09

Learn about limerence, that “falling in love” feeling, from neuroscientist Dr. Tom Bellany in this candid conversation with therapists Tim Tedder and Sharon Barbour.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
01:35 What is limerence?
06:20 Limerence and Love
10:00 What's going on in the brain?
15:10 What triggers limerence?
19:27 Infidelity and Limerence
23:10 Leaving Limerence
32:24 Are some people more prone to limerence?
33:30 Final Thoughts

LINKS & EXTRAS

Dr Tom Bellamy’s website: https://livingwithlimerence.com

Information about the book, Smitten: https://livingwithlimerence.com/lwl-book/

Related article - The Neuroscience of Affair Fog (by Dr Bellamy): https://www.affairhealing.com/affair-recovery-articles/neuroscience-of-affair-fog

Information on personal coaching: https://www.affairhealing.com/infidelity-recovery-coaching

An honest consideration of the indecision between choosing your spouse or your affair partner, based on the personal experience and professional work of Tim Tedder, LMHC.

EPISODE NOTES

00:00 Introduction
02:05 A Story of Indecision
05:45 The Damage of Indecision
07:35 What Keeps You Stuck?
11:30 What I Wish I’d Known
12:40 Questions to Ask Yourself
14:40 Making Space to Consider
16:05 Regret and Opportunity

LINKS & EXTRAS

Need personal help? Set up a video session with Tim: https://www.affairhealing.com/tim-tedder-coaching

Download: Reclaiming a Marriage Perspective (exercise for Involved Partnters): https://www.affairhealing.com/blog/reclaim-perspective

Tim’s full affair story: https://www.affairhealing.com/affair-stories/tim-affair-story

Article: Is It Affair Fog or Real Love? https://www.affairhealing.com/affair-recovery-articles/affair-fog-or-real-love

Article: Making Change that Lasts (motivated by who you will BE) https://www.affairhealing.com/affair-recovery-articles/change-that-lasts