This week, Chris and I dive deep into a question we've been getting a lot since our town hall event with Sarah Swain, Rebecca Matthews, and Elisa Kitz (which had almost 2,000 registrants!): Why are permanent tax shelters considered an asset class?
I'll be honest—this was a concept that completely confused me until about 4-5 years ago. I grew up being taught that insurance is an expense, never an investment. But understanding how certain life insurance policies can provide liquidity, tax advantages, and long-term value has been game-changing for our family—both personally and professionally.
In this episode, we break down:
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The difference between whole life and universal life insurance
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Why insurance should be the foundation of your financial house (not just the pretty stuff on top)
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How permanent policies build cash value you can borrow from tax-free
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Why getting insured young matters more than you think
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The connection between your health records and insurance premiums
This might feel like a big topic to grasp, but stick with us. We're here to help you understand what you weren't taught growing up.
Timestamps & Chapters
[2:53 - 4:33] Why This Topic Matters Now
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Questions coming in about permanent tax shelters as an asset class
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How life insurance can offer protection AND build long-term value
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Jenn's journey from seeing insurance as an expense to understanding it as an investment
[4:33 - 7:00] What Are Permanent Tax Shelters?
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Two types: Whole life and universal life insurance
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How they differ from term insurance (which is like "rent")
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Why these policies are structured differently for every person
[7:00 - 10:20] Whole Life vs. Universal Life
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Whole life: Invested through the insurance company, pays dividends, safer/more conservative
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Universal life: Invested through markets, higher growth potential
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Companies we work with have been paying dividends for over 100 years
[10:20 - 13:20] The Trust Factor
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Why people are hesitant to invest (lack of education, past bad experiences)
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Importance of transparency: where money goes, how returns work, paperwork to back it up
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Finding advisors who customize to YOUR needs, not just sell hot products
[13:20 - 17:00] The Foundation Analogy
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Chris's building background: insurance is like the foundation of a house
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TFSAs, RRSPs, FHSAs are the "pretty stuff" on top
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If the foundation isn't solid, everything collapses when markets slip
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Different types of insurance: life, critical illness, disability
[17:00 - 20:20] Why We Have Different Policies
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Individual needs vs. family goals
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Whole life for lending money back to yourself
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Universal life for stronger growth through market investments
[20:20 - 23:40] Term vs. Permanent Insurance Explained
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Term insurance: Pay for protection for 10, 20, 30 years—when it expires, you're done (or renew at a much higher rate)
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Example: $75/month at age 30 becomes $500/month at age 65
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Permanent insurance: Pay for a set period (often ~20 years), then you're covered for life
[23:40 - 26:40] Health & Insurance Qualification
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Medical Insurance Bureau (MIB) has access to ALL your medical records
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Even minor things (like getting imaging for headaches) can flag you and increase premiums
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Jenn's story: Great health rating, lower premium
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Chris's story: One seizure from paintball at 21 flagged him for years
[26:40 - 30:00] The Integrity Factor
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Insurance companies will test for things like nicotine in your hair if you claim to be a non-smoker
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Lying on applications can void your entire policy
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Smokers can requalify as non-smokers after 12 months nicotine-free and cut premiums in half
[30:00 - 35:20] Why We're Talking About This
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Jenn's perspective: Health and wealth are connected
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Financial stress impacts health; lack of finances prevents getting health support
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The gap in what we weren't taught as adults, parents, business owners
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Teaching preparedness so people know what questions to ask
[35:20 - 40:00] How Permanent Policies Build Cash Value
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Example: $100/month → $25 to insurance, $75 to investment
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Money grows tax-free inside the policy
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You can borrow from it with minimal or zero tax (depending on timing)
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Compare to RRSPs: 100% taxed at withdrawal at your marginal rate
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Insurance companies are great at saving from taxation; investment companies are great at making money—permanent policies combine both
[40:00 - 43:00] The Self-Lending Strategy
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Build cash value you can borrow from tax-free or with greatly reduced tax
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Use for home repairs, helping kids, investments, etc.
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You can put in $300-500/month—insurance still only costs $25, rest goes to your investment fund
[43:00 - 46:00] Inflation & Long-Term Planning
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Average Canadian couple needs $2.5-3 million to retire comfortably
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Inflation designed to be ~2.5% annually
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Example: Bag of milk was $2-3 twenty years ago, now $6-9, will be $20 in the future
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If you're only making 2.5% interest, you're just keeping up with buying power—not growing wealth
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Importance of reviewing statements together as a couple (even when uncomfortable)
Key Highlights & Takeaways
✅ Insurance as Foundation, Not Expense: Permanent life insurance should be viewed as the foundation of your financial house—not a bill, but an investment that protects everything else you build on top.
✅ Two Types of Permanent Policies:
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Whole Life: Conservative, dividend-based, great for self-lending
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Universal Life: Market-invested, higher growth potential
✅ Tax Advantages: Money grows tax-free inside permanent policies, and you can borrow from your cash value with minimal or zero tax (unlike RRSPs, which are 100% taxed at withdrawal).
✅ Get Insured Young: Health changes, medical records, and age all impact premiums. The younger and healthier you are when you get insured, the better your rates—and they're locked in for life.
✅ The MIB Knows Everything: The Medical Insurance Bureau has access to all your medical records. Even minor health events (like imaging for headaches) can flag you and increase premiums.
✅ Inflation is Real: The average Canadian couple will need $2.5-3 million to retire comfortably. If your money is only growing at 2.5%, you're just keeping up with inflation—not building wealth.
✅ Self-Lending Strategy: Permanent policies allow you to build a "personal bank" you can borrow from for major expenses, investments, or helping family—without traditional loan approval processes.
✅ Transparency Matters: Any advisor should be able to explain exactly where your money is going, how returns work, and provide full paperwork. If they can't, walk away.
✅ Health & Wealth Are Connected: Financial stress impacts your health, and lack of finances prevents you from getting the health support you need. They're not separate—they're intertwined.
Let's dive in!
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